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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Alternative #1: In the UK, you can hire a Forklift from just £39 per week... :laugh:

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    Ron Beyer
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    How much do they charge when it sinks in my "very close to the water table" yard? :)

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      Alternative #1: In the UK, you can hire a Forklift from just £39 per week... :laugh:

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      He wants to lift a Tub not a fork. :doh:

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        How much do they charge when it sinks in my "very close to the water table" yard? :)

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        If the sled didn't sink it shouldn't be a problem - and if it is just use sheets of wood to spread the load. You can always drive the forklift onto a sheet, then move the one it drove off, and repeat. But if your yard is that close to the water table, why not just dig a hole, and heat that? :laugh:

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          If the sled didn't sink it shouldn't be a problem - and if it is just use sheets of wood to spread the load. You can always drive the forklift onto a sheet, then move the one it drove off, and repeat. But if your yard is that close to the water table, why not just dig a hole, and heat that? :laugh:

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          But if your yard is that close to the water table, why not just dig a hole, and heat that? Laugh | :laugh:

          Brilliant!

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            He wants to lift a Tub not a fork. :doh:

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            I'm assuming it's a very heavy fork!

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              Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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              S Douglas
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              First mistake was not engineering the existing platform for transport. If it’s not over engineered, it wasn't engineered at all. Esp. a hot tub, I hear those buggers are heavy. :rolleyes:


              Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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                You forgot Step 0: Drain the hot tub. (Would have been seriously lighter...) :doh:

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  You forgot Step 0: Drain the hot tub. (Would have been seriously lighter...) :doh:

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  My thought exactly!

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                  • S S Houghtelin

                    You forgot Step 0: Drain the hot tub. (Would have been seriously lighter...) :doh:

                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    I drained it, blew out the tubes as best I could, but its almost impossible to get it all out, probably had about 10 gallons in various piping and pumps. Doesn't seem like much, but water weighs around 8lb/gal :) [Edit] Would never have been able to move a full hot tub, even if I could it would probably crack the fiberglass structure. Full, the hot tub weighs around 4400lbs (450 gallons of water + 700lbs structure).

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                      I drained it, blew out the tubes as best I could, but its almost impossible to get it all out, probably had about 10 gallons in various piping and pumps. Doesn't seem like much, but water weighs around 8lb/gal :) [Edit] Would never have been able to move a full hot tub, even if I could it would probably crack the fiberglass structure. Full, the hot tub weighs around 4400lbs (450 gallons of water + 700lbs structure).

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                      I believe it was meant as a joke. Of course the joke icon could mean something else to you. :laugh:

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                        I believe it was meant as a joke. Of course the joke icon could mean something else to you. :laugh:

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                        Ron Beyer
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                        Eh, don't even look at the icons. But if I had the tools to move it full I probably would :D Its really a PITA to fill back up!

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                        • R Ron Beyer

                          Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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                          thrakazog
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                          For removing an old tub my solution would have required: (1) chainsaw Step 1: Cut tub, nearby house siding, and possibly legs. Step 2: haul away small tub pieces. Step 3: repeat step 2 as necessary. :rolleyes:

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                            Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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                            Alternatives to moving it: 0) Bury it in-place. 1) Fill it with concrete and mount a .50 machine gun on it. 2) Build an attractive teak cover over it and decorate to taste 3) Build a gazebo over it 4) Convert it to a largish fish sanctuary. 5) Convert it into a fountain 6) Ignore it and let the weather have it. Notice that none of these suggestions requires you to actually move it. When you install your new one, make sure you put it closeto the driveway so you don't have to move it very far when you tire of it.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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                              0: Empty the fruggin' thing.

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                                Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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                                Hey I had the same problem and learned from the Egyptians. I remove gardens logs to roll under the 8 man tub, why isn't it called 8 naked women? We moved it from our driveway to the next door neighbor's driveway. It move very easily and roll away on us a few times but a quick law of leverage and we were underway again. Glad I sold that sucker, power sucker!

