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  • D DaveAuld

    So now that a few of the die hards have probably been running with VS2013 for a while now and have been running the final release since it became available last week, is it in you opinion safe to uninstall VS2012? Or is there something fundamentally broken that says "no hang onto VS2012 that bit longer"? (I'm talking about PRO versions if that makes any difference). Cheers,

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    Dan Neely
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    I need to convince the bean counters to buy me a Resharper upgrade first. :sigh:

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    • R Rob Philpott

      I've just been reading about 'what's new in VS2013'. The only thing that caught my imagination is edit-and-continue in 64 bit. Is it worth upgrading?

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      Dan Neely
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      The improved lazy loading of solutions looks promising. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/10/14/asynchronous-solution-load-performance-improvements-in-visual-studio-2013.aspx[^]

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        Why uninstall it. I have all 2005-2008-2010-2012-2013 installed on same machine side-by-side. I think you have to ask yourself "should I install 2013?", in first place. 2013 has very few new things (for sure it's not a new version worth a whole number). I found two features useful: 1. Inline editing of referenced type (if it's in your code) - it nice but not a must have 2. 64 bit edit and continue (which is only good if you in win development) After playing around with it an reading about it I can tell you two main differences: 1. If you want the new framework you must have a new VS (it's not new, we saw it at every VS-.NET version) 2. MSBuild no more part of .NET framework (so the only way to build is use VS!) I have 20 years of experience with Microsoft - and the last 3 years I'm concerned about the way...

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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        Dan Neely
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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

        Why uninstall it. I have all 2005-2008-2010-2012-2013 installed on same machine side-by-side.

        I'm diskspace limited, and junk old versions whenever everything I had to support them for is updated to the newest version. Currently got 2003-2008-2010-2012 installed; and I'm hoping to get the last major 2003 project (finally) updated later this year. Hopefully I'll be able to boot 2008 within a year too.

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        • D DaveAuld

          So now that a few of the die hards have probably been running with VS2013 for a while now and have been running the final release since it became available last week, is it in you opinion safe to uninstall VS2012? Or is there something fundamentally broken that says "no hang onto VS2012 that bit longer"? (I'm talking about PRO versions if that makes any difference). Cheers,

          Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


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          Eric Whitmore
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          I am really looking forward to the AngularJS intellisense built into 2013.

          Eric

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          • D DaveAuld

            So now that a few of the die hards have probably been running with VS2013 for a while now and have been running the final release since it became available last week, is it in you opinion safe to uninstall VS2012? Or is there something fundamentally broken that says "no hang onto VS2012 that bit longer"? (I'm talking about PRO versions if that makes any difference). Cheers,

            Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


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            Bob1000
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            Installed it this morning absolute disaster! Even trying to create the most basic MFC program (just the Wizard project output) ends up with a stack of errors. Looks as though testing must be virtually non-existent for native code. 2012 was fine Seems to be pulling out 2010 include - fixable but a real mess! Microsoft the company that likes to disappoint.....

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            • D Dan Neely

              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

              Why uninstall it. I have all 2005-2008-2010-2012-2013 installed on same machine side-by-side.

              I'm diskspace limited, and junk old versions whenever everything I had to support them for is updated to the newest version. Currently got 2003-2008-2010-2012 installed; and I'm hoping to get the last major 2003 project (finally) updated later this year. Hopefully I'll be able to boot 2008 within a year too.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              IMO VS2013 is not less stable than 2012...

              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                IMO VS2013 is not less stable than 2012...

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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                Was this intended as a reply to me? I don't see how anything I wrote could be read as a comment on stability.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                • D Dan Neely

                  Was this intended as a reply to me? I don't see how anything I wrote could be read as a comment on stability.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  It's late afternoon here...:~

                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    It's late afternoon here...:~

                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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                    Dan Neely
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                    :beer: o'clock? Enjoy, it's only 10 in the morning here. :sigh:

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    • F Forogar

                      Yes, uninstall VS2012 and go back to VS2010, you'll be a lot happier.

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      vinipl87
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                      Right what I did! ;P

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                      • E Eric Whitmore

                        I am really looking forward to the AngularJS intellisense built into 2013.

                        Eric

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                        DaveAuld
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                        I haven't had a play with it yet, but yes, there are many improvements that were need to VS to handle native javascript and html/css projects better.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          Stick each in their own VM. Sorted.

                          speramus in juniperus

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                          DaveAuld
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                          fine on the desktop, but too much overhead for my wee ultrabook. Anyway, that is just giving in to defects......from an operational excellence point of view, 'tis bad!

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            Why uninstall it. I have all 2005-2008-2010-2012-2013 installed on same machine side-by-side. I think you have to ask yourself "should I install 2013?", in first place. 2013 has very few new things (for sure it's not a new version worth a whole number). I found two features useful: 1. Inline editing of referenced type (if it's in your code) - it nice but not a must have 2. 64 bit edit and continue (which is only good if you in win development) After playing around with it an reading about it I can tell you two main differences: 1. If you want the new framework you must have a new VS (it's not new, we saw it at every VS-.NET version) 2. MSBuild no more part of .NET framework (so the only way to build is use VS!) I have 20 years of experience with Microsoft - and the last 3 years I'm concerned about the way...

                            I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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                            DaveAuld
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                            I probably wont uninstall it on my desktop, but on my ultrabook I will when space gets tight.

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                            • F Forogar

                              Yes, uninstall VS2012 and go back to VS2010, you'll be a lot happier.

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              DaveAuld
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                              Oh no. I was happy going up to VS2012!

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                              • D DaveAuld

                                So now that a few of the die hards have probably been running with VS2013 for a while now and have been running the final release since it became available last week, is it in you opinion safe to uninstall VS2012? Or is there something fundamentally broken that says "no hang onto VS2012 that bit longer"? (I'm talking about PRO versions if that makes any difference). Cheers,

                                Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


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                                Member_5893260
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                                I've actually got 2010, 2012 and 2013 installed -- mainly because of other people: if I'm working on their code, I have to stick to whatever they're using... the good news is that all three of them seem to coexist just fine -- no problems yet...

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                                • D DaveAuld

                                  So now that a few of the die hards have probably been running with VS2013 for a while now and have been running the final release since it became available last week, is it in you opinion safe to uninstall VS2012? Or is there something fundamentally broken that says "no hang onto VS2012 that bit longer"? (I'm talking about PRO versions if that makes any difference). Cheers,

                                  Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


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                                  Plamen Dragiyski
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                                  Dunno for VS2012, but as a lesson from earlier versions, go grab some food and prepare for several hours for uninstalling.

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                                  • D DaveAuld

                                    So now that a few of the die hards have probably been running with VS2013 for a while now and have been running the final release since it became available last week, is it in you opinion safe to uninstall VS2012? Or is there something fundamentally broken that says "no hang onto VS2012 that bit longer"? (I'm talking about PRO versions if that makes any difference). Cheers,

                                    Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


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                                    Member 4608898
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                                    I normally run VS from a VM so I never have to uninstall them. Just get a new VM and run the new version. If you don't like it, junk the VM. If you like it, run the VMs in parallel. I still like VS9 (2008). It is so much better than VS10 (2010) and VS11(2012). It is also a lot faster. VS10, 11 and 12 are as slow as Eclipse i.e. they takes at least 2 minutes to start on a netbook. Compare that with the speed of VS6, 7.1, 8, 9 - they're up in about 10s!

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