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  • C Christopher Duncan

    Paul Watson wrote: Surely you need more info though. Rail depth, depth of groove in train wheels, is Fat Bastard on the train, location of Biggs at the time etc. etc. Along with the average width of a horse's posterior as a constant, for validating the proper width of rail placement... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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    Christopher Duncan wrote: Along with the average width of a horse's posterior as a constant, for validating the proper width of rail placement... No kidding : the width of a horse is VERY important !!! :-) Did you know that the width of a horse's posterior is the origin of the size of the booster rockets of the Space Shuttle ??? In english : http://info.mountains.net.au/rail/horse-ass.htm[^] For french speakers : http://lwdr.free.fr/disjonctes.html#L'ESPACEMENT%20D'UN%20CUL%20DE%20CHEVAL[^] Jerome

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      Kastellanos Nikos wrote: What is the height of each vagon And how bad is the poetry? Oh. Sorry. Thought that was Vogon... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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      Christopher Duncan wrote: And how bad is the poetry? Oh. Sorry. Thought that was Vogon... uh, those greek QCERTY-type keyboards. They make you do all sort of strange mistakes... ;P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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        Christopher Duncan wrote: And how bad is the poetry? Oh. Sorry. Thought that was Vogon... uh, those greek QCERTY-type keyboards. They make you do all sort of strange mistakes... ;P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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        Andreas Saurwein
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        Kastellanos Nikos wrote: uh, those greek QCERTY-type keyboards. So you are programming in W++, right? :)


        powerful binary resource reuse - another word for "no sources, you are stuck with a pain-in-the-a## COM component"

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        • J Jerome Conus

          Hi ! I have a question about physics, and I though maybe someone from the CP community might be able to help me : Let's imagine a train, following a railway. The train has a speed S and arrives with this speed in a turn (of a given radius R). If the mass of the train is important, let's say it's mass is M. How can I calculate at which speed, the train will be too fast and will leave the rail ???? And, maybe the train won't leave the rail immediately at the beginning of the turn, but, let's say, somewhere in the middle of the turn. How can I calculate this position where the train will leave the rail ? Thank you !!! Jerome

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          With a bit of work you can probably get it down to 50 variables: Centre of gravity of train Camber of rails Amount of oil/grease/dirt on rails etc..... Elaine :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D

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            Hi ! I have a question about physics, and I though maybe someone from the CP community might be able to help me : Let's imagine a train, following a railway. The train has a speed S and arrives with this speed in a turn (of a given radius R). If the mass of the train is important, let's say it's mass is M. How can I calculate at which speed, the train will be too fast and will leave the rail ???? And, maybe the train won't leave the rail immediately at the beginning of the turn, but, let's say, somewhere in the middle of the turn. How can I calculate this position where the train will leave the rail ? Thank you !!! Jerome

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            The mass in this case is unimportant; the radius of the turn and the location of the center of mass are critical. The outer rail in the turn forms a constrained pivot point, while the inner is unconstrained. The line between the outer rail and the center of mass lies at an angle, Ø, with respect to the horizontal, so the gravitational acceleration can be resolved into a tangential component (directed inward) and a radial component (directed along the line toward the rail), both acting as though applied at the center of mass. The centripetal acceleration is horizontal, acting also through the center of mass, and can be resolved into a tangential component (directed outward) and a radial component (directed upward). This centripetal acceleration is given by ac = S2/R. The speed, Sc, at which the tangential acceleration due to gravity equals the tangential acceleration due to turning is critical. Any higher speed will cause the center of mass to be accelerated toward the outside of the turn, eventually causing the train to tip, as the net tangential acceleration will be toward the outside of the turn. Once the center of mass crosses the line of the outside rail, gravitational force alone will be sufficient to drop the train to the siding. Determining the point at which this occurs requires the mass, M, to be known, as the net tangential acceleration (resolved back into a horizontal component) will create a force directed sideways to move the center of mass the width of a horse's ass and beyond the balance point directly over the outer rail. The time required to accomplish this can be calculated, and yields the point on the curve's circumference where the train is inevitably doomed. The solution details are trivial, and are, as usual, left as an exercise for the student. :) It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
            Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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            • J Jerome Conus

              Hi ! I have a question about physics, and I though maybe someone from the CP community might be able to help me : Let's imagine a train, following a railway. The train has a speed S and arrives with this speed in a turn (of a given radius R). If the mass of the train is important, let's say it's mass is M. How can I calculate at which speed, the train will be too fast and will leave the rail ???? And, maybe the train won't leave the rail immediately at the beginning of the turn, but, let's say, somewhere in the middle of the turn. How can I calculate this position where the train will leave the rail ? Thank you !!! Jerome

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              Eddie Velasquez
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              Jerome Conus wrote: How can I calculate this position where the train will leave the rail ? It depends on how drunk the driver is. :)


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              • J Jerome Conus

                Christopher Duncan wrote: Along with the average width of a horse's posterior as a constant, for validating the proper width of rail placement... No kidding : the width of a horse is VERY important !!! :-) Did you know that the width of a horse's posterior is the origin of the size of the booster rockets of the Space Shuttle ??? In english : http://info.mountains.net.au/rail/horse-ass.htm[^] For french speakers : http://lwdr.free.fr/disjonctes.html#L'ESPACEMENT%20D'UN%20CUL%20DE%20CHEVAL[^] Jerome

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                The original comment apparently needed a smiley: http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.htm -- Eric Move along, nothing to see here.

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                  With a bit of work you can probably get it down to 50 variables: Centre of gravity of train Camber of rails Amount of oil/grease/dirt on rails etc..... Elaine :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote: Along with the average width of a horse's posterior as a constant, for validating the proper width of rail placement... No kidding : the width of a horse is VERY important !!! :-) Did you know that the width of a horse's posterior is the origin of the size of the booster rockets of the Space Shuttle ??? In english : http://info.mountains.net.au/rail/horse-ass.htm[^] For french speakers : http://lwdr.free.fr/disjonctes.html#L'ESPACEMENT%20D'UN%20CUL%20DE%20CHEVAL[^] Jerome

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Jerome Conus wrote: Did you know that the width of a horse's posterior is the origin of the size of the booster rockets of the Space Shuttle ??? Of course I knew that! Did you think I was just being a horse's ass? :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                      With a bit of work you can probably get it down to 50 variables: Centre of gravity of train Camber of rails Amount of oil/grease/dirt on rails etc..... Elaine :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D

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                      ...and don't forget the problems with leaves on the line, or the wrong type of snow. Debbie

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