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  • N newton saber

    Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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    Paulo Zemek
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    I was about to ignore this comment simply because I agree with you... So, I upvoted your message and I am posting this to let you know.

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    • M Mike Hankey

      What would be the fun of humiliating someone that does something right?

      VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright

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      Joezer BH
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      [Optional] See: Paradoxical effects of praise and criticism: social, dimensional and temporal comparisons.[^]

      -- If money is your hope for independence, you cannot reach it. Being loved gives you strength, while loving gives you courage.

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      • N newton saber

        Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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        Mark_Wallace
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        To paraphrase my granny: If you can't say something nice, STFU". I'm not sure that there's a comparable saw in the US -- denigrating others seems to be more acceptable, there.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • N newton saber

          Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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          ExcellentOrg
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          Blame it on Brits. They invented Tall Poppy Syndrome!!

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          • N newton saber

            Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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            descenterace
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            "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it." I'd guess it's because something done right has been done, finished, completed, works fine, not interesting any more. Something which is wrong needs fixing.

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            • G Gary R Wheeler

              You haven't met my mother. The lady is an absolute bear about good manners. 'Please' and 'thank you' were the order of the day when I was growing up. As a middle-aged professional in a world that seems to turn ever more callous and self-interested, expressing my appreciation for someone else's hard work should be a reflex. I'm ashamed when it isn't. As far as the positivity goes, CP goes through cycles where the barbarian hordes run loose and bad behavior reigns. I've been guilty of it in the past. This is my favorite place on the web, so I'd rather not slip on my own spilled vitriol.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              Today, you are my hero, sir. I've used my first ever post on CP to tell you this.

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              • N newton saber

                Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                newton.saber wrote:

                So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge

                I tend to read the article and often ignore the comments. I figure most CP authors are savvy enough that they address the comments that have been made in the article long before I get there. I come here to learn from others that know more than I do. I figure an author has done their best on an article, so if misspelled words, poor grammar and non-compiling code is what their article contains, then that's probably the best they can do and there might not be much I can learn from them.

                We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                • N newton saber

                  Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                  RafagaX
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                  Reading 10,000 thank yous, greats and thnks for the codez, it's not very helpful at all, so i avoid such comments and better upvote the article to reflect i like it or that was really helpful.

                  CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                  • D d shapiro

                    Today, you are my hero, sir. I've used my first ever post on CP to tell you this.

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    :-\ Welcome to CP :).

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      :-\ Welcome to CP :).

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      d shapiro
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                      Oh, thank you. :) I've been here a while, I just keep to myself generally.

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                      • N newton saber

                        Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                        CJLopez
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                        Tetris taught me this. Right disappear while wrongs pile up!

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                        • N newton saber

                          Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                          jschell
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                          newton.saber wrote:

                          However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know.

                          Pretty standard behavior however. People are more likely to complain about anything than they are to compliment.

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                          • N newton saber

                            Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                            KP Lee
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                            newton.saber wrote:

                            Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly...

                            I won't EVER hold that against someone posting an article in Code Project. Their formatting tool ROYALLY SUCKS! Spent hours fighting the tool. Including throwing out the whole ball of wax and starting from scratch. I gave up in disgust. I was able to publish an article years ago, it was a pretty poor tool then, but you could get it to somewhat work OK. Either they've designed it to be worse, or I've gotten better at screwing it up. To criticize seems to be a human condition, especially when the "something" written is just wrong. There seems to be an unending supply of THAT on the web. Another web blog site had an article about the bubble sort. I went Ugh, but said to myself "It's a beginning author rehashing an inefficient process, that has been around forever. Leave the poor sap alone, doesn't have the background to know how bad the process is." Then I read a comment, praising the routine, how easy it was to understand and how efficient it was. That, I couldn't leave alone. I wrote a binary sort routine, test data, explained how inefficient the bubble sort was. (Every time you double the number being sorted, you quadruple the time it takes to sort.) I stopped testing the bubble sort at 200000 records because it was consistently quadrupling (or more) the time for double the ints in the array and 200K took 2 minutes 20 seconds to sort. The binary sort was still sorting in sub second times. I stopped it with 150 million ints because I didn't have the memory for 200 million and it sorted 150M in 49+ seconds. The built-in sort was consistently more than 1.5 times faster than my routine (29+ seconds for 150M). Obviously using the same method for sorting, but with better register control.

