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  • L Lost User

    As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    Microsoft retires hotmail doesn't mean your email address will "expire" or something. You can continue using your @hotmail.com address, and it will be supported. However, they're pushing people to use the @outlook.com address, and you can do what you want.

    "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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    • L Lost User

      As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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      OriginalGriff
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      When I last did it, I set up both accounts to read to different folders in Outlook - the new account to the Inbox, and the old account to a folder with the old email name: in your case I'd call it "Gmail". When anything appeared in the Gmail folder, I'd either reply and remind them of the new address or decide I didn't care to get messages from them any more. After three or six months, nothing I wanted any more was coming through so I deleted the account. You can also set up an auto-reply rule in Outlook to send a reminder automatically - but that can be risky if you ever receive spam! This shows you how: http://www.extendoffice.com/documents/outlook/498-outlook-auto-reply.html[^]

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      • L Lost User

        As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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        Lost User
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        Microsoft is/will be doing the same thing (maybe not the ads thing .. yet), they're just less transparent about it.

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        • L Lost User

          As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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          Valery Possoz
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          I don't think that it will provide you any benefit, it won't be long before Microsoft does the same... anyway on hotmail you can setup plenty of Aliases ie use different addresses pointing to the same one, so xx@outlook.co, xxx@live.com or what ever does not matter at all. Personally for proper stuffs I use my own domain emails, for all the rest I use a junk hotmail addresses and aliases, they can hack it, spy it to their heart content, it's just full of useless junk.

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            Microsoft retires hotmail doesn't mean your email address will "expire" or something. You can continue using your @hotmail.com address, and it will be supported. However, they're pushing people to use the @outlook.com address, and you can do what you want.

            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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            Forogar
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            Yes. I still have an @netscape.net email address from thousands of years back that now goes to aol.com - I don't use for anything except emergency backup for my gmail and hotmail/outlook accounts but it still works.

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            • L Lost User

              Microsoft is/will be doing the same thing (maybe not the ads thing .. yet), they're just less transparent about it.

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              GuyThiebaut
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              Yes - my first thought was Gmail to Hotmail is reminiscent of the frying pan and fire analogy.

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              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              • L Lost User

                As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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                AspDotNetDev
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                As mentioned above, an alternative approach would be to use your own domain rather than a specific email provider's domain. I currently use Exchange Online as my provider (I pay $8/month for unlimited storage, and unlimited aliases with one being designated as the alias I send emails from), but since I am using my own domain, I can always change my provider without changing my email address. As far as handling the people aspects, let people know your new address, if you have a contact list (making sure to BCC them, of course). Then, set an auto-reply to say "hey, this is an auto-reply to let you know my email has changed... contact me to get my new address" (don't indicate your new email address in the auto-reply, as that may lead to somebody unscrupulous getting their hands on it). Also, set your old address to forward emails to your new address. Or, in checklist form:

                1. Use a domain you own.
                2. BCC your contacts to let them know your new address (from your old address).
                3. Set an auto-reply to indicate the address is old.
                4. Auto-forward emails to the new address.
                5. Change all your accounts to use the new address.
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                • L Lost User

                  As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  My primary e-mail service is provided by a small company that is staffed by volunteers. In 10+ years, I've not had any problems with the service, and they're decent chaps, who I doubt would do more than laugh, if they got requests from people who have decided that protecting me means treating me as a criminal. IMO, smaller is better. The big boys have got enough income, and I trust them less.

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                  • R Ron Beyer

                    What I did last time was to set up an auto-reply to my contact list that would let them know I changed addresses. You can forward your email if you want or just look through and find the people you want to know and do a BCC mailing to tell everybody. You should also archive all your email somewhere so that when you turn off your account you have access to the stuff you had previously. As far as I know, yes, Microsoft is retiring hotmail and I would use the outlook.com address instead of the hotmail one (plus outlook.com sounds more professional than hotmail).

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                    Simon ORiordan from UK
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                    It doesn't matter what you change it to. The filth at 'IT Scam Board' will find it and bombard it.:mad:

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                    • L Lost User

                      As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Shameel wrote:

                      2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

                      when it launched i was able to get common.variant.of.my.name@outlook.com. I be astonished if was still available ~20 years after hotmail launched; so I'm all but certain hotmail users didn't get a free matching @outlook.com address.

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                      • L Lost User

                        As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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                        rnbergren
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                        I would go buy my own domain(fairly cheap) and setup my own email server in my house and use that. If your really worried. PS. I own my own domain. It works for me. Yes I actually pay for my email. But isn't that what it is. MY email?

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                        • L Lost User

                          As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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                          RafagaX
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                          If you're going to switch just for that, then better switch to a private email server with your own domain, if you read the terms of service of outlook.com and it didn't say that they share your information with advertiser, they could still share your information with US government (although this is true for any US based company), because they may be forced to by law.

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                          • L Lost User

                            As a direct result of the recent changes to Google's privacy terms where it belligerently states that it shares your personal information with the government and in advertisements (and hell knows where else), I have decided to change my primary email from gmail to hotmail (aka outlook). I already have a hotmail id that I created long ago and that used to be my primary id before I switched over to gmail. I have few questions about this transformation: 1. Does anyone have a checklist? What are the steps, precautions that needs to be taken? ( I mean things like letting your contacts know about it, etc., not the technical stuff) 2. What would be my email address? is it xxx@hotmail.com or xxx@outlook.com or it simply doesn't matter? I have tried and I received emails sent to both Ids in my inbox. Is MS trying to retire the hotmail alias? In that case I should start using outlook.com alias, right?

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                            Moshe Katz
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                            Shameel wrote:

                            it shares your personal information with the government

                            So does Microsoft

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                            and in advertisements

                            There is a link in the update notification to opt out. If you missed it there, here it is: https://plus.google.com/settings/endorsements?hl=en[^]

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                            • L Lost User

                              Microsoft is/will be doing the same thing (maybe not the ads thing .. yet), they're just less transparent about it.

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                              bobc4012
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                              Not only Microsoft, but Google and all the others. No such thing as a free lunch - you pay by letting them sell your ID to advertisers. NAI is a joke. You try to opt-out and some let you and others ignore it. What I don't like is they store any opt-out in a cookie instead of a "Do not send" database at the advertiserrs site. Erase the cookie and the opt-out disappears.

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                              • M Moshe Katz

                                Shameel wrote:

                                it shares your personal information with the government

                                So does Microsoft

                                Shameel wrote:

                                and in advertisements

                                There is a link in the update notification to opt out. If you missed it there, here it is: https://plus.google.com/settings/endorsements?hl=en[^]

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                                bobc4012
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                                Moshe Katz wrote:

                                Shameel wrote:

                                it shares your personal information with the government

                                So does Microsoft

                                Not only Microsoft, but Google and all the others. No such thing as a free lunch - you pay by letting them sell your ID to advertisers. NAI is a joke. You try to opt-out and some let you and others ignore it. What I don't like is they store any opt-out in a cookie instead of a "Do not send" database at the advertiserrs site. Erase the cookie and the opt-out disappears.

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