Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Reasonable message timeout

Reasonable message timeout

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
helpquestion
20 Posts 9 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    You'd be surprised! There is a "skill" called "skimming" which can raise that to 700 wpm, and it is frequently used (often without realizing) on the internet to skip whole sentences or paragraphs by realising that they are irrelevant to what you are looking for. Comprehension is a lot lower, but the "reading rate" can get over 1000 wpm! :omg: But...there are those that claim 10,000 wpm, but I've never seen it proved - there is a World Championship Speed Reading Competition where the top contestants typically read around 1,000 to 2,000 words per minute with approximately 50% comprehension or above. The world champion is Anne Jones with 4,700 words per minute with 67% comprehension - or nearly 80 words per second. Elephant! I'm fast - I can read the average novel in about two hours if I settle down and go for it - but I'm nowhere near that kind of speed!

    This message is manufactured from fully recyclable noughts and ones. To recycle this message, please separate into two tidy piles, and take them to your nearest local recycling centre. Please note that in some areas noughts are always replaced with zeros by law, and many facilities cannot recycle zeroes - in this case, please bury them in your back garden and water frequently.

    D Offline
    D Offline
    DaveAuld
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    I do that and it drives the wife mental. If I am helping her look for something on the net and looking at web pages or search results I'm scrolling or shouting next page and she is still somewhere near the start. I can't stand reading novels though, technical stuff no problem. When skim reading I appear to see longer words as keywords and also numbers stand out, making filtering quite quick. She sometimes demands to read the page fully as she doesn't believe I've been through and declared it of no use. :zzz: If I am also fortunate to combine this with the days when my google-fu is working on overdrive.....stand clear, the force is strong! :-\

    Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


    Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

    A F 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • A aboubkr90

      I've been trying to set a reasonable timeout (not too long or short) on a pop-up message. But after so many times i started reading the message even before looking. So changing the timeout to see if it's suitable is not an option. So i switched to mister Google, However everyone seems to be asking 'HOW' not 'FOR HOW LONG'. Can anybody help?

      B Offline
      B Offline
      baloneyman
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      IMO it is always nice to add an 'don't show this message again' checkbox.

      A 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • B baloneyman

        IMO it is always nice to add an 'don't show this message again' checkbox.

        A Offline
        A Offline
        aboubkr90
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        It's a message like "Item saved successfully" you can't 'not show that again'.

        P 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • P PIEBALDconsult

          I really dislike messages that go away while I'm reading them. Like little reminders in the system try. You don't know what I'm doing; I may be talking with someone and will read the message momentarily. If a message is unimportant enough to time out, then don't show it at all.

          A Offline
          A Offline
          aboubkr90
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          It's an action's feedback you will have to be looking to make an action so you will see it. System notifications are permanent until you close it.

          P 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • D DaveAuld

            I do that and it drives the wife mental. If I am helping her look for something on the net and looking at web pages or search results I'm scrolling or shouting next page and she is still somewhere near the start. I can't stand reading novels though, technical stuff no problem. When skim reading I appear to see longer words as keywords and also numbers stand out, making filtering quite quick. She sometimes demands to read the page fully as she doesn't believe I've been through and declared it of no use. :zzz: If I am also fortunate to combine this with the days when my google-fu is working on overdrive.....stand clear, the force is strong! :-\

            Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


            Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

            A Offline
            A Offline
            aboubkr90
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            Having someone by your side while googling can be really really hellish. They always seem to use the whole sentence to look for something, and that never goes well.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Depends on the pop-up and what it's message contains, and how long it is! If it's important, then you should leave it there until they acknowledge it. If it's trivial, or advertising, then long enough for the average person to read it twice - once to notice it's there, once to read it. The average adult reading speed is 250 words per minute (or 4 and a bit words per second) - http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Through-College-Reading-Edition/dp/0321146018[^] - but it's worth assuming that the "average reading speed" of your users is rather lower, say 150~200 wpm as the 250 wpm figure only assmes 70% comprehension.

