Quit smoking? Easy...
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The trick is to do it only once.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Did you follow the links? £10 a pack for cigarettes in Oz! :omg: And I thought the UK £7:50 a pack was expensive... Mind you, I gave up nine years ago, so it doesn't bother me, but still... :wtf:
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Did you follow the links? £10 a pack for cigarettes in Oz! :omg: And I thought the UK £7:50 a pack was expensive... Mind you, I gave up nine years ago, so it doesn't bother me, but still... :wtf:
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For about 30 years now every govt in Oz has felt it is perfectly safe to whack a tax hike on smokes, and booze, although that one bites them when they get too greedy. Smokes have been fair game and the nanny state that Oz govt has become delights in "it is for your own good" and stump up the price again. Like you I managed to give up a decade ago, I think once you get to a certain age and realise you are actually mortal you get the will power to give them up. Or maybe I'm just too miserable to pay the price!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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For about 30 years now every govt in Oz has felt it is perfectly safe to whack a tax hike on smokes, and booze, although that one bites them when they get too greedy. Smokes have been fair game and the nanny state that Oz govt has become delights in "it is for your own good" and stump up the price again. Like you I managed to give up a decade ago, I think once you get to a certain age and realise you are actually mortal you get the will power to give them up. Or maybe I'm just too miserable to pay the price!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
I gave up because I got bored with being controlled by cigarettes and my need for them, instead of it being the other way round. I wasn't enjoying them, I needed them - so after twenty years I moved to the patches. Not saying it was easy - it wasn't, particularly - but I believe that unless you actually want to give up you won't succeed. And "These are getting ludicrously expensive" just isn't sufficient justification. It was interesting to see that very little encourages people to stop: when my mother died of the Big C a few years later (after a lifetime of heavy smoking) as soon as people got outside the crematorium they lit up... :sigh:
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The trick is to do it only once.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
Indeed! That's the reason for the selected Message Type in the post ;)
-- If money is your hope for independence, you cannot reach it. Being loved gives you strength, while loving gives you courage.
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I gave up because I got bored with being controlled by cigarettes and my need for them, instead of it being the other way round. I wasn't enjoying them, I needed them - so after twenty years I moved to the patches. Not saying it was easy - it wasn't, particularly - but I believe that unless you actually want to give up you won't succeed. And "These are getting ludicrously expensive" just isn't sufficient justification. It was interesting to see that very little encourages people to stop: when my mother died of the Big C a few years later (after a lifetime of heavy smoking) as soon as people got outside the crematorium they lit up... :sigh:
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Griff wrote:
and my need for them ... instead of it being the other way round
So ... you had an aspiration that the cigarettes will need you :^) in what way?
-- If money is your hope for independence, you cannot reach it. Being loved gives you strength, while loving gives you courage.
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Griff wrote:
and my need for them ... instead of it being the other way round
So ... you had an aspiration that the cigarettes will need you :^) in what way?
-- If money is your hope for independence, you cannot reach it. Being loved gives you strength, while loving gives you courage.
Without the smoker, cigarettes have no purpose in life. This is quite likely to result in depression, and even cigacide...
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Without the smoker, cigarettes have no purpose in life. This is quite likely to result in depression, and even cigacide...
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very true, gave up 30 years ago for 8 years then started back and this time i quit abot 4 years ago.
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Canny Brisk wrote:
I've done it so many times! :cool:
It was actually Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens that originally said
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Quitting smoking is easy. I’ve done it a thousand times.
It was somewhat remarkable in that he died in 1910 and therefore said it decades before society figured out the dangers of smoking.
Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey
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Canny Brisk wrote:
I've done it so many times! :cool:
It was actually Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens that originally said
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Quitting smoking is easy. I’ve done it a thousand times.
It was somewhat remarkable in that he died in 1910 and therefore said it decades before society figured out the dangers of smoking.
Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey
This is from 1892; Cigarettes have been analyzed, and most physicians and chemists were surprised to find how much opium is put into them. A tobacconist himself says that the extent to which drugs are used in cigarettes is appalling. Havana flavoring for this same purpose is sold everywhere by the thousand barrels. This flavoring is made from the tonkabean, which contains a deadly poison. The wrappers, warranted to be rice paper, are sometimes made of common paper, and sometimes of the filthy scrapings of rag pickers bleached white with arsenic. What a thing for human lungs. The habit burns up good health, good resolutions, good manners, good memories, good faculties, and often honesty and truthfulness as well. Cases of epilepsy, insanity and death are frequently reported as the result of smoking cigarettes, while such physicians as Dr. Lewis Sayre, Dr. Hammond, and Sir Morell Mackenzie of England, name heart trouble, blindness, cancer and other diseases as occasioned by it. Leading physicians of America unanimously condemn cigarette smoking as one of the vilest and most destructive evils that ever befell the youth of any country, declaring that its direct tendency is a deterioration of the race. Look at the pale, wilted complexion of a boy who indulges in excessive cigarette smoking. It takes no physician to diagnose his case, and death will surely mark for his own every boy and young man who will follow up the habit. It is no longer a matter of guess. It is a scientific fact which the microscope in every case verifies.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Canny Brisk wrote:
I've done it so many times! :cool:
It was actually Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens that originally said
Quote:
Quitting smoking is easy. I’ve done it a thousand times.
