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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    I thought that went out of style? :-)

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      I've been hacking my way through CSS for years, just dealing with whatever the problem at hand was and moving on, so I wanted to go back to basics. Made it through this in one day and found it nicely done. CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland). I bought it because it wasn't CSS3 specific. It covers CSS in general, breaks out CSS3 and HTML5 so you can easily skip past if you're not supporting them, and has a nice organization & flow to it. I don't know the guy, but I've slogged through many a geek book that ended up being 30 pages of information, jam packed into a 500 page tome (tech books are typically sold by the pound). When I bump into one that's clean and well written, I figure I should share it with the rest of the class.

      Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      I've been hacking my way through CSS for years

      just give up and use tables

      "Coming soon"

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        I've been hacking my way through CSS for years, just dealing with whatever the problem at hand was and moving on, so I wanted to go back to basics. Made it through this in one day and found it nicely done. CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland). I bought it because it wasn't CSS3 specific. It covers CSS in general, breaks out CSS3 and HTML5 so you can easily skip past if you're not supporting them, and has a nice organization & flow to it. I don't know the guy, but I've slogged through many a geek book that ended up being 30 pages of information, jam packed into a 500 page tome (tech books are typically sold by the pound). When I bump into one that's clean and well written, I figure I should share it with the rest of the class.

        Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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        Most books I've read like that are VERY dry reading and mainly used as reference. I've run into the same problem with Photoshop, I'm on about my 5th one and it is of the "...missing manual" name/type also and is a very good book.

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          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          I've been hacking my way through CSS for years

          just give up and use tables

          "Coming soon"

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          :eek: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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            :eek: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

            Keep Clam And Proofread -- √(-1) 23 ∑ π... And it was delicious.

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            It’s going to take him just 45 minutes to undo the last several years worth of CSS work. He's going to launch his site. And then, he's going to go and get a donut.

            "Coming soon"

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I've been hacking my way through CSS for years, just dealing with whatever the problem at hand was and moving on, so I wanted to go back to basics. Made it through this in one day and found it nicely done. CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland). I bought it because it wasn't CSS3 specific. It covers CSS in general, breaks out CSS3 and HTML5 so you can easily skip past if you're not supporting them, and has a nice organization & flow to it. I don't know the guy, but I've slogged through many a geek book that ended up being 30 pages of information, jam packed into a 500 page tome (tech books are typically sold by the pound). When I bump into one that's clean and well written, I figure I should share it with the rest of the class.

              Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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              Marc Clifton
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              Christopher Duncan wrote:

              CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland).

              That looks great. I might be interested in the Javascript & jQuery book (and the HTML 5 one) as well. Thanks for pointing these out! Marc

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                .MarkMerrens
                {
                funny : no;
                }

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Really? I thought it amusing.

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Really? I thought it amusing.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                  amusing, yes. Funny, no. Yellow yes, blanched almond, no.

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    I've been hacking my way through CSS for years, just dealing with whatever the problem at hand was and moving on, so I wanted to go back to basics. Made it through this in one day and found it nicely done. CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland). I bought it because it wasn't CSS3 specific. It covers CSS in general, breaks out CSS3 and HTML5 so you can easily skip past if you're not supporting them, and has a nice organization & flow to it. I don't know the guy, but I've slogged through many a geek book that ended up being 30 pages of information, jam packed into a 500 page tome (tech books are typically sold by the pound). When I bump into one that's clean and well written, I figure I should share it with the rest of the class.

                    Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    Andy Brummer
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                    Missing Manual is a really good series. My wife really liked CSS: the missing manual when she read it a few years back.

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Really? I thought it amusing.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                      Christopher Duncan
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                      Maybe he just doesn't like your style.

                      Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                      • D devenv exe

                        It’s going to take him just 45 minutes to undo the last several years worth of CSS work. He's going to launch his site. And then, he's going to go and get a donut.

                        "Coming soon"

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                        Christopher Duncan
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                        Donut, hell. Try tequila. :)

                        Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                        • M mikepwilson

                          Nice, thanks o/ I've been looking to get my feet wet as we have a lot of web based hosted applications here and I'm a C++ weenie, but most CSS literature seems to belong in the bathroom ...along side the reading material.

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          Yeah, I started out with Borland's Turbo C, but these days it's all about the web. It's a crappy development environment, but at least you don't have all the install issues we used to fight.

