Windows XP Proff. better than 98?
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DevHead wrote: 256 MB RAM I think you'll find that is your problem, IMO (and from experience) - Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable. Of course it does depend what XP is running in the background, do you have IIS running or other similiar services? Windows XP (apart from the Fisher Price Interface) is the best of Microsoft attempts at a windowing operating system. Michael Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman. All the world's waiting for you, and the power you possess. In your satin tights, Fighting for your rights And the old Red, White and Blue.
Michael P Butler wrote: Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable Holy crap, are you running weather sims again Butler? :-D I have 256 and find WXP to be perfectly useable. Couple that with my wheezy PIII 267 and I am even more impressed at WXP. Sure it does run slower than W2K what with all the nice Fisher Price stuff, but it is still very usable IMO. Of course I would not sneeze at 1gig of RAM. Just my 2 cents.
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My dad has Windows XP, on his computer it's slow though he has a P4 on 256 MB RAM, well he has lots of crap on it ;P, anywayz I think XP is worse than 98, I tried installing DivX 3.11A on it:mad: and it couldn't it has a serious problem with video support because XviD didnt work on it either.:omg: My opinion: XP sucks;P and now I want you opinion.
My opinion: I'd give up all my holidays for one year if the world unitedly decides to abandon Win 9x, and upgrades to W2K or XP.
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My dad has Windows XP, on his computer it's slow though he has a P4 on 256 MB RAM, well he has lots of crap on it ;P, anywayz I think XP is worse than 98, I tried installing DivX 3.11A on it:mad: and it couldn't it has a serious problem with video support because XviD didnt work on it either.:omg: My opinion: XP sucks;P and now I want you opinion.
try installing all the driver the right way on your xp machine, this really looks like a wrong IDE controller driver. i had this problem to, but wenn i installed all the driver right my P4 was faster than ever. DevHead wrote: I think XP is worse than 98 TRY THIS: burning a cd at 48x while watching a divx movie and downloading 6 files with kazaa(everyone knows how much cpu time kazaa needs) i bet that you 98 machine will stutter and freak out, while you xp system still has resources left(IF you install the drivers right) DevHead wrote: installing DivX 3.11A there is realy something screwed up with our configuration.... []D [] []D []
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DevHead wrote: 256 MB RAM I think you'll find that is your problem, IMO (and from experience) - Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable. Of course it does depend what XP is running in the background, do you have IIS running or other similiar services? Windows XP (apart from the Fisher Price Interface) is the best of Microsoft attempts at a windowing operating system. Michael Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman. All the world's waiting for you, and the power you possess. In your satin tights, Fighting for your rights And the old Red, White and Blue.
Michael P Butler wrote: IMO (and from experience) - Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable. Please X| It runs perfectly fine on 256MB. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Michael P Butler wrote: Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable Holy crap, are you running weather sims again Butler? :-D I have 256 and find WXP to be perfectly useable. Couple that with my wheezy PIII 267 and I am even more impressed at WXP. Sure it does run slower than W2K what with all the nice Fisher Price stuff, but it is still very usable IMO. Of course I would not sneeze at 1gig of RAM. Just my 2 cents.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?
I have 256 and find WXP to be perfectly useable. As soon as I installed VS.NET and fired it up, it sucked up almost all of the 256MB I had. Totally unusable, massive disk swapping within the IDE itself. Ugh. After upgrading to 512MB, everyone (namely ME) is now happy! I don't understand why they can't write an IDE that isn't such a hog. I mean, 256,000,000 bytes! I haven't looked at some of the competitor IDE's out there yet. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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My dad has Windows XP, on his computer it's slow though he has a P4 on 256 MB RAM, well he has lots of crap on it ;P, anywayz I think XP is worse than 98, I tried installing DivX 3.11A on it:mad: and it couldn't it has a serious problem with video support because XviD didnt work on it either.:omg: My opinion: XP sucks;P and now I want you opinion.
XP is awesome. Two things don't mix well with operating systems--parents and lots of crap legacy software. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files" -
My dad has Windows XP, on his computer it's slow though he has a P4 on 256 MB RAM, well he has lots of crap on it ;P, anywayz I think XP is worse than 98, I tried installing DivX 3.11A on it:mad: and it couldn't it has a serious problem with video support because XviD didnt work on it either.:omg: My opinion: XP sucks;P and now I want you opinion.
