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World’s first cross-platform Web browser brought back to life

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  • K Keith Barrow

    The vanilla server version is like this, for most server applications you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI. Also this is only true if you need to know what you are doing in linux, which I don't. So the first thing I did was to Google the instructions to install the desktop environment...

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    I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Keith Barrow wrote:

    you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI

    One of the things I miss about Windows 95 is the ability to boot to DOS (even though I preferred working in Windows). Never quite got the hang of Linux since every company I've worked for avoided it like the plague.

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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      BTW, I took read to mean literally, as in using one's eyes for reading. Otherwise, server to client communication isn't actually reading if there's no humans involved and I'm assuming the text-based browser is for humans who would need a monitor to read the text (even remotely).

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      What you're missing is that olde skool command line based systems such as Unix & DOS are not designated as having a GUI[^]. Non-graphical is CLI[^].

      speramus in juniperus

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        What you're missing is that olde skool command line based systems such as Unix & DOS are not designated as having a GUI[^]. Non-graphical is CLI[^].

        speramus in juniperus

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        Bassam Abdul Baki
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        Yeah, I realized that in my response to someone else. :-O I was too busy seraching for an Asterix page while reading CP. Should really focus on one thing at a time.

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        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

          Keith Barrow wrote:

          you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI

          One of the things I miss about Windows 95 is the ability to boot to DOS (even though I preferred working in Windows). Never quite got the hang of Linux since every company I've worked for avoided it like the plague.

          Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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          Keith Barrow
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          Whenever I've used *NIX systems I've really like them, at one point (during my dissertation where the whole thing was done on the command prompt on terminal tools) I might even have raised above the level of newbie to errmm, just above newbie.At that time I could get by on the command prompt. That said I'm a .net dev by trade = microsoft stack at home, except for a couple of "play" VMs.

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          I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            Interesting article.[^] The following line, however, confused me. "Text-based Web browsers such as Elinks or Lynx remain useful even today in some circumstances, such as operating a Linux server without a graphical user interface." To read a command-line, you still need a GUI, whether you do it locally or remotely. How you choose to view it is up to you. Unless of course you're outputting the server information directly to a printer to read. Then you just need paper; lots and lots of paper.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

            To read a command-line, you still need a GUI

            Absolutely not. I telnet into my OpenVMS servers (unless I use my VT220). I have even written classes to allow code to telnet and perform tasks: CommScript[^]TelnetSocket[^]

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              Keith Barrow wrote:

              you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI

              One of the things I miss about Windows 95 is the ability to boot to DOS (even though I preferred working in Windows). Never quite got the hang of Linux since every company I've worked for avoided it like the plague.

              Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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              Forogar
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              You can still do this with XP and Windows 7 if you bring up the boot menu options.

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                You can still do this with XP and Windows 7 if you bring up the boot menu options.

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                The XP one was Safe Mode with Command Prompt options. Not quite the same. Now I'm on Windows 8 and haven't tried it yet.

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                • K Keith Barrow

                  The vanilla server version is like this, for most server applications you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI. Also this is only true if you need to know what you are doing in linux, which I don't. So the first thing I did was to Google the instructions to install the desktop environment...

                  PB 369,783 wrote:

                  I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                  AlphaDeltaTheta
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                  KDE? or Unity? I'm a great Unity hater. Yet another addition to my public hate-list.

                  Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    I'm assuming you're talking about sending or receiving commands to or from a Linux server? But to read anything from a server, a GUI has to exist somewhere in order for a browser (command-line or GUI-based) to work. How else would you read something without a GUI?

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    stdout. You're obviously far too young -- you want to stop that.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      Yeah, I realized that in my response to someone else. :-O I was too busy seraching for an Asterix page while reading CP. Should really focus on one thing at a time.

                      Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      [taps temple with forefinger] These system engineers are all crazy.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                        KDE? or Unity? I'm a great Unity hater. Yet another addition to my public hate-list.

                        Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                        Simon ORiordan from UK
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                        Now, Amitosh. You know what the doctor said about starting fights. And you only out on parole for a week. ;)

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                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                          To read a command-line, you still need a GUI

                          Absolutely not. I telnet into my OpenVMS servers (unless I use my VT220). I have even written classes to allow code to telnet and perform tasks: CommScript[^]TelnetSocket[^]

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                          Simon ORiordan from UK
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                          Telnet? Sociable of you. :-D

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            The XP one was Safe Mode with Command Prompt options. Not quite the same. Now I'm on Windows 8 and haven't tried it yet.

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                            SortaCore
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                            Yea, not quite the same. You could always type "explorer" and blow the ruse. And now in Windows 7 you can't even make a command prompt full-screen. :((

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                            • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                              KDE? or Unity? I'm a great Unity hater. Yet another addition to my public hate-list.

                              Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                              Keith Barrow
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                              Unity, KDE is for splitters. Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnndd that is the most of the problem with Linux in two posts.

                              PB 369,783 wrote:

                              I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                I'm assuming you're talking about sending or receiving commands to or from a Linux server? But to read anything from a server, a GUI has to exist somewhere in order for a browser (command-line or GUI-based) to work. How else would you read something without a GUI?

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                There are lots of embedded machines out there that use Telnet over Ethernet, or even RS-232 for command-line use.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  BTW, I took read to mean literally, as in using one's eyes for reading. Otherwise, server to client communication isn't actually reading if there's no humans involved and I'm assuming the text-based browser is for humans who would need a monitor to read the text (even remotely).

                                  Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                                  jonmbutler
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                                  Dude. Read = text, not graphics. I'm guessing you've never used or seen lynx. It's a text-based browser, the TEXT gets output to the console. No mouse, no clicking, no images, no GUI. Behold: http://bit.ly/1dZiqXE[^]

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