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    newton saber
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    Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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      Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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      newton.saber wrote:

      I feel a serious paradox coming on

      You're cheating, we can't downvote in the lounge. :)

      Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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        newton.saber wrote:

        I feel a serious paradox coming on

        You're cheating, we can't downvote in the lounge. :)

        Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

        You're cheating, we can't downvote in the lounge.

        I didn't know that. From now on I'm going to post all my articles to The Lounge.

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          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

          You're cheating, we can't downvote in the lounge.

          I didn't know that. From now on I'm going to post all my articles to The Lounge.

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          So you're stealing my MO?

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            Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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            Richard Andrew x64
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            You're so right. And no good deed goes unpunished.

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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              Not just here. The whole world works like that.

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                Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                Mike Hankey
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                What would be the fun of humiliating someone that does something right?

                VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright

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                  What would be the fun of humiliating someone that does something right?

                  VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright

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                  newton saber
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                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  What would be the fun of humiliating someone that does something right?

                  That's funny. Oh wait you are joking right? :)

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                    Not just here. The whole world works like that.

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                    newton saber
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                    Upvote. So true. Let's overcome it.

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                      Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      Not to be contrary, but this hasn't been the case for me. I only have two articles here. The first was originally written in 2003, and I updated it a year ago. I occasionally get comments on it, even though it's old and no longer of central interest. The second article, which has a much narrower focus, hasn't received as many comments, but that's to be expected. I don't generally use someone's code directly from an article. I will use it to learn how to do what I need. In either case, if I like someone's article or use their code, I make a point of commenting and thanking them. Even from my limited experience as an author here at CP, I know how much those comments mean. I don't trash articles, unless they are obvious spam; in that case, I nuke'em 'til they glow.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Not to be contrary, but this hasn't been the case for me. I only have two articles here. The first was originally written in 2003, and I updated it a year ago. I occasionally get comments on it, even though it's old and no longer of central interest. The second article, which has a much narrower focus, hasn't received as many comments, but that's to be expected. I don't generally use someone's code directly from an article. I will use it to learn how to do what I need. In either case, if I like someone's article or use their code, I make a point of commenting and thanking them. Even from my limited experience as an author here at CP, I know how much those comments mean. I don't trash articles, unless they are obvious spam; in that case, I nuke'em 'til they glow.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        newton saber
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                        Upvote for positivity. Seems quite inhuman though. :)

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                          Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                          newton saber
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                          And I should add this was just a thought that crossed my mind and not directed toward CP. I actually find CP community to be quite positive and helpful. My favorite online community.

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                            Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                            That's as it should be. There are already too many comments of "my 5", "great job", etc. with no real content.

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                              Mike Hankey wrote:

                              What would be the fun of humiliating someone that does something right?

                              That's funny. Oh wait you are joking right? :)

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                              Yes of course I'm kidding. I have articles on CP that I get positive and negative feedback after many years, but on my site where I have a lot of giveaway code and on Visual and Atmel Gallery Gallery I very rarely get any feedback so I guess it depends on the audience your addressing? Don't know what to tell you there!

                              VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright

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                                Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                                Interesting point, and one that made me ask if this is human nature or condition? Even kids at 2 and 3 pick on each other and seem to find joy in the shortcomings of others. Hmmm.... Add the anonymity of the web and people can be pretty darn ugly. It would be interesting to see the ratio of upvotes to downvotes in different forums. I have to admit that I am more likely to comment on something I disagree with, but I haven't found much use for downvoting.

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  Upvote for positivity. Seems quite inhuman though. :)

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                                  You haven't met my mother. The lady is an absolute bear about good manners. 'Please' and 'thank you' were the order of the day when I was growing up. As a middle-aged professional in a world that seems to turn ever more callous and self-interested, expressing my appreciation for someone else's hard work should be a reflex. I'm ashamed when it isn't. As far as the positivity goes, CP goes through cycles where the barbarian hordes run loose and bad behavior reigns. I've been guilty of it in the past. This is my favorite place on the web, so I'd rather not slip on my own spilled vitriol.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                                    I have have one article/blog post that gets almost daily downloads of the source but very few comments. I would like to think that if we have few comments then we have been very clear on the content of the article and left no or few questions unanswered. After reading articles for the last... umm how many years have I been here now. Any way the ones that get the most comments are the ones where people want to do more with the source than what was originally intended or have a problem with what it does when it runs, if they can get it to run. Or the upvotes with comments.

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                                      That's as it should be. There are already too many comments of "my 5", "great job", etc. with no real content.

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                                      newton saber
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                                      I agree with you here too, because you can't really learn anything from the short comments that five you either. Although, I do like the 5s.

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                                        I have have one article/blog post that gets almost daily downloads of the source but very few comments. I would like to think that if we have few comments then we have been very clear on the content of the article and left no or few questions unanswered. After reading articles for the last... umm how many years have I been here now. Any way the ones that get the most comments are the ones where people want to do more with the source than what was originally intended or have a problem with what it does when it runs, if they can get it to run. Or the upvotes with comments.

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                                        newton saber
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                                        Thanks for chiming in on this thread. Tried out your Registry program on Windows 7, ran as admin and it worked great. That's a cool little utility that could be really helpful.

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                                          Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                                          Paul M Watt
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                                          I got used to this model a long time ago. Primarily when working with software that is delivered directly to the customer. We never hear the kudos or anything positive come our way, even if we created something custom for the customer. You can be for damn sure you'll know when it's broken. No news is good news. Unfortunately that doesn't provide the votes and praise in the comments section of articles here. It's always good to get the feedback both positive and negative.

                                          To know and not do, is not yet to know

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