W98 is a living joke, a relic. Anything is better than that. I've played DivX on XP, so the problem is local to you, not XP overall. DevHead wrote: well he has lots of crap on it That's why it's slow. Any computer will run faster with a lesser OS, one that does less and looks ugly. That stands to reason. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma
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W98 is a living joke, a relic. Anything is better than that. I've played DivX on XP, so the problem is local to you, not XP overall. DevHead wrote: well he has lots of crap on it That's why it's slow. Any computer will run faster with a lesser OS, one that does less and looks ugly. That stands to reason. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma
Christian Graus wrote: Any computer will run faster with a lesser OS, one that does less and looks ugly. So if you were an OS you'd be faster than the speed of light? ;P Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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I have 256 and find WXP to be perfectly useable. As soon as I installed VS.NET and fired it up, it sucked up almost all of the 256MB I had. Totally unusable, massive disk swapping within the IDE itself. Ugh. After upgrading to 512MB, everyone (namely ME) is now happy! I don't understand why they can't write an IDE that isn't such a hog. I mean, 256,000,000 bytes! I haven't looked at some of the competitor IDE's out there yet. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Are you going to post this 256 times? Or 512? Or god forbid 1024? ;) (You are currently on 3, just 253 to go!) Marc Clifton wrote: As soon as I installed VS.NET and fired it up, it sucked up almost all of the 256MB I had. Totally unusable, massive disk swapping within the IDE itself. Ugh. After upgrading to 512MB, everyone (namely ME) is now happy! That is odd. I have VS.NET and it works quite fine. Obviously slower than VS6 but nothing drastic. Normally I have NEO (Outlook front-end), VS.NET, Word, Macromedia Fireworks, Windows Media Player, Trillian and IE open. On my machine they all work together quite fine. Swapping between them is fast, operations are on par. I have a 2 gig swap file and it is used. One other machine in the office is a PIII 300 and that is the only machine we had problems with WXP on. We bumped the mem up to 512 and it is now humming along fine. So I am not sure what you guys are up to, but WXP works fine on 256 RAM :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?
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Michael P Butler wrote: IMO (and from experience) - Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable. Please X| It runs perfectly fine on 256MB. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: It runs perfectly fine on 256MB. Indeed, not sure what those two are on about.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?
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Are you going to post this 256 times? Or 512? Or god forbid 1024? ;) (You are currently on 3, just 253 to go!) Marc Clifton wrote: As soon as I installed VS.NET and fired it up, it sucked up almost all of the 256MB I had. Totally unusable, massive disk swapping within the IDE itself. Ugh. After upgrading to 512MB, everyone (namely ME) is now happy! That is odd. I have VS.NET and it works quite fine. Obviously slower than VS6 but nothing drastic. Normally I have NEO (Outlook front-end), VS.NET, Word, Macromedia Fireworks, Windows Media Player, Trillian and IE open. On my machine they all work together quite fine. Swapping between them is fast, operations are on par. I have a 2 gig swap file and it is used. One other machine in the office is a PIII 300 and that is the only machine we had problems with WXP on. We bumped the mem up to 512 and it is now humming along fine. So I am not sure what you guys are up to, but WXP works fine on 256 RAM :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?
Are you going to post this 256 times? :-D The browser must have tried twice but never got a reply, then I tried again after getting a timeout message but then got the "it looks like this message is already posted" message. I have VS.NET and it works quite fine. Out of curiosity, is that system running IIS and SQL Server also? I was, and added the memory before setting at least SQL Server to manual start, but it didn't seem to have that big of a footprint (of course, I think TaskManager lies sometimes, or apps figure out how to fool it). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files" -
Anders Molin wrote: It runs perfectly fine on 256MB. Indeed, not sure what those two are on about.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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Paul Watson wrote: not sure what those two are on about. It's probably just the weekly "Windows XP sucks big time because Bill Gates have too much money" thing ;) Either that or: "XP sucks because there's a couple of changes from Win2k and I don't understand how they work" - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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My dad has Windows XP, on his computer it's slow though he has a P4 on 256 MB RAM, well he has lots of crap on it ;P, anywayz I think XP is worse than 98, I tried installing DivX 3.11A on it:mad: and it couldn't it has a serious problem with video support because XviD didnt work on it either.:omg: My opinion: XP sucks;P and now I want you opinion.
DevHead wrote: and now I want you opinion Don't ever consider a career in QA.