It was somewhat remarkable in that he died in 1910 and therefore said it decades before society figured out the dangers of smoking.
Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey
H.Brydon wrote:
Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo.
- Harvey:laugh:
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This is from 1892; Cigarettes have been analyzed, and most physicians and chemists were surprised to find how much opium is put into them. A tobacconist himself says that the extent to which drugs are used in cigarettes is appalling. Havana flavoring for this same purpose is sold everywhere by the thousand barrels. This flavoring is made from the tonkabean, which contains a deadly poison. The wrappers, warranted to be rice paper, are sometimes made of common paper, and sometimes of the filthy scrapings of rag pickers bleached white with arsenic. What a thing for human lungs. The habit burns up good health, good resolutions, good manners, good memories, good faculties, and often honesty and truthfulness as well. Cases of epilepsy, insanity and death are frequently reported as the result of smoking cigarettes, while such physicians as Dr. Lewis Sayre, Dr. Hammond, and Sir Morell Mackenzie of England, name heart trouble, blindness, cancer and other diseases as occasioned by it. Leading physicians of America unanimously condemn cigarette smoking as one of the vilest and most destructive evils that ever befell the youth of any country, declaring that its direct tendency is a deterioration of the race. Look at the pale, wilted complexion of a boy who indulges in excessive cigarette smoking. It takes no physician to diagnose his case, and death will surely mark for his own every boy and young man who will follow up the habit. It is no longer a matter of guess. It is a scientific fact which the microscope in every case verifies.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
That is one industrial strength marketing program, 120 YEARS later and they are still able to convince people to start smoking without being lynched for attempted murder.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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This is from 1892; Cigarettes have been analyzed, and most physicians and chemists were surprised to find how much opium is put into them. A tobacconist himself says that the extent to which drugs are used in cigarettes is appalling. Havana flavoring for this same purpose is sold everywhere by the thousand barrels. This flavoring is made from the tonkabean, which contains a deadly poison. The wrappers, warranted to be rice paper, are sometimes made of common paper, and sometimes of the filthy scrapings of rag pickers bleached white with arsenic. What a thing for human lungs. The habit burns up good health, good resolutions, good manners, good memories, good faculties, and often honesty and truthfulness as well. Cases of epilepsy, insanity and death are frequently reported as the result of smoking cigarettes, while such physicians as Dr. Lewis Sayre, Dr. Hammond, and Sir Morell Mackenzie of England, name heart trouble, blindness, cancer and other diseases as occasioned by it. Leading physicians of America unanimously condemn cigarette smoking as one of the vilest and most destructive evils that ever befell the youth of any country, declaring that its direct tendency is a deterioration of the race. Look at the pale, wilted complexion of a boy who indulges in excessive cigarette smoking. It takes no physician to diagnose his case, and death will surely mark for his own every boy and young man who will follow up the habit. It is no longer a matter of guess. It is a scientific fact which the microscope in every case verifies.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
Okay, but the major hazard identified here seems to be the opium, arsenic and other additives, and the tone of the info seems to be similar to various snake oil merchants of the time. I don't believe it was common knowledge in those days that cigarettes were as harmful as we now know. There are many people nowadays claiming various things in all directions about global warming, gun ownership, national debt, and numerous other things that will require time to sort out the facts from the nonsense. We don't seem to have consensus on these issues that should be a fairly straightforward analysis.
Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey
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Great idea. It'll really work. I mean, you want to make sure that you avoid things that make you think about smoking... ... e.g. ruddy great anti-smoking head-cages.
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Okay, but the major hazard identified here seems to be the opium, arsenic and other additives, and the tone of the info seems to be similar to various snake oil merchants of the time. I don't believe it was common knowledge in those days that cigarettes were as harmful as we now know. There are many people nowadays claiming various things in all directions about global warming, gun ownership, national debt, and numerous other things that will require time to sort out the facts from the nonsense. We don't seem to have consensus on these issues that should be a fairly straightforward analysis.
Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey
H.Brydon wrote:
I don't believe it was common knowledge in those days that cigarettes were as harmful as we now know.
Obviously not, knowledge was not as easily shared or read as it is now. However, Twain spent a fair amount of time attacking those who said smoking was a bad habit, writing essays about it. Anti-smoking groups grew in Europe from the start of the last century (1904 the first properly organized group) with the link between smoking and lung cancer identified, it took hold so well in Germany that when the Nazis came to power Hitler was able to launch his no smoking campaigns. In 1604 James I of England wrote a treatise expressing his dislike of smoking tobacco, one of the reasons was the danger to the lungs and referenced a number of medical theories of the time.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
