The U.S. is no longer the land of the free
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The only other country I can really talk about is the UK which is, ironically, I feel, freer than the US, other than the recent 'hate' speech nonsense and the ridiculous proliferation of 'security' cameras. However, freedom is in the mind of the beholder. It is hard to quantify since I do feel pretty free here. As a private, law-abiding citizen I do my best to avoid situations that would cause me to be in a position to test the limits of my freedom. In nay case, perhaps no one is quite as free as they think they are any more. And perhaps the only really free people are those that do push against the system and get away with it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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Dare I say Russia?
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The only other country I can really talk about is the UK which is, ironically, I feel, freer than the US, other than the recent 'hate' speech nonsense and the ridiculous proliferation of 'security' cameras. However, freedom is in the mind of the beholder. It is hard to quantify since I do feel pretty free here. As a private, law-abiding citizen I do my best to avoid situations that would cause me to be in a position to test the limits of my freedom. In nay case, perhaps no one is quite as free as they think they are any more. And perhaps the only really free people are those that do push against the system and get away with it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
mark merrens wrote:
In nay case, perhaps no one is quite as free as they think they are any more
They never were.
mark merrens wrote:
And perhaps the only really free people are those that do push against the system and get away with it.
So you're basically saying that money == freedom? Well, the richer the country the freer it seems to be. Is that a cause or an effect?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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mark merrens wrote:
In nay case, perhaps no one is quite as free as they think they are any more
They never were.
mark merrens wrote:
And perhaps the only really free people are those that do push against the system and get away with it.
So you're basically saying that money == freedom? Well, the richer the country the freer it seems to be. Is that a cause or an effect?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
So you're basically saying that money == freedom?
Well, that too. Money buys you the freedom of choice but I'd still live within the law of the land. No, I meant people that do whatever they want and get away with it, rich or poor. There are always those that resist or confront societal norms and rules and seem to do it with impunity. They are truly free.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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From what I understand about the financial crisis in Europe, I believe Greece may be the land of the free(loaders)! :laugh:
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It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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When has it ever been? You guys are being governed by installing fear in to mainstream society. Hence the government can make as many draconian laws as they want. Be afraid be very afraid there is a terrorist hiding behind every bush, corner or wherever else that is not in you line of sight. What leaves me gobsmacked in the US public swallows this line hook line and sinker.
If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Which country IS the land of the free nowadays?
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Which country IS the land of the free nowadays?
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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According to Matt Drudge? Putin is the leader of the free world, so perhaps Russia. :rolleyes: Matt Drudge Tweets: "Putin is the leader of the free world..."[^] The site is a tad bit bias, but it was the first one that popped up when I googled to get a link.
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It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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Define free.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
Rage wrote:
Define free.
Good question! Liberty may vary from your point of view. But I can say, although we are in some areas more free than the US and in others not, I won't call Germany the land of the free. Perhaps Switzerland?
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Rage wrote:
Define free.
Good question! Liberty may vary from your point of view. But I can say, although we are in some areas more free than the US and in others not, I won't call Germany the land of the free. Perhaps Switzerland?
SharePoint Consultant and Developer at acocon Author of Primary ROleplaying SysTem I'm the ninth in a row of seven!
ihoecken wrote:
I won't call Germany the land of the free
How about Germany being the Land of the Free Internet (for those on the dole)?
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Rage wrote:
Define free.
Good question! Liberty may vary from your point of view. But I can say, although we are in some areas more free than the US and in others not, I won't call Germany the land of the free. Perhaps Switzerland?
SharePoint Consultant and Developer at acocon Author of Primary ROleplaying SysTem I'm the ninth in a row of seven!
I would say though that Germany is definitely one of the top contenders for the title. Largely because of history. After the war the constitution and the political system was purpose built to avoid a repetition of history. And it works too. Just go to Brussels (or Washington) and mention the Bundesverfassungsgericht and you will see a lot of people that will spit and swear a lot.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