                          Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            Most books I've read like that are VERY dry reading and mainly used as reference. I've run into the same problem with Photoshop, I'm on about my 5th one and it is of the "...missing manual" name/type also and is a very good book.

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                            Yeah, it was not only well written but also well edited. And trust me, having just wrapped up two books in the past few months, you have no idea how important it is to have a good editor (which I happily did). I think the missing manual series has a really good team.

                            Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland).

                              That looks great. I might be interested in the Javascript & jQuery book (and the HTML 5 one) as well. Thanks for pointing these out! Marc

                              Unit Testing Succinctly

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              I got this one for JQuery: JQuery Compressed[^]. Haven't started it yet so I can't speak to the quality. Would be interested in what you come up with. A glance at the TOC seems to indicate that JQuery isn't a terribly deep subject.

                              Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                Missing Manual is a really good series. My wife really liked CSS: the missing manual when she read it a few years back.

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                                Christopher Duncan
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                                Yeah, it looks like the series got bought out by O'Reilly - or maybe they had it all along. Either way, they've always been a good tech publisher so the quality isn't surprising.

                                Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                  Yeah, it was not only well written but also well edited. And trust me, having just wrapped up two books in the past few months, you have no idea how important it is to have a good editor (which I happily did). I think the missing manual series has a really good team.

                                  Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                  Mike Hankey
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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  And trust me, having just wrapped up two books in the past few months, you have no idea how important it is to have a good editor

                                  Yeah I could imagine you would be sensitive to that. It's always nice to read a book that's accurate and grammatically pleasing. :)

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                                    I got this one for JQuery: JQuery Compressed[^]. Haven't started it yet so I can't speak to the quality. Would be interested in what you come up with. A glance at the TOC seems to indicate that JQuery isn't a terribly deep subject.

                                    Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                    A glance at the TOC seems to indicate that JQuery isn't a terribly deep subject.

                                    It may not be terribly deep, but being rather clueless about it at the moment, it looks like a vast uncharted ocean. :) Marc

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                                      I've been hacking my way through CSS for years, just dealing with whatever the problem at hand was and moving on, so I wanted to go back to basics. Made it through this in one day and found it nicely done. CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland). I bought it because it wasn't CSS3 specific. It covers CSS in general, breaks out CSS3 and HTML5 so you can easily skip past if you're not supporting them, and has a nice organization & flow to it. I don't know the guy, but I've slogged through many a geek book that ended up being 30 pages of information, jam packed into a 500 page tome (tech books are typically sold by the pound). When I bump into one that's clean and well written, I figure I should share it with the rest of the class.

                                      Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                      Silvabolt
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                                      thx for sharing, I might just buy this book :) I think it's the same for me, I just figure out how to get something to look like the way I want, and move on without caring about css organization, structure, maintainability, etc... pretty bad I know...

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        Most books I've read like that are VERY dry reading and mainly used as reference. I've run into the same problem with Photoshop, I'm on about my 5th one and it is of the "...missing manual" name/type also and is a very good book.

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                                        Mike, for PhotoShop, try Deke McClelland's "PhotoShop One-on-One" books (his latest in the series is for PhotoShop CS5, and was published in 2010): [^]. bill

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                                          I've been hacking my way through CSS for years, just dealing with whatever the problem at hand was and moving on, so I wanted to go back to basics. Made it through this in one day and found it nicely done. CSS3: The Missing Manual[^] (David Sawyer McFarland). I bought it because it wasn't CSS3 specific. It covers CSS in general, breaks out CSS3 and HTML5 so you can easily skip past if you're not supporting them, and has a nice organization & flow to it. I don't know the guy, but I've slogged through many a geek book that ended up being 30 pages of information, jam packed into a 500 page tome (tech books are typically sold by the pound). When I bump into one that's clean and well written, I figure I should share it with the rest of the class.

                                          Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers (2nd ed, just released) Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living With Your Creativity (Due Nov 2013) The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                          Septimus Hedgehog
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                                          Thanks for the heads-up on those. I'm going to order the CSS3 and HTML5 books.:thumbsup: I have a couple of the "missing manual" books at home. They're nice quality and unlike those sell-by-the-pound books we're use to seeing, it's nice to see books that don't buckle the bookshelf. :)

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