TWC v CBS
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You know what REALLY sucks is the way CBS is handling it. I don't really feel like buying cable TV at all. CBS is selectively blocking TWC Internet customers from being able to access some shows on their video-on-demand website, replacing them with a large 'slam page' and that's all you get to see.
What is TWC ? I have no Sattilite or cable and no TV antea so can only watch what is shown over the internet. I have no problem watching CBS.com shows. As long as the episode is available without pay per view. So you are saying they are blocking cutomers from those IP addresses assigned for TWC ? Or do you have to log into something to watch what ever it is ?
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What is TWC ? I have no Sattilite or cable and no TV antea so can only watch what is shown over the internet. I have no problem watching CBS.com shows. As long as the episode is available without pay per view. So you are saying they are blocking cutomers from those IP addresses assigned for TWC ? Or do you have to log into something to watch what ever it is ?
ledtech3 wrote:
What is TWC ?
Time Warner Cable. They are currently in a contract dispute with CBS.
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What is TWC ? I have no Sattilite or cable and no TV antea so can only watch what is shown over the internet. I have no problem watching CBS.com shows. As long as the episode is available without pay per view. So you are saying they are blocking cutomers from those IP addresses assigned for TWC ? Or do you have to log into something to watch what ever it is ?
TWC = Time Warner Cable. They provide cable Internet, cable television, and VOIP phone service. I only have their Internet service. I do not have cable television, satellite or even an antenna, so we're in the same situation for watching a TV show. If you go to CBS.com from a computer hooked up to Time Warner's Internet service, you get a different experience than anyone else coming from any other ISP. CBS.com simply won't let you watch certain shows based solely upon your ISP, all because the CBS TV network has a dispute with Time Warner Cable TV. It's probably an IP-based block. There is no login, just cbs.com the same way anyone else would use it.
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TWC = Time Warner Cable. They provide cable Internet, cable television, and VOIP phone service. I only have their Internet service. I do not have cable television, satellite or even an antenna, so we're in the same situation for watching a TV show. If you go to CBS.com from a computer hooked up to Time Warner's Internet service, you get a different experience than anyone else coming from any other ISP. CBS.com simply won't let you watch certain shows based solely upon your ISP, all because the CBS TV network has a dispute with Time Warner Cable TV. It's probably an IP-based block. There is no login, just cbs.com the same way anyone else would use it.
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Not had CBS for a while now and can't say I've missed it. No idea whose fault all this is - TWC for not wanting to pay for it or CBS for asking too much. However, in an effort to placate the revolting masses TWC have just sent me a voucher for a free on-demand movie. If they sent this to all of their customers and everyone took them up they'd be better off paying what CBS wants with the fees they'd lose (I think they charge $15 for films tho not sure)! They also offered everyone a free antenna to watch CBS. To be honest, I really don't care if they never get CBS back but I will watch a free film. Perhaps I should rethink the plan and just get internet and subscribe to Hulu - be cheaper, that's for sure.
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mark merrens wrote:
Perhaps I should rethink the plan and just get internet and subscribe to Hulu - be cheaper, that's for sure.
It was my understanding that Hulu is based on your TV package as well, (i.e. prove you are getting CBS through a provider and they grant it... seems you are screwed either way)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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mark merrens wrote:
Perhaps I should rethink the plan and just get internet and subscribe to Hulu - be cheaper, that's for sure.
It was my understanding that Hulu is based on your TV package as well, (i.e. prove you are getting CBS through a provider and they grant it... seems you are screwed either way)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Oh, interesting. I was going to give up cable and simply keeping the internet connection though I had a look and I wouldn't really save any money. Damned if you do, etc.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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TWC = Time Warner Cable. They provide cable Internet, cable television, and VOIP phone service. I only have their Internet service. I do not have cable television, satellite or even an antenna, so we're in the same situation for watching a TV show. If you go to CBS.com from a computer hooked up to Time Warner's Internet service, you get a different experience than anyone else coming from any other ISP. CBS.com simply won't let you watch certain shows based solely upon your ISP, all because the CBS TV network has a dispute with Time Warner Cable TV. It's probably an IP-based block. There is no login, just cbs.com the same way anyone else would use it.
I'm surprised that no bottom feeder has tried a class action suit against a tv network for blocking internet only customers due to a dispute over cable tv service.
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mark merrens wrote:
Perhaps I should rethink the plan and just get internet and subscribe to Hulu - be cheaper, that's for sure.
It was my understanding that Hulu is based on your TV package as well, (i.e. prove you are getting CBS through a provider and they grant it... seems you are screwed either way)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
It would most likely be cheaper in the long run to just get a TV antenna and point it in the right direction and stop paying each month for those. I used to have one hanging from the ceiling in an apratment I was living in several years ago. I even lived right near to the cable company and still had a poor siginal from them.Thus the antenna
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Oh, interesting. I was going to give up cable and simply keeping the internet connection though I had a look and I wouldn't really save any money. Damned if you do, etc.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
mark merrens wrote:
Oh, interesting. I was going to give up cable and simply keeping the internet connection though I had a look and I wouldn't really save any money. Damned if you do, etc.