David Wulff
"David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson
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Are you going to post this 256 times? :-D The browser must have tried twice but never got a reply, then I tried again after getting a timeout message but then got the "it looks like this message is already posted" message. I have VS.NET and it works quite fine. Out of curiosity, is that system running IIS and SQL Server also? I was, and added the memory before setting at least SQL Server to manual start, but it didn't seem to have that big of a footprint (of course, I think TaskManager lies sometimes, or apps figure out how to fool it). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Marc Clifton wrote: Out of curiosity, is that system running IIS and SQL Server also? LOL ok there is your real problem, SQL. I have IIS on the go but no major apps in it. I have SQL tools installed of course but our SQL Server is on our actual main server box, not my local dev machine. So probably yes SQL running on your machine is the real culprit, that thing can kill a machine if it is doing anything intensive. It sure hammers our server. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?
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My dad has Windows XP, on his computer it's slow though he has a P4 on 256 MB RAM, well he has lots of crap on it ;P, anywayz I think XP is worse than 98, I tried installing DivX 3.11A on it:mad: and it couldn't it has a serious problem with video support because XviD didnt work on it either.:omg: My opinion: XP sucks;P and now I want you opinion.
I use a Celeron 1.8, 512 DDR RAM system. I used to have XP Professional installed on my PC about 2 months ago and ran everything (Photoshop, Premier, Visual Studio, Visio, Word, Access, Imesh, Kazaa, Gamespy, Nero, Internet Security, Antivirus, Netscape Navigator, MSN Messenger, ICQ, Yahoo IM, AIM, AOL, Media Player, plus IIS, SQL Server and other default services), at most 10 of em at the same time plus the standard window services and my pc slowed down of course...but it never crashed (although just Imesh crashed sometimes). I thought this slowing down was cause XP Professional was crap, so I did a bench test on 98, 2000 Professional n Advanced Server and XP (Professional that is, Home is a joke!). I installed everything mentioned above plus a little more. 2000 Advanced Server won, then 2000 Professional, then XP. 98 wasn't even visible at the end of the race cause it so far behind and so RUBBISH!!! I'm currently using 2000 Professional (Norton Anti Virus doesn't install on Advanced Server) since it proved to be the best OS for me to use. My conclusion...XP outdoes 98 in everyway....XP sucks only in the memory eating department...apart from that I prefer everything alse about XP than any other Windows OS. I've tried installing Nimo 5 Codec Pack on 2000 Professional already and there were installation problems, just thought I tell you since I know nothing about the codecs/video drivers side of things.
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I have 256 and find WXP to be perfectly useable. As soon as I installed VS.NET and fired it up, it sucked up almost all of the 256MB I had. Totally unusable, massive disk swapping within the IDE itself. Ugh. After upgrading to 512MB, everyone (namely ME) is now happy! I don't understand why they can't write an IDE that isn't such a hog. I mean, 256,000,000 bytes! I haven't looked at some of the competitor IDE's out there yet. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Funny. I have XP running on PIII 700 with 256 MB and it works fine. I can run multiple instances of VS.NET with no problems. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
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Oh yeah, this might not fit with the topic, but sometimes when I start Windows 98, it says the thing about "Error in system registry." I've had experiences that you shouldn't have Microsoft Plus! installed when that happens, it totally screws everything up, I still don't know the cause of the error though. What's the deal!? When it happens I just format my pc and throw my Ghost backup and it's fixed again.
I had a PC that developed the same error, and no matter how often I re-installed Win98, the same message appeared every time it booted. I installed Linux and never had another problem with it.;P It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
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DevHead wrote: 256 MB RAM I think you'll find that is your problem, IMO (and from experience) - Windows XP needs at least 512 and probably 1gb to be useable. Of course it does depend what XP is running in the background, do you have IIS running or other similiar services? Windows XP (apart from the Fisher Price Interface) is the best of Microsoft attempts at a windowing operating system. Michael Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman. All the world's waiting for you, and the power you possess. In your satin tights, Fighting for your rights And the old Red, White and Blue.
I love it when it puts 880 MB into the system cache.
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try installing all the driver the right way on your xp machine, this really looks like a wrong IDE controller driver. i had this problem to, but wenn i installed all the driver right my P4 was faster than ever. DevHead wrote: I think XP is worse than 98 TRY THIS: burning a cd at 48x while watching a divx movie and downloading 6 files with kazaa(everyone knows how much cpu time kazaa needs) i bet that you 98 machine will stutter and freak out, while you xp system still has resources left(IF you install the drivers right) DevHead wrote: installing DivX 3.11A there is realy something screwed up with our configuration.... []D [] []D []
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DevHead wrote: and now I want you opinion Don't ever consider a career in QA.
David Wulff
"David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson