Line Counts
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What concerns me is the number of exceptions that are thrown (silently) as the program runs.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Hopefully they are logged, rather than swallowed? He asked, fully assuming the complete opposite... :sigh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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After recovering from the mental whammy imposed by a 5-million line error, I wondered how many lines of code our current project was. The final count is 1,061,156. this number includes comments and blank lines because I consider them to be important parts of the coding process (comments tell a story about the code, and blank lines are organizational in nature, and therefore require a modicum of thought on the part of the programmer). BTW, there are just two developers assigned to this code base, and the line count only includes the desktop apps (there is a dashboard and a web portal as well).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
After recovering from the mental whammy imposed by a 5-million line error,
is this an ACA reference ?
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After recovering from the mental whammy imposed by a 5-million line error, I wondered how many lines of code our current project was. The final count is 1,061,156. this number includes comments and blank lines because I consider them to be important parts of the coding process (comments tell a story about the code, and blank lines are organizational in nature, and therefore require a modicum of thought on the part of the programmer). BTW, there are just two developers assigned to this code base, and the line count only includes the desktop apps (there is a dashboard and a web portal as well).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013On a good day I used to be able to type 100WPM. Not to say my day is all typing but if I wanted to churn out mounds of Government approved code that would be about a months to do a million lines. Really easy if you include comments generated by a tool and auto generated CRUD code. Add another developer and a million lines isn't so difficult to achieve. The true genius is doing the same thing in 80,000 readable lines : ) (Not implying anything just a related statement)
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Hopefully they are logged, rather than swallowed? He asked, fully assuming the complete opposite... :sigh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
I'd argue that thousands of exceptions in a log file isn't much better then silently swallowing them. It's interesting that interview questions often revolve around try/catch/finally. This bit is easy, its determining the flow of execution under errored conditions that is the tricky bit.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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After recovering from the mental whammy imposed by a 5-million line error, I wondered how many lines of code our current project was. The final count is 1,061,156. this number includes comments and blank lines because I consider them to be important parts of the coding process (comments tell a story about the code, and blank lines are organizational in nature, and therefore require a modicum of thought on the part of the programmer). BTW, there are just two developers assigned to this code base, and the line count only includes the desktop apps (there is a dashboard and a web portal as well).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The final count is 1,061,156
After clicking the 'show disassembly' button? :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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You realize there is a bug on line 768,321? :laugh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
Imagine a brace mismatch at line 249403. :omg: X|
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On a good day I used to be able to type 100WPM. Not to say my day is all typing but if I wanted to churn out mounds of Government approved code that would be about a months to do a million lines. Really easy if you include comments generated by a tool and auto generated CRUD code. Add another developer and a million lines isn't so difficult to achieve. The true genius is doing the same thing in 80,000 readable lines : ) (Not implying anything just a related statement)
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch
Well, write in Java, document getter and setters, done - application do nothing with more than 200,000 lines of code.
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Imagine a brace mismatch at line 249403. :omg: X|
That's why God made compilers.
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After recovering from the mental whammy imposed by a 5-million line error, I wondered how many lines of code our current project was. The final count is 1,061,156. this number includes comments and blank lines because I consider them to be important parts of the coding process (comments tell a story about the code, and blank lines are organizational in nature, and therefore require a modicum of thought on the part of the programmer). BTW, there are just two developers assigned to this code base, and the line count only includes the desktop apps (there is a dashboard and a web portal as well).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013We did a line count 3-4 years ago. We had 800K to 1.7M lines per product across five products, with some of the code shared between products, managed by a team of six. We've never placed much stock in lines of code, but it was a metric we needed for an IRS evaluation of our R&D program. They originally wanted a paper listing of everything we'd written over the preceding five year period. Snicker. We computed that printing the listing for all of the code would require a fairly standard roll of paper, 40 inches in diameter. It would have taken a little over an hour to print on one of our machines (we make commercial ink-jet printing systems). We were sorely tempted to do it, just so we could deliver this monstrosity to the IRS office. As it was, we delivered a spindle of ~100 DVD's plus a directory listing on paper of each disc which took up an entire case of letter paper. Bastards.
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Well, write in Java, document getter and setters, done - application do nothing with more than 200,000 lines of code.
write in C#, even shorter! ;P
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You realize there is a bug on line 768,321? :laugh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
And it's a white space bug, they're almost impossible to fix.
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Hopefully they are logged, rather than swallowed? He asked, fully assuming the complete opposite... :sigh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Logged? Why? Isn't empty catch blocks a good practice any more?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
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We did a line count 3-4 years ago. We had 800K to 1.7M lines per product across five products, with some of the code shared between products, managed by a team of six. We've never placed much stock in lines of code, but it was a metric we needed for an IRS evaluation of our R&D program. They originally wanted a paper listing of everything we'd written over the preceding five year period. Snicker. We computed that printing the listing for all of the code would require a fairly standard roll of paper, 40 inches in diameter. It would have taken a little over an hour to print on one of our machines (we make commercial ink-jet printing systems). We were sorely tempted to do it, just so we could deliver this monstrosity to the IRS office. As it was, we delivered a spindle of ~100 DVD's plus a directory listing on paper of each disc which took up an entire case of letter paper. Bastards.
Software Zen:
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Good practice is a messagebox that says, "The program was going to crash, but the programmer [insert name here] was too awesome to let that happen." Not to mention lots of smiley faces to show how much of a good thing it is.
Don't forget the cat picture. It always works. Or may be a link to pr0n website. Users tend forget all issues if we do that.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
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Don't forget the cat picture. It always works. Or may be a link to pr0n website. Users tend forget all issues if we do that.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
An animated cat gif, too. Don't forget to make the messageboxes recursive, in case the animation has an error. Moar Kittiezz!!!1!
d@nish wrote:
Or may be a link to pr0n website. Users tend forget all issues if we do that.
Obligatory Dilbert comic[^] :laugh:
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That's why God made compilers.
Software Zen:
delete this;God made compilers to imagine brace mismatches? I think we're really screwed...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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SortaCore wrote:
I wouldn't like to be the guy that has to review it, either way.
Are you kidding? We're talking about tax inspectors! They live for this stuff -- I'd bet the guy assigned to it cancelled his holidays, he was having so much fun.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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SortaCore wrote:
I wouldn't like to be the guy that has to review it, either way.
Are you kidding? We're talking about tax inspectors! They live for this stuff -- I'd bet the guy assigned to it cancelled his holidays, he was having so much fun.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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SortaCore wrote:
I wouldn't like to be the guy that has to review it, either way.
Are you kidding? We're talking about tax inspectors! They live for this stuff -- I'd bet the guy assigned to it cancelled his holidays, he was having so much fun.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I heard third-hand that they delivered the DVD's and the directory listing to the IRS, the IRS guy essentially checked a box on a form, and they dumped the whole mess in the secure shredder while our lawyer watched. We could have delivered a spindle of blank DVD's and a box of blank paper, and saved me a couple hours and our technician a couple weeks work (he did the DVD duplication and the directory listings).
Software Zen:
delete this;