Netflix isn't too bad (streaming). I have been with out cable for a while now and I will stay this way. It is obviously so much cheaper and I simply changed my viewing habits. Netflix gets a lot of the prime TV shows but they get them about a season later (new season airing usually results in last season streamable). For $8 a month its an awesome deal. I think RedBox started a similar program. Things are missing and they are limited on movies as well. But if there are a few older TV shows that you wanted to watch but missed you will enjoy it. Right now I am going back and watching BSG-1. I saw it all but back when it aired (nearly 10 years ago). My wife and I pick a show to watch together and watch it a few nights a week. I have a couple toddlers and it fulfills any TV they need. Also netflix is now into making some exclusives that are decent (they also seem to pick up dead shows like Arrested Development). Anyway, I do recommend it. But you just have to go in knowing it is no the same as having a cable subscription.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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It would most likely be cheaper in the long run to just get a TV antenna and point it in the right direction and stop paying each month for those. I used to have one hanging from the ceiling in an apratment I was living in several years ago. I even lived right near to the cable company and still had a poor siginal from them.Thus the antenna
ledtech3 wrote:
It would most likely be cheaper in the long run to just get a TV antenna and point it in the right direction and stop paying each month for those.
It really depends on where you live. I just moved an likely could now pick up a few channels. Where I was before (da boondocks) I would have gottten didly.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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ledtech3 wrote:
It would most likely be cheaper in the long run to just get a TV antenna and point it in the right direction and stop paying each month for those.
It really depends on where you live. I just moved an likely could now pick up a few channels. Where I was before (da boondocks) I would have gottten didly.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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you probably needed one of those +200 mile ones. The plus side to a antenna is in bad weather you can normally still get a tv signial when you loose sattilite or cable. I'm not sure about service thru the phone system.
ledtech3 wrote:
you probably needed one of those +200 mile ones.
Guess I didn't know they made 'em with that much range. That is pretty impressive. Is it big and hiedous?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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mark merrens wrote:
Oh, interesting. I was going to give up cable and simply keeping the internet connection though I had a look and I wouldn't really save any money. Damned if you do, etc.
Netflix isn't too bad (streaming). I have been with out cable for a while now and I will stay this way. It is obviously so much cheaper and I simply changed my viewing habits. Netflix gets a lot of the prime TV shows but they get them about a season later (new season airing usually results in last season streamable). For $8 a month its an awesome deal. I think RedBox started a similar program. Things are missing and they are limited on movies as well. But if there are a few older TV shows that you wanted to watch but missed you will enjoy it. Right now I am going back and watching BSG-1. I saw it all but back when it aired (nearly 10 years ago). My wife and I pick a show to watch together and watch it a few nights a week. I have a couple toddlers and it fulfills any TV they need. Also netflix is now into making some exclusives that are decent (they also seem to pick up dead shows like Arrested Development). Anyway, I do recommend it. But you just have to go in knowing it is no the same as having a cable subscription.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Just to keep a decent internet connection is about $75 a month plus taxes, etc. My wife insists on having a land line (we make a lot of overseas calls and it is cheaper). So, dropping the cable actually increases my bill by about $10 because I lose the bundling discounts (we only have basic cable anyway). Go figure: the sunshines get you every which way.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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ledtech3 wrote:
you probably needed one of those +200 mile ones.
Guess I didn't know they made 'em with that much range. That is pretty impressive. Is it big and hiedous?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
here is a 150 mile one. I seen another that is supposed to be up to 180. http://www.tvantennasale.com/Lava-HD-2605-Ultra-Outdoor-TV-Antenna-p/lavahd2605ultra.htm?gclid=CLKS1Jb9orkCFctAMgodvnsA_Q[^] I'm not saying I would buy from that site I'm just posting the picture. They used to have 200 mile ones all over but cost allot more than the 100 mile ones. I guess there was not enough call for the extreme ones as there used to be before cable and sattilite moved in.
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Just to keep a decent internet connection is about $75 a month plus taxes, etc. My wife insists on having a land line (we make a lot of overseas calls and it is cheaper). So, dropping the cable actually increases my bill by about $10 because I lose the bundling discounts (we only have basic cable anyway). Go figure: the sunshines get you every which way.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
mark merrens wrote:
Just to keep a decent internet connection is about $75 a month plus taxes,
Ridiculous. That is way too high. If you are off a promo you can usually call and get about $10 off a month. $60 is what I have been seeing (off promo with no call discount) so you might be stuck at that rate.
mark merrens wrote:
My wife insists on having a land line (we make a lot of overseas calls and it is cheaper).
Is it for family or business? My wife also makes a lot of calls (well gets a lot more often). It was all for family though so I pushed them all to get apple devices (before hangouts were working properly and Skype is too complicated for some of the family members). They are all much happier for it. The phone bill doesn't exist as its all over the internet. I get some people want a landline. I think it is way over priced though. Eventually I will buy a non-contracted cell and use that.
mark merrens wrote:
So, dropping the cable actually increases my bill by about $10 because I lose the bundling discounts (we only have basic cable anyway). Go figure: the sunshines get you every which way.