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                                  Alternatives to moving it: 0) Bury it in-place. 1) Fill it with concrete and mount a .50 machine gun on it. 2) Build an attractive teak cover over it and decorate to taste 3) Build a gazebo over it 4) Convert it to a largish fish sanctuary. 5) Convert it into a fountain 6) Ignore it and let the weather have it. Notice that none of these suggestions requires you to actually move it. When you install your new one, make sure you put it closeto the driveway so you don't have to move it very far when you tire of it.

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  1. Fill it with concrete and mount a .50 machine gun on it.

                                  Excellent plan, depending on its location. A machine gun is wasted if the gunner is denied a clear field of fire, say 300 yards in most directions.

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  1. Convert it to a largish fish sanctuary poacher.

                                  ftfy. You're welcome...

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  1. Convert it into a fountain

                                  Remove the bottom and convert it into a missile silo for deploying a black market SS-18. I hear that they're cheap and plentiful since the breakup of the USSR. If the original warheads can be acquired, that part of the yhard should never again be troubled by snow and ice accumulations...

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  When you install your new one, make sure you put it closeto the driveway so you don't have to move it very far when you tire of it.

                                  That's probably the best advice of all, though I - personally - would dearly love to have one of those things in my yard; they do work wonders for aching bones.

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                                    Hey I had the same problem and learned from the Egyptians. I remove gardens logs to roll under the 8 man tub, why isn't it called 8 naked women? We moved it from our driveway to the next door neighbor's driveway. It move very easily and roll away on us a few times but a quick law of leverage and we were underway again. Glad I sold that sucker, power sucker!

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                                    mmSticky wrote:

                                    why isn't it called 8 naked women?

                                    We have Truth In Advertising laws here. What are the odds that any of us will ever attract 8 Naked Women to our hot tub with first winning the PowerBall lottery?

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      Tools/Supplies Required: (1) 4-Wheeler (2) 2"x6"x8' Lumber (4) 2"x4"x8' Lumber (1) Box of deck screws (1) Tow rope (1) Ea. Drill, Circular Saw Step 1: Make a sled. Of course this is done in the front yard, and what man wears safety glasses? So an integral part of Step 1 while making the sled is to get as much saw dust in the eyes as possible. When finished spend at least 5 minutes marveling at the engineering. Step 2: Break the sled. While trying to "slide" the hot-tub onto the sled, you need to snap at least one of the supporting structures. As many expletives need to be shouted as you walk around the house to get another 2x4 to repair the sled. Bless your foresight for not using the 16-D nails instead of deck screws. Step 3: Get hot tub on sled. This requires pulling at least one muscle in your back and possibly cracking a rib (hot tub weighs 700lbs empty, and its not completely empty). After man-handling this thing onto the sled and sweating like an eskimo in the jungle, you realize the sled is backwards (you made cut-outs in the front so it would not dig up the lawn). Step 4: Dig up the lawn. Well since you have to pull the sled backwards for 40 feet or so, make a (4) 2" wide trenches in the lawn. Step 5: Slam the 4-wheeler into the house. Pulling the sled to the new location requires you to get very close to the house with the 4-wheeler. Since the new location is next to a hill, you have to pull it all the way up to the house. Watch the hot tub as you pull forward, not where you are going. Step 6: Blow a lung Somehow the hot tub became twice as heavy in the move, so strain the rest of the muscles in your back and legs. And now the worst one of all, I moved the hot tub because I bought a new one, and its much, much bigger than the old one. I get to move that one next weekend and the challenge of putting it on a platform first. Why by myself? Wife is pregnant and most of my friends live an hour away (and have kids). At least I get to sit on my ass for a living so I can recover :)

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                                      the easy way flog it on EBAY - buyer collects - no reserve

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                                        Alternatives to moving it: 0) Bury it in-place. 1) Fill it with concrete and mount a .50 machine gun on it. 2) Build an attractive teak cover over it and decorate to taste 3) Build a gazebo over it 4) Convert it to a largish fish sanctuary. 5) Convert it into a fountain 6) Ignore it and let the weather have it. Notice that none of these suggestions requires you to actually move it. When you install your new one, make sure you put it closeto the driveway so you don't have to move it very far when you tire of it.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                        7. Nothing wrong with having two hotubs. You'll just need to make more friends.

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