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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Gun's don't kill people. But massive availability of guns contributes to people being killed by guns. It's very simple. :) -- Say it darling Doesn’t seem like you want that kind of honey, honey

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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But massive availability of guns You think guns are massively available? What then would you call the availability of ammunition!

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      These stereotypes are annoying, aren't they? And no, I didn't write "each one its turn" ;)


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      I am too quick to judge the French. However, labeling all Americans as drigger happy goes too far, IMO. I don't even own a gun, let alone know how to use one.

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        I am too quick to judge the French. However, labeling all Americans as drigger happy goes too far, IMO. I don't even own a gun, let alone know how to use one.

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        KaRl
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        I think labelling any individual because of its nationality is a mistake, each one should deserve the right to be considered as an entity, a human being.


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          I think labelling any individual because of its nationality is a mistake, each one should deserve the right to be considered as an entity, a human being.


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          My message should have said trigger happy instead of drigger happy. :idiot smiley:

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            So you're lumping all Americans in with this guy? Grow up Ed.

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            Within 5 years, more people in America will be killed by guns each year than in automobile accidents. Somebody is pulling all those triggers; it's a bigger problem than just this one idiot.

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              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But massive availability of guns You think guns are massively available? What then would you call the availability of ammunition!

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              Shog9 wrote: What then would you call the availability of ammunition! Even more available I'm afraid. Anyhow, my point is that if weapons were more regulated in the US, I think there would be less gun related killings. A nervous finger is a lot less dangerous if it's not on a trigger. :) -- Say it darling Doesn’t seem like you want that kind of honey, honey

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                Ok, two people have mentioned that now, but wasn't it supposed to be taking the piss? :confused:


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                wasn't it supposed to be taking the piss? I'm not familiar with this expression used this way, David. What's the translation?

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                  Shog9 wrote: What then would you call the availability of ammunition! Even more available I'm afraid. Anyhow, my point is that if weapons were more regulated in the US, I think there would be less gun related killings. A nervous finger is a lot less dangerous if it's not on a trigger. :) -- Say it darling Doesn’t seem like you want that kind of honey, honey

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Anyhow, my point is that if weapons were more regulated in the US, I think there would be less gun related killings. It's possible... hard to predict though. Dangerous as they are, nervous fingers don't become harmless merely by removing them from a trigger. At some point, you've gotta look at what motivates people to be owning and using guns. If you haven't already, watch "Bowling for Columbine" - Michael Moore is an ass, but he makes some interesting observations just the same.

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                    A man whose daughter was hit with a snowball by a group of girls returned to the scene and opened fire with a gun, critically wounding a 10-year-old youngster, police said. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/24/snowball.shooting.ap/index.html[^]

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                    Its a thought........... The tigress is here :-D

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                      Shog9 wrote: What then would you call the availability of ammunition! Even more available I'm afraid. Anyhow, my point is that if weapons were more regulated in the US, I think there would be less gun related killings. A nervous finger is a lot less dangerous if it's not on a trigger. :) -- Say it darling Doesn’t seem like you want that kind of honey, honey

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Anyhow, my point is that if weapons were more regulated in the US, I think there would be less gun related killings. A nervous finger is a lot less dangerous if it's not on a trigger. This is one of those fanciful, but false "things". As an example, Florida had an extremely high crime rate in the recent past. This is a state with a lot of retirees and tourists, all easy targets. "You" would hear about car jackings, etc. Then a couple of years ago Florida passed a "right to carry" law. The crime rate went down. While there are many that would disagree, our constituition (via amendment) gives citizens the right to bare arms. My interpretation of this amendment, and others will disagree, is that this right was not put in place so folks could go hunting but to ensure that the citizens will not have to endure an oppressive government. Suppose that the government decided that everyone who had an Irish heritage could be put in railway cars and carted off to be .... The citizenry would have a way and the means to fight back. I get worried every time the government attempts to restrict this basic, constitutionally guaranteed right. Mike

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                        Shog9 wrote: Guns don't kill people, Devon kills people. I thought Devon just cracked people up? :~ Remind me not ta stop on my waay to Corrnwalll... ;) Just how do you write in a bad Cornish accent, anyway? Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                        • D Doug Goulden

                          Maybe it would be better titled Person overreacts.... Obviously the guy was a nut case. That isn't something that American's have a corner on. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                          Of course not, but how'd such a nutcase get a gun licence in the first place? Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                            wasn't it supposed to be taking the piss? I'm not familiar with this expression used this way, David. What's the translation?

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                            you gotta be joking! :laugh: If you're serious, boy are we going to have some fun with you over the next few days.. ;P Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                              wasn't it supposed to be taking the piss? I'm not familiar with this expression used this way, David. What's the translation?

