Sure it's a publicity stunt
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You don't go near QA that often, do you? :laugh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
That's populated by the other nine in ten.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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But it's a publicity stunt with a great reason and output: Microsoft giving away free IT training -- and a job -- to soldiers[^] On Monday, Microsoft said it will offer a free 16-week IT course for soldiers transitioning out of the military into civilian life—with a guaranteed job at the end of it.
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Does this mean thaty there will finally be an FPS where you don't need to use eleven fingers, three toes, your nose, and the dog's left ear to aim and fire a gun? "Hey, Man, pointin' an' shootin' ain't that hard!"
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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But it's a publicity stunt with a great reason and output: Microsoft giving away free IT training -- and a job -- to soldiers[^] On Monday, Microsoft said it will offer a free 16-week IT course for soldiers transitioning out of the military into civilian life—with a guaranteed job at the end of it.
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But it's a publicity stunt with a great reason and output: Microsoft giving away free IT training -- and a job -- to soldiers[^] On Monday, Microsoft said it will offer a free 16-week IT course for soldiers transitioning out of the military into civilian life—with a guaranteed job at the end of it.
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I'm walking backwards for Christmas! :laugh:
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Oh, I dunno...it gives us a chance to get a few...um...ideas in there...:InnocentWhistleSmiley:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
Like building a Codeproject ATF (Anti Troll Force)? :laugh:
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I agree that it seems like a good thing they're doing. Obviously they're doing it at least partly for their own reasons, but, hopefully some of those jobs turn into long term careers for the soldiers.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Would you want your code written by a developer with just a 16 week course behind him? X|
On a side note, since when do software testers write code?
Quote via linked article:
At the end of the course, Microsoft said, participants will be hired as software testers
"The computer industry is the only industry that is more fashion-driven than women's fashion. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about. What is it? It's complete gibberish. It's insane. When is this idiocy going to stop?" -- Oracle CEO Larry Ellison
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So Windows 9 will lose the user-unfriendly aspects of Win 8, in favour of user hostile? No more *beep* when you press the wrong button, the OS calls in an air strike... It's a good idea - but I suspect you're right about the publicity stunt aspect rather than real work for most of them. Would you want your code written by a developer with just a 16 week course behind him? X|
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
You might be on to something... I'm seeing a 'Premium' add on for MS Security Essentials that not only clears/quarantines the virus, it launches a strike on the command and control servers.
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But it's a publicity stunt with a great reason and output: Microsoft giving away free IT training -- and a job -- to soldiers[^] On Monday, Microsoft said it will offer a free 16-week IT course for soldiers transitioning out of the military into civilian life—with a guaranteed job at the end of it.
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This was my idea! I tried to offer free coding lessons to soldiers on craigslist. 0 responses but still...maybe ill repost it.
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This was my idea! I tried to offer free coding lessons to soldiers on craigslist. 0 responses but still...maybe ill repost it.
Are you sure you were offering coding lessons? Maybe you typed coddling lessons? Or maybe you should type it that way, and you'll get some responses. :-D
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Would you want your code written by a developer with just a 16 week course behind him? X|
First of course there is the fact that they are going to be hired as software testers not developers. Second of course how is that different, than for example hiring someone with a English degree to do it? Or hiring a number of 'interns' over several years without supervision and all with just a few years of college and none of which spends more than a couple of years on the project? Or the expectation that one can hire a college graduate, who has an engineering degree, but no real work experience and expect them to take on developer roles, again with little or no supervision (and no coherent process control either.) I have certainly seen all of those either in practice or discussed and they can in fact produce something that is usable. Or not. Third do you have a technical requirement that will in fact guarantee that a developer will not only succeed but do so with excellence? If so I would certainly like to hear about it.
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I agree that it seems like a good thing they're doing. Obviously they're doing it at least partly for their own reasons, but, hopefully some of those jobs turn into long term careers for the soldiers.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Would you want your code written by a developer with just a 16 week course behind him? X|
On a side note, since when do software testers write code?
Quote via linked article:
At the end of the course, Microsoft said, participants will be hired as software testers
"The computer industry is the only industry that is more fashion-driven than women's fashion. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about. What is it? It's complete gibberish. It's insane. When is this idiocy going to stop?" -- Oracle CEO Larry Ellison
MikoTheTerrible wrote:
On a side note, since when do software testers write code?
Actually, on several occasions I have been hired as a tester and ended up modifying code and was expected to do so. In order to properly do white-box testing, the tester must have a good grasp of coding. Going where no-one has gone before has been a tried and true method of finding bugs as well as acting like a complete moron. Sometimes, you just see the behavior and immediately know the logic error that was made. Of course, the developer should fix his/her error in that case.
MikoTheTerrible wrote:
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
An eminent qualification for a tester. :-D
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It would be nice if they'd give free training and jobs to all the Silverlight developers they are putting out of business.
1. Unfortunately, Silverlight developers have not given their lives for their country, nor put their lives on the line for their country. This is a great thanks for all of those who served and defended their countries. Many service personnel exiting the armed services do not have the skills to get a good paying job when they leave the military. This will help them along the way. 2. IT jobs may have very minor programming involved. Mostly, it will be fixing PCs and call center help. But, it's a start.