              This message is manufactured from fully recyclable noughts and ones. To recycle this message, please separate into two tidy piles, and take them to your nearest local recycling centre. Please note that in some areas noughts are always replaced with zeros by law, and many facilities cannot recycle zeroes - in this case, please bury them in your back garden and water frequently.

              A Offline
              A Offline
              aboubkr90
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              Adding to that: you will need a static short period of time for the user to notice and actually start reading.

              OriginalGriffO 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • A aboubkr90

                Adding to that: you will need a static short period of time for the user to notice and actually start reading.

                OriginalGriffO Offline
                OriginalGriffO Offline
                OriginalGriff
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                That's why I said: "long enough for the average person to read it twice - once to notice it's there, once to read it. "

                This message is manufactured from fully recyclable noughts and ones. To recycle this message, please separate into two tidy piles, and take them to your nearest local recycling centre. Please note that in some areas noughts are always replaced with zeros by law, and many facilities cannot recycle zeroes - in this case, please bury them in your back garden and water frequently.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • A aboubkr90

                  It's an action's feedback you will have to be looking to make an action so you will see it. System notifications are permanent until you close it.

                  P Offline
                  P Offline
                  PIEBALDconsult
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  Don't bet on it. I do lots of things without looking.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • A aboubkr90

                    It's a message like "Item saved successfully" you can't 'not show that again'.

                    P Offline
                    P Offline
                    PIEBALDconsult
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    Then make a status bar and put it there. I can't stand pop-ups for stupid stuff like that.

                    A 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • D DaveAuld

                      I do that and it drives the wife mental. If I am helping her look for something on the net and looking at web pages or search results I'm scrolling or shouting next page and she is still somewhere near the start. I can't stand reading novels though, technical stuff no problem. When skim reading I appear to see longer words as keywords and also numbers stand out, making filtering quite quick. She sometimes demands to read the page fully as she doesn't believe I've been through and declared it of no use. :zzz: If I am also fortunate to combine this with the days when my google-fu is working on overdrive.....stand clear, the force is strong! :-\

                      Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


                      Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

                      F Offline
                      F Offline
                      Forogar
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      I have the same problem. My wife likes to google things about actors or other people in the news and those articles or commentaries are usually so shallow I can read the entire page in a couple of glances so if we are together I have the entire content read in a couple of seconds and she starts reading it out loud to me (like she used to do for our son in the olden days when he was under six foot). I will take a break, get a cup of tea and come back in time to scroll to the next page. Now I know, when she says, "I wonder what is going on with ..." to run into my computer room, google the appropriate person and then run back a few seconds later (sometimes it takes a few articles to find something interesting) and tell her rather than let her google it herself, because then I will be subject to endless minutes of slow reading aloud.

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • A aboubkr90

                        I've been trying to set a reasonable timeout (not too long or short) on a pop-up message. But after so many times i started reading the message even before looking. So changing the timeout to see if it's suitable is not an option. So i switched to mister Google, However everyone seems to be asking 'HOW' not 'FOR HOW LONG'. Can anybody help?

                        G Offline
                        G Offline
                        GenJerDan
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        Access their webcam and don't dismiss the popup until their eyes have returned to the main screen.

                        YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

                        A 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • G GenJerDan

                          Access their webcam and don't dismiss the popup until their eyes have returned to the main screen.

                          YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

                          A Offline
                          A Offline
                          aboubkr90
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          ;)

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            Then make a status bar and put it there. I can't stand pop-ups for stupid stuff like that.

                            A Offline
                            A Offline
                            aboubkr90
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            That's the plan.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            Reply
                            • Reply as topic
                            Log in to reply
                            • Oldest to Newest
                            • Newest to Oldest
                            • Most Votes


                            • Login

                            • Don't have an account? Register

                            • Login or register to search.
                            • First post
                              Last post
                            0
                            • Categories
                            • Recent
                            • Tags
                            • Popular
                            • World
                            • Users
                            • Groups