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Which free tool would you recommend? (file backups/copies) ALREADY SOLVED THANK YOU ALL!

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  • J Joan M

    So if the files are not newer it is not recopying them? That sounds good. :thumbsup: I've seen that it seems that robocopy doesn't handle the file permissions in a good way if you are using the /MIR option. Anyway that is not important to me as it's for the computer at home.

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    Gary R Wheeler
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    Nope. It's pretty smart about it. I use it on my development machine and both of my build servers. The primary mirrors itself to the secondary, and the secondary mirrors critical data to an external hard drive. Even though we're talking about several terabytes of data, most of it is static. The original copy operations took a long time when I was setting this up (a couple of days, actually), but the automated nightly operation usually takes less than an hour and only has to copy/delete a few gigabytes.

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    • J Joan M

      Looks good! I've read in the Internet that this software is leaving small files around... is that right? in case of being right, are they placed in one specific folder or in all the folders that are being created? have you noticed that? Is that right? If that would be right probably I would go for the Robocopy option as I don't mind permissions (home computer) and it seems to simply copy the files. I would prefer using the tool you are suggesting as it looks really good and moreover I could put more sources and destinations at once which would allow me to execute the "backup" operation once and receive all the results at the end... With robocopy I would need to scroll up along all the copied files to see what happened or execute the backup in different stages... :~

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      I'm not sure - I don't routinely trawl through my friends image files, you never know what you might find X| - and I don't use it myself (I don't want files deleted automatically, so I use NTI Shadow to keep multiple copies). I know it keeps an "eye" on files (and "tags" them so it can tell if it was there but was deleted and so forth) but I don't know if this is on a folder basis or if it uses a single db file in the root. Sorry!

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        I'm not sure - I don't routinely trawl through my friends image files, you never know what you might find X| - and I don't use it myself (I don't want files deleted automatically, so I use NTI Shadow to keep multiple copies). I know it keeps an "eye" on files (and "tags" them so it can tell if it was there but was deleted and so forth) but I don't know if this is on a folder basis or if it uses a single db file in the root. Sorry!

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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        you never know what you might find X|

        Ways of blacklisting blackmailing friends... :rolleyes:

        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Sorry

        Not in any way, I'll try it by myself, thank you! :thumbsup:

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        • J Joan M

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          you never know what you might find X|

          Ways of blacklisting blackmailing friends... :rolleyes:

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          Sorry

          Not in any way, I'll try it by myself, thank you! :thumbsup:

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          With some of my friends, blackmail is more likely than blacklist! :laugh:

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          • G Gary R Wheeler

            Nope. It's pretty smart about it. I use it on my development machine and both of my build servers. The primary mirrors itself to the secondary, and the secondary mirrors critical data to an external hard drive. Even though we're talking about several terabytes of data, most of it is static. The original copy operations took a long time when I was setting this up (a couple of days, actually), but the automated nightly operation usually takes less than an hour and only has to copy/delete a few gigabytes.

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            Joan M
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            Yes it is Smart... it Works wonderfully. I've ended up with /MIR /XJ. XJ seems to exclude junctions... Important if you are copying My music, My documents and so... it seesm those folders have DIRECTORIES and JUNCTIONS... and the latest make the copy operation to fail. Thank you for your hint! :thumbsup:

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              With some of my friends, blackmail is more likely than blacklist! :laugh:

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              Who has spoken of blacklisting? :rolleyes:

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              • J Joan M

                Who has spoken of blacklisting? :rolleyes:

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                :laugh: We need an :InnocentWhistleSmiley: ...

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                • J Joan M

                  Yes it is Smart... it Works wonderfully. I've ended up with /MIR /XJ. XJ seems to exclude junctions... Important if you are copying My music, My documents and so... it seesm those folders have DIRECTORIES and JUNCTIONS... and the latest make the copy operation to fail. Thank you for your hint! :thumbsup:

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                  Forogar
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                  I have been using Robocopy for years and really have had no trouble with it. I run it from a scheduled batch file with a series of entries for each drive/directory combination I need. I back up 7x2TB drives to another 7x2TB drives each night using /MIR /XO to only copy updated files - sometimes it only takes a few minutes. I hadn't thought of using /XJ, it might save me some space and time on one of the backups.

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                  • J Joan M

                    Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

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                    MicrodroidITS
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                    Terracopy.

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                    • J Joan M

                      Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                      [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                      Rutvik Dave
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                      I have used Comodo Backup[^] in the past, and it worked just fine. It has very nice feature set.

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                      • J Joan M

                        Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                        [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        I wrote this[^] more than 10 years ago - it's pretty basic (no scheduling :( ) but may be of help in a pinch.  A full-feature one is in the works, but it will be a few months before it's available. /ravi

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                        • J Joan M

                          Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                          [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                          Valery Possoz
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                          I gave up with external drives for backup. I use http://www.drobox.com[^] and I'm very happy with it. I had a couple of crashes recently and got all my data back very easily. Plus I can access my documents from anywhere. :)

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                            I gave up with external drives for backup. I use http://www.drobox.com[^] and I'm very happy with it. I had a couple of crashes recently and got all my data back very easily. Plus I can access my documents from anywhere. :)

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                            Steve Mayfield
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                            do you mean dropbox.com?

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                              do you mean dropbox.com?

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                              For a moment I thought he meant drobo.com[^]. /ravi

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                              • J Joan M

                                Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                I've been using Cobian Back-up[^] for donkeys' yonks, because it's configuration is so easy and logical.

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                                • J Joan M

                                  Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                  [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                  selvan1709
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                                  Syncback free is the perfect tool for this. Using this on multiple family/ friends computers for years. http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html[^]

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                                  • J Joan M

                                    Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                    [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                    Member 9167057
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                                    robocopy with the /mir switch.

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                                    • J Joan M

                                      Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                      [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                      A very old one I've used in the past: Karen's Replicator[^] For something written in VB6 it doesn't seem to work badly at all. Reasonably fast, not too resource hungry and once you've set it up - there's no user interruptions. Not saying it's "better" than any of the others, it probably isn't. But AFAICT it provides all needed functionality in a way that even a non-PC-litterate could get something going.

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                                        c#, system.IO, Windows service SMACK ouch. I use windows backup but it is not what you are looking for. I don't know of any backup system that will remove deleted files from the repository. Sort of defeats the purpose of backup me thinks!

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                                        Joan M
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                                        I don't plan to automate it... so I would only make the backup once needed (which is each time I add some pictures to the HDD). Using Robocopy (which I've already tried) it's a breeze and really fast so I've chosen that option. Thank you! :thumbsup:

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                                          FreeFileSync http://sourceforge.net/projects/freefilesync/[^] is very good. Can be used to sync two folders, or to mirror one folder to another. It's similar to SyncToy mentioned by others, but has the advantage that it uses Volume Shadow Copy to copy files in use, which SyncToy does not (I believe). The "preview" window allows you to see what files will be copied and make changes if needed. Or you can run it in batch mode. One disadvantage of FreeFileSync is that it uses the SourceForge installer, so during install you have to look for and turn off the option to install some other piece of crap-ware.

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                                          Joan M
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                                          Looks nice, I've gone with Robocopy, it works, shows the amount of errors at the end and it's blazingly fast. Enough for my needs. But thank you, I'll keep an eye to it, it seems nice and sometimes you need a GUI to work with something as the user is not tech-savy. :thumbsup:

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