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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    He said he could do me deal, but as it's "buyer collects" I'll have to price in the £200 bar bill. :-D

    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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    Is that all? That's just the bar bar for the train from Waterloo to Hindhead...:TunelessWhistleSmiley:

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      What about AMD CPU's? What would be equivalent to an i5.

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      Nothing. AMD has processors that are in that performance range, but they are desktop processors with TDPs over 100W.

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        Nothing. AMD has processors that are in that performance range, but they are desktop processors with TDPs over 100W.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        I don't know half this shit. :laugh: :laugh: I've found a Toshiba, a brand I trust and like, with an i5, 4gb and 1TB HDD all for £390. It can take a second 4gd RAM block [or so it is said] which I'll do later. It might be I are sorted.

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          Is that all? That's just the bar bar for the train from Waterloo to Hindhead...:TunelessWhistleSmiley:

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Have you been to Hindhead? I'd need a lot more before I went there again!

          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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            Have you asked Dave? He might be able to do you a deal, provided you want a Red one! :laugh:

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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            Have you asked Dave? He might be able to do you a deal, provided you want a Red one!

            He's even gone one further than apple, by making it bucket shaped.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

              Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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              Marc A Brown
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              I recently bought a new workstation. It has a current generation i5 and 8GB of RAM. If you can get 8, I'd go for it. And if you're doing Windows development, you're going to want to go Win8 (I would recommend Win8 unless you have a real reason to go with Linux, but then I've been shamelessly singing its praises since before RTM). If you can get one, a multitouch touchpad is helpful (I have a Logitech T650 for my workstation). I much prefer that to a mouse when working with Win8.

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                I don't know half this shit. :laugh: :laugh: I've found a Toshiba, a brand I trust and like, with an i5, 4gb and 1TB HDD all for £390. It can take a second 4gd RAM block [or so it is said] which I'll do later. It might be I are sorted.

                Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                Marc A Brown
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                Yeah, as long as you can upgrade the RAM, you should be OK with that.

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  Have you asked Dave? He might be able to do you a deal, provided you want a Red one!

                  He's even gone one further than apple, by making it bucket shaped.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  That makes sense. When you find its got Win 8 and you can't get it off, you can kick the bucket... :laugh:

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                    Hi Nagy, quick response before I go on a plane to Ibiza (Amsterdam no more good due to my knee, cannot walk to much..). On the serious side I just bought a new SONY VAIO for my friend (he paid it, 499 CHF, great machine) I have an Acer 5250 ASPIRE at home and I like it, got it for 600 CHF.. With 0.69 rate enter your budget..

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Have you been to Hindhead? I'd need a lot more before I went there again!

                      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                      I went through there every Elephanting day in the rush hour for seven or eight years (before they started work on the tunnel). I never stopped there voluntarily...but away from the A3 it's OK, apparently.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I went through there every Elephanting day in the rush hour for seven or eight years (before they started work on the tunnel). I never stopped there voluntarily...but away from the A3 it's OK, apparently.

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        but away from the A3 it's OK, apparently.

                        If you believe that, I have a bridge you might be interested in...

                        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          but away from the A3 it's OK, apparently.

                          If you believe that, I have a bridge you might be interested in...

                          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                          I say "apparently" because I went boozing there one night. Or at least I think it was one night - it could easily have been a few days as well given the friends I was drinking with. I seemed to have had a good time, but I don't remember much at all...and any town where I could get that drunk in those days and still get home with more cash than I started with couldn't be all bad! :laugh:

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            4GB RAM is fine - I've had an i5 laptop for about 2 years where I was doing all sorts of SQL Server, Oracle, VS development. However, having recently forayed into Ubuntu (yuck) and Ruby on Rails, 8GB became absolutely necessary to run Ubuntu in a VM. Fortunately, I've been able to get all the RoR stuff to work under Windows so I can do all my development there. Yay! Marc

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                              Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                              Take care with the resolution available with an external monitor. I have a 2 year old Samsung that was very expensive, i7, 8gb, ssd, blah blah. It wont do more than 1024*768 resolution on an external monitor..

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                                Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                                I know it's a little over your budget - but hey, the girls won't need uniforms for another three years :) Go the MacBook air

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                                  Andrei Bozantan
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                                  Maybe you should look to have a DisplayPort also (this is for external displays with resolutions bigger than 1920x1200). i5 should be enough (I have an i3 and it's still good), but definitely go with more than 4 Gb RAM and an SSD.

                                  If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                                    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                                    Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                    Take a look in the BT shop. (Unless it is restricted to customers only). I saw an i3 with 4G and a 320 drive plus a 20G ssd(don't ask me how that works) for £350. Built-in DVD RW. Or pad out a used Elitebook with new bits for a couple of hundred(smelly I know).

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      4GB RAM is fine - I've had an i5 laptop for about 2 years where I was doing all sorts of SQL Server, Oracle, VS development. However, having recently forayed into Ubuntu (yuck) and Ruby on Rails, 8GB became absolutely necessary to run Ubuntu in a VM. Fortunately, I've been able to get all the RoR stuff to work under Windows so I can do all my development there. Yay! Marc

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                                      Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                      Funny that. I run Ubuntu with W :laugh: indows virtual machines and get away with 2GB RAM. It must be some bloatware you're using to put up VM. What host are you using?

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                                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                                        Okay, what spec should I look for for a dev ready laptop? I won't need over 15" screen as I have an external I'll use as well, but I'm after help on processor [i5?] and memory [4GB]. I am undecided between going down Win8 or finally switching to Ubuntu [Ubuntu, they use it in the Jungle!]. HDD capacity isn't a big thing, I've got 2TB, and growing, external. But a DVD player would be useful or should I move to an external. The budgie right now is ~£400 but I'd like to know what I should get [probably costs more] and then look at what I can get. Mercans can only suggest if they'll ship it here. For free. As in beer.

                                        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol "Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow

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                                        I recently bought a refurbished DELL XPS 1730 for development purposes that meets the mini-specification you cited in all particulars: 32 GByte SSD, 1 TByte normal hard disk, 4G Bytes RAM, DVD reader-writer, and so forth. $700 on eBay, and there were others available at the same price. I'm quite happy with it. Among persons I know who've bought refurbished laptops, the experiences appear to be generally positive. The machines we've purchased have proved reliable...so far!

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                                        • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                          Funny that. I run Ubuntu with W :laugh: indows virtual machines and get away with 2GB RAM. It must be some bloatware you're using to put up VM. What host are you using?

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                                          Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote:

                                          It must be some bloatware you're using to put up VM. What host are you using?

                                          I'm using Virtual Box. It would be fine, but in the VM I was running Ruby on Rails with the RubyMine IDE doing lots of feature test runs, and it's slow, plus switching to Windows using my own Intertexti application (see article somewhere here, haha) for taking meeting notes, etc. Which is why it was really nice when I solved various problems with native gems to get the whole web app running under Windows with RailsInstaller and Cygwin. Marc

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