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Does anyone remember Remembrance Day?

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  • G G Tek

    First of all, I understand that Code Project is, first and foremost, a site for developers and that its responsibilities do not include commentary on non-developer related events. That being said, it is my personal opinion that a site and newsletter that has such a large following has the privileged opportunity to pass on a small message of remembrance. Unlike Christmas, Easter, or other holidays through the year, Remembrance Day is recognized in some form in many countries through the world, is non-political and non-denominational so it shouldn't create conflicts within the CP membership and can be done without offending anyone from the numerous regions, cultures, political views, and religions that make up the CP membership. It is important to recognize both the commitment and sacrifice of those past and present that served to protect us. So I respectfully request that the great people that make up the CP team please consider making just a small mention of remembrance on future November 11ths.

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Not this year, but when I was in Hungary I went to the Solymar Cemetery[^] each year for the Rememberence Service lead by the British Ambassador. One year it was bitterly cold and as the Bugler started The Last Post the snow began to fall...

    speramus in juniperus

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      And it isn't observed at all in Germany for some strange reason...

      The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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      G Tek
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      Correct, though they do have their own days of mourning and commemoration (from Wiki "in practice this is the Sunday closest to 16 November").

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        And it isn't observed at all in Germany for some strange reason...

        The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Here you are wrong. There are many Commonwealth War Graves in Germany and at each and every cemetery there is a service. This applies throughout the World; maybe the countries don't observe it, but someone always will.

        speramus in juniperus

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        • D DaveAuld

          I am sure that there was an upated logo last year. I also here what you say about "it shouldn't cause offence", however in todays world, there is always someone upset/offended about something.

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          G Tek
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          I totally agree - unfortunately it is way too easy to cause offense these days. Which is why I initially hesitated before posting. I ultimately decided to post because it is something that I feel strongly about and regardless of how an individual may pay tribute to remembrance, I think it is important that we recognize what the day is. Can't we all just get along when trying to remember those who fought and died without getting into race, religion, politics, etc? With regards to logo - I honestly can't remember. That's a great and (hopefully) non-offensive way of marking the calendar day.

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          • G G Tek

            I totally agree - unfortunately it is way too easy to cause offense these days. Which is why I initially hesitated before posting. I ultimately decided to post because it is something that I feel strongly about and regardless of how an individual may pay tribute to remembrance, I think it is important that we recognize what the day is. Can't we all just get along when trying to remember those who fought and died without getting into race, religion, politics, etc? With regards to logo - I honestly can't remember. That's a great and (hopefully) non-offensive way of marking the calendar day.

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            Marco Bertschi
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            G-Tek wrote:

            That's a great and (hopefully) non-offensive way of marking the calendar day.

            They had a logo change for the US independence Day - So I guess the remembrance day logo change was just a victim of Chris' reelecting of the days causing a logo change.

            The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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            • G G Tek

              First of all, I understand that Code Project is, first and foremost, a site for developers and that its responsibilities do not include commentary on non-developer related events. That being said, it is my personal opinion that a site and newsletter that has such a large following has the privileged opportunity to pass on a small message of remembrance. Unlike Christmas, Easter, or other holidays through the year, Remembrance Day is recognized in some form in many countries through the world, is non-political and non-denominational so it shouldn't create conflicts within the CP membership and can be done without offending anyone from the numerous regions, cultures, political views, and religions that make up the CP membership. It is important to recognize both the commitment and sacrifice of those past and present that served to protect us. So I respectfully request that the great people that make up the CP team please consider making just a small mention of remembrance on future November 11ths.

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              bVagadishnu
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              listening to veterans planning which restaurants they will eat at today as many give veterans a free meal today. Remembering 40 years ago when returning veterans were spat upon. Times have changed.

              Send lawyers, guns and money

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              • G G Tek

                Correct, though they do have their own days of mourning and commemoration (from Wiki "in practice this is the Sunday closest to 16 November").

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                G-Tek wrote:

                16 November

                What an awesome day of the year that is.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                • G G Tek

                  First of all, I understand that Code Project is, first and foremost, a site for developers and that its responsibilities do not include commentary on non-developer related events. That being said, it is my personal opinion that a site and newsletter that has such a large following has the privileged opportunity to pass on a small message of remembrance. Unlike Christmas, Easter, or other holidays through the year, Remembrance Day is recognized in some form in many countries through the world, is non-political and non-denominational so it shouldn't create conflicts within the CP membership and can be done without offending anyone from the numerous regions, cultures, political views, and religions that make up the CP membership. It is important to recognize both the commitment and sacrifice of those past and present that served to protect us. So I respectfully request that the great people that make up the CP team please consider making just a small mention of remembrance on future November 11ths.

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Oi don' loike Dutch painters, Mate.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • G G Tek

                    Hi Pete - thank you for your feedback, though I respectfully disagree. A birthday is a personal thing. And I totally agree that individually we may have different personal thoughts or memories related to remembrance, ranging from relatives who have fought, those currently serving, or simply a solemn respect for those who died. I was not suggesting that all CP members participate in a moment of silence (which would be a personal choice), rather I was just suggesting that we recognize that today is Remembrance Day. The manner in which an individual personally pays tribute to remembrance does not change the importance of the act itself. Remembrance Day, Armistice Day, Veteran's Day, etc. are days intended to signify (again, without relation to religion, political affiliation, etc.) respect through the simple act of remembrance and, in my humble opinion, is one that should easily transgress borders in all their forms and one with which all individuals should be able to relate in some form. Lest we forget... You are most certainly correct in saying that not all nations have the same fixed point for Remembrance Day; however, November 11th is a common date for many and marks the armistice of the first World War so is a logical date. Not to mention that CP is Canadian :) But I'll get off my soapbox now - not trying to start a flame war on Remembrance Day :)

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                    G-Tek wrote:

                    rather I was just suggesting that we recognize that today is Remembrance Day.

                    And I disagree that it is. Today is Armistice Day, yesterday was Remembrance Sunday. In the UK, for me at least, they are slightly different things.

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                      Oi don' loike Dutch painters, Mate.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      Have you been to the Coffee Shop again?

                      speramus in juniperus

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                        Have you been to the Coffee Shop again?

                        speramus in juniperus

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                        Zoider faaaacktry mor loike.

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                        I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                          Zoider faaaacktry mor loike.

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                          I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Oiz loike zoider, but zoider makez moi legz holler.

                          speramus in juniperus

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                            Oiz loike zoider, but zoider makez moi legz holler.

                            speramus in juniperus

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                            If youm go' 'ollow legz, youm go' more room for coider!

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            • G G Tek

                              First of all, I understand that Code Project is, first and foremost, a site for developers and that its responsibilities do not include commentary on non-developer related events. That being said, it is my personal opinion that a site and newsletter that has such a large following has the privileged opportunity to pass on a small message of remembrance. Unlike Christmas, Easter, or other holidays through the year, Remembrance Day is recognized in some form in many countries through the world, is non-political and non-denominational so it shouldn't create conflicts within the CP membership and can be done without offending anyone from the numerous regions, cultures, political views, and religions that make up the CP membership. It is important to recognize both the commitment and sacrifice of those past and present that served to protect us. So I respectfully request that the great people that make up the CP team please consider making just a small mention of remembrance on future November 11ths.

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                              Tim Carmichael
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                              Being from Canada, it is Rememberance day; living in the U.S., it is Veterans Day. Regardless of the name attached to a day, I salute those brave people who fought for my freedom, even if it was before I was born. My grandfather, E. T. Carmichael served overseas during W.W. I, and worked on the Gander, NL airport construction during