Yeah if you are getting 2/3 you are better getting all 3. In fact in some cases you are better off getting all 3 over 1. The 1 off promo is like $10 less but you can find promo's that are signable even for active customers for all 3. Meaning you could be off contract paying just for internet and find a deal that reduces your cost and adds phone and table TV. Usually those your rates go up significantly in 1 year but you have to sign a 2 year contract.
mark merrens wrote:
Go figure: the sunshines get you every which way.
Yeah, pretty much. They got the system locked and it ticks me off:mad:
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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here is a 150 mile one. I seen another that is supposed to be up to 180. http://www.tvantennasale.com/Lava-HD-2605-Ultra-Outdoor-TV-Antenna-p/lavahd2605ultra.htm?gclid=CLKS1Jb9orkCFctAMgodvnsA_Q[^] I'm not saying I would buy from that site I'm just posting the picture. They used to have 200 mile ones all over but cost allot more than the 100 mile ones. I guess there was not enough call for the extreme ones as there used to be before cable and sattilite moved in.
Good info. Thanx! I will likely get one when I move again. Right now in a leased townhome so I am not going to deal with the trouble :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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mark merrens wrote:
Just to keep a decent internet connection is about $75 a month plus taxes,
Ridiculous. That is way too high. If you are off a promo you can usually call and get about $10 off a month. $60 is what I have been seeing (off promo with no call discount) so you might be stuck at that rate.
mark merrens wrote:
My wife insists on having a land line (we make a lot of overseas calls and it is cheaper).
Is it for family or business? My wife also makes a lot of calls (well gets a lot more often). It was all for family though so I pushed them all to get apple devices (before hangouts were working properly and Skype is too complicated for some of the family members). They are all much happier for it. The phone bill doesn't exist as its all over the internet. I get some people want a landline. I think it is way over priced though. Eventually I will buy a non-contracted cell and use that.
mark merrens wrote:
So, dropping the cable actually increases my bill by about $10 because I lose the bundling discounts (we only have basic cable anyway). Go figure: the sunshines get you every which way.
Yeah if you are getting 2/3 you are better getting all 3. In fact in some cases you are better off getting all 3 over 1. The 1 off promo is like $10 less but you can find promo's that are signable even for active customers for all 3. Meaning you could be off contract paying just for internet and find a deal that reduces your cost and adds phone and table TV. Usually those your rates go up significantly in 1 year but you have to sign a 2 year contract.
mark merrens wrote:
Go figure: the sunshines get you every which way.
Yeah, pretty much. They got the system locked and it ticks me off:mad:
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Is it for family or business? My wife also makes a lot of calls (well gets a lot more often). It was all for family though so I pushed them all to get apple devices (before hangouts were working properly and Skype is too complicated for some of the family members). They are all much happier for it. The phone bill doesn't exist as its all over the internet. I get some people want a landline. I think it is way over priced though. Eventually I will buy a non-contracted cell and use that.
All family, some quite old that do not have/will not get cells. The only 'apples' they know are the ones that pull their teeth out! Actually, out of the whole deal, that is about the best bit. $2.95 a month and one cent a minute, anywhere in the world. We did use AT&T's offering which was $10 a month for 250 international minutes (on the iPhone) but the call quality was not as good as a landline. Still, I appreciate your perspective and will look again at the price of internet.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Is it for family or business? My wife also makes a lot of calls (well gets a lot more often). It was all for family though so I pushed them all to get apple devices (before hangouts were working properly and Skype is too complicated for some of the family members). They are all much happier for it. The phone bill doesn't exist as its all over the internet. I get some people want a landline. I think it is way over priced though. Eventually I will buy a non-contracted cell and use that.
All family, some quite old that do not have/will not get cells. The only 'apples' they know are the ones that pull their teeth out! Actually, out of the whole deal, that is about the best bit. $2.95 a month and one cent a minute, anywhere in the world. We did use AT&T's offering which was $10 a month for 250 international minutes (on the iPhone) but the call quality was not as good as a landline. Still, I appreciate your perspective and will look again at the price of internet.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
Hard to be rates like that. Yeah the tech barrier is difficult with older family members. I figure I got my dad who refused to touch a computer up until about 5 years ago using Facetime on the iPad then anyone can get on board with tech. The issue is that sometimes they need "facetime" to get things like Facetime working. Very difficult when they are 10K miles away. Fortunately my mother in law while not tech savy is willing to get some tech help. She got the iPhone on her own and figured out how to use facetime with some help over there. While the cost savings were a big reason why I pushed it on them it was also for the actual "facetime". My wife and I have 2 young-lings and this way their BACHAN (grandma) can see them and they can see her. They all love it :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Good info. Thanx! I will likely get one when I move again. Right now in a leased townhome so I am not going to deal with the trouble :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Your welcome. I found some different brands so a little research and reading of reviews may be needed. You also have to rember the "advertised" range is also effected by objects in the way such as trees and tall buildings. Grain Silo's :) ect. At some point I will need to get me one.