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                              newton.saber wrote:

                              However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know.

                              Pretty standard behavior however. People are more likely to complain about anything than they are to compliment.

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                              I've been ignoring you all, because you've all been making good comments. :-D

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                              • P patbob

                                newton.saber wrote:

                                So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge

                                I tend to read the article and often ignore the comments. I figure most CP authors are savvy enough that they address the comments that have been made in the article long before I get there. I come here to learn from others that know more than I do. I figure an author has done their best on an article, so if misspelled words, poor grammar and non-compiling code is what their article contains, then that's probably the best they can do and there might not be much I can learn from them.

                                We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                KP Lee
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                                patbob wrote:

                                I figure an author has done their best on an article, so if misspelled words, poor grammar and non-compiling code is what their article contains, then that's probably the best they can do and there might not be much I can learn from them

                                Well, I'll agree with you on the "non-compiling code" part, but a huge segment of the world comes from an area where English isn't the first language. I learned French as a second language in high school. I might attempt to read something written in French, but I wouldn't dare to write a word in it on a board. It takes a kind of courage to attempt something you know you aren't good at, that's something to admire. And what was written has the possibility to show me something I didn't know. I try to go beyond the grammer to see if they have something to teach me. As long as the article is technically competent, that's great, even if they don't teach me a thing. Sounds like this particular article would also have not taught me anything, so if I'd read it, I'd have to chalk it up as a waste of time. (A nitch which also holds the best written article when that article doesn't add anything to my knowledge.) I'd guess you could add this as an example of how not to write an article. :-D

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                                • M Mark_Wallace

                                  To paraphrase my granny: If you can't say something nice, STFU". I'm not sure that there's a comparable saw in the US -- denigrating others seems to be more acceptable, there.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  KP Lee
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                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  To paraphrase my granny: If you can't say something nice, STFU".

                                  I never saw any of my grandparents, but I did have a nephew three months before I was born. :-D You would have to paraphrase what you just said to get the common saw used in the US, but at least 50 years ago it was a common saw here in the states too. We yanks are taught to be rebellious, it's part of our heritage to be proud of. So, of course most kids don't listen to their parents. Then we get mad at them for following their heritage. We make total sense over here, right?

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                                  • N newton saber

                                    Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                                    Moreno Airoldi
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                                    I think you put the finger on a subject on which from time to time I find myself wondering. I'm lucky enough to seldom draw criticism, but I often see the kind of behaviour you describe, in many different aspects of everyday life. It seems to me that aggressive people, who therefore will heavily complain for a bad article for example, are simply following the same behavioural pattern as children. We all know children can often be rather nasty to each other, and that the nastier children are those with some real family problem or similar. But getting down to the root, isn't it all just lack of self esteem? People who are sure of themselves, REALLY sure sown deep inside, and live a happy life don't feel the need to rain shame on others! On the other hand, if you're not happy with your life or have low self esteem, you may end up being aggressive as a kind of subconscious form of preemptive defense. Just my 2 (Euro)cents. :-)

                                    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but not in practice. - Anonymous A computer is a stupid machine with the ability to do incredibly smart things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match. - B. Bryson

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                                    • N newton saber

                                      Just read an article here at CodeProject (I shan't mention which) that was formatted poorly, had code samples that don't compile and wasn't well written, but it received numerous comments. Of course, they were mostly negative. It struck me afterward that if you do something right (write a terrific article), we may just download your code and ignore you. However, if you do something wrong (write a poor article) we are going to let you know. So, doing something wrong actually allows you to build more community (though it is constructed upon negativity) than doing something right. Ah, the human condition. It's a challenge. :) Do you find my topic interesting or even well thought out? You probably won't comment. However, if you eschew my point you will comment heavily. :-D Am I funny yet? I guess you can prove me wrong, easily, by being positive. I just played you, my friend. :cool: But, I'm serious. I feel a serious paradox coming on. :laugh:

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                                      Chad3F
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                                      had code samples that don't compile

                                      This isn't really any different than half the [printed] technical books out there that people paid for.

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