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                              Ed Gadziemski wrote: I'm not familiar with this expression used this way, David. What's the translation? I'm not David, but I supose I will do. Taking the piss, is....Taking the piss. Very hard to explain, so I will use what I believe is an American sayinhg that means the same. Taking the mickey. Shit stirring, not taking it seriously. Something English and Australians do with friends and family almost instinctively. So prevelant now that it happens at work and with people you don't know. Not stereotyping, my last company was American and I ran into many people from the US in the 3 years I was there. Spent 2 and a bit weeks in Cambridge MA in 1999. My experience is with Americans, you have to get to know them really well before piss taking is acceptable. When people would come to Australia to work with us they would get very offended with our standard office interaction. After a couple of weeks/months (depending on the individual) they not only became comfortable, they joined in the shit stirring. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Anyhow, my point is that if weapons were more regulated in the US, I think there would be less gun related killings. A nervous finger is a lot less dangerous if it's not on a trigger. This is one of those fanciful, but false "things". As an example, Florida had an extremely high crime rate in the recent past. This is a state with a lot of retirees and tourists, all easy targets. "You" would hear about car jackings, etc. Then a couple of years ago Florida passed a "right to carry" law. The crime rate went down. While there are many that would disagree, our constituition (via amendment) gives citizens the right to bare arms. My interpretation of this amendment, and others will disagree, is that this right was not put in place so folks could go hunting but to ensure that the citizens will not have to endure an oppressive government. Suppose that the government decided that everyone who had an Irish heritage could be put in railway cars and carted off to be .... The citizenry would have a way and the means to fight back. I get worried every time the government attempts to restrict this basic, constitutionally guaranteed right. Mike

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                                Mike Gaskey wrote: our constituition (via amendment) gives citizens the right to bear arms. And that is why people have to be so careful with spelling. The word is supposed to be BARE ( as in allowed to get a nice tan ) but one misspelling and a whole country goes nuts.


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                                  Ed Gadziemski wrote: I'm not familiar with this expression used this way, David. What's the translation? I'm not David, but I supose I will do. Taking the piss, is....Taking the piss. Very hard to explain, so I will use what I believe is an American sayinhg that means the same. Taking the mickey. Shit stirring, not taking it seriously. Something English and Australians do with friends and family almost instinctively. So prevelant now that it happens at work and with people you don't know. Not stereotyping, my last company was American and I ran into many people from the US in the 3 years I was there. Spent 2 and a bit weeks in Cambridge MA in 1999. My experience is with Americans, you have to get to know them really well before piss taking is acceptable. When people would come to Australia to work with us they would get very offended with our standard office interaction. After a couple of weeks/months (depending on the individual) they not only became comfortable, they joined in the shit stirring. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                  Michael Martin wrote: My experience is with Americans, you have to get to know them really well before piss taking is acceptable LOL! I've had more than my share of "mis-understandings" at work by pre-emptive piss taking. How long do you need to know someone before you call their mom names? The word abbreviation is awfully long for what it means.

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                                    you gotta be joking! :laugh: If you're serious, boy are we going to have some fun with you over the next few days.. ;P Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: you gotta be joking! I don't know what it means either. :-O Is it like "Taking the shit"? Which, in the US means pretty much being a scapegoat, ot getting picked-on. i.e.: "I'm not gonna take that shit from you!" or: "My wife's giving me shit for playing Warcraft all the time!" (which she does approve BTW, this is just an example) - Nitron


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                                      Michael Martin wrote: My experience is with Americans, you have to get to know them really well before piss taking is acceptable LOL! I've had more than my share of "mis-understandings" at work by pre-emptive piss taking. How long do you need to know someone before you call their mom names? The word abbreviation is awfully long for what it means.

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                                      Chris Austin wrote: How long do you need to know someone before you call their mom names? Don't know about England but in Australia people wouldn't get upset if you called their mother a name. I mean if you systematically and continually insulted her you would probably find a few teeth were popping out the back of your head. But the whole 'your momma wears army boots' mentality as seen in Bugs Bunny/Porky Pig banter and US kids movies of the 70's/80's just didn't exist. You never thought to insult someones mother, you insulted them direct. And if someone did insult your mother you would probably think :wtf: this blokes a wanker and feel sorry for him being a bit soft in the head. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                        Mike Gaskey wrote: our constituition (via amendment) gives citizens the right to bear arms. And that is why people have to be so careful with spelling. The word is supposed to be BARE ( as in allowed to get a nice tan ) but one misspelling and a whole country goes nuts.


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                                        PJ Arends wrote: word is supposed to be BARE ( LOL Regardz Colin J Davies

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                                          Michael Martin wrote: My experience is with Americans, you have to get to know them really well before piss taking is acceptable LOL! I've had more than my share of "mis-understandings" at work by pre-emptive piss taking. How long do you need to know someone before you call their mom names? The word abbreviation is awfully long for what it means.

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                                          Chris Austin wrote: How long do you need to know someone before you call their mom names? Here in NZ, the faster it happens means the faster you are accepted. If I was to go to work with someone and it didn't happen in an hour, I'd think it was a bit of a stressful place. I think we treat it like an ice-breaker of sorts. Also doing it in a real serious way is really accepted, with everyone breaking into laughter at the end. Like others here, I find American culture isn't similar at all. Regardz Colin J Davies

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