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  • C Colin Rae

    This is the last time I'm posting this...! :) http://qntm.org/uk[^]

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    Andrew Torrance
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    I agree with that but some of my Dublin friends refuse to acknowledge that Ireland is in the British Isles .

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      And on a lighter note... I've noticed it's common for people who live in, say, London to speak of living in the UK rather than England. Is it somehow politically incorrect to reference England rather than the grand and glorious empire of the United Kingdom? Or is it just fewer characters to type UK? :)

      Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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      I am British, I live in the UK. English is a language, not a nationality, and England, Scotland and Wales are only countries for some sporting purposes.

      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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      • R Rob Philpott

        Well, the word comes English comes from Anglo-Saxon and I believe they are the main influence. As I understand it the Celts who were here before have a hispanic heritage and fled to the extremities of Scotland and Wales. There's bin a bit of inter-breeding since then, so who know now?

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        Rob Philpott wrote:

        Well, the word comes English comes from Anglo-Saxon

        Specifically it comes from the Angles, and not the Saxons. The Angles were just a smaller Germanic tribe that settled here, the Saxons were much larger so why we got named after them instead no-one seems to be sure.

        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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        • R Rob Philpott

          Well, the word comes English comes from Anglo-Saxon and I believe they are the main influence. As I understand it the Celts who were here before have a hispanic heritage and fled to the extremities of Scotland and Wales. There's bin a bit of inter-breeding since then, so who know now?

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          hispanic

          "Hispanic" does not mean Latin origin, it means Spanish(ish) which is a subset of the Latin originals. For example, people from Italy are not Hispanic but are of Latin origin. The Celts originated from Asia Minor and central Europe (around the northern Danube area) so aren't very Spanish in origin either. Obviously there is a lot of cross breeding in everyone's past so being precise is impossible. I am technically English but could be called half English, half Scottish (or more precisely two-quarters Scottish) as both my grandmothers were Scottish - but then one (or both of them) may be part Viking so I might have some Norwegian, Swedish or other snowy-landscaped ancestry - perhaps some roaming Mongolian got involved way in the past! I may be Celtic, Anglo-Saxon or possibly Pict; who cares really? I think of myself as English, British, European and Human (possibly Solarian).

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          • C Christopher Duncan

            "...rural yokels who spend too much time with their sheep." :laugh:

            Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            "...rural yokels who spend too much time with their sheep."

            Or "Griff", for short.

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              I live in England, but I am British; my Mother is Irish and Dad Irish/Scot[ch]. I [generally] use the country, England, rather than the whole United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as it's shorted. If I'm in a hurry it's UK. While on this subject, I wish web nobs could work out the difference between nationality and country. I am sick of seeing a drop down for Nationality and have "United Kingdom", it should be "British" or titled differently.

              speramus in juniperus

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              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

              my Mother is Irish and Dad Irish/Scot[ch][s]

              Although, if he read that, a better description would probably be "scot[kicking Nagy's @rse]".

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              • C Christopher Duncan

                And on a lighter note... I've noticed it's common for people who live in, say, London to speak of living in the UK rather than England. Is it somehow politically incorrect to reference England rather than the grand and glorious empire of the United Kingdom? Or is it just fewer characters to type UK? :)

                Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                England would probably lose on penalties, as always.

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  England would probably lose on penalties, as always.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  England would probably lose on penalties, as always.

                  :-D

                  If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                  • L Lost User

                    I am British, I live in the UK. English is a language, not a nationality, and England, Scotland and Wales are only countries for some sporting purposes.

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                    ChrisElston wrote:

                    I am British

                    No you're not. At the risk of stepping on MM's toes, down here you are either a "pom", a "pommie bastard" or a "f**ken pommie bastard" depending on what kind of mood we're in. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                    If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                    • M Mark H2

                      ChrisElston wrote:

                      I am British

                      No you're not. At the risk of stepping on MM's toes, down here you are either a "pom", a "pommie bastard" or a "f**ken pommie bastard" depending on what kind of mood we're in. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                      If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                      :laugh: Fair enough. Don't remember having those options on the forms I fill out though.

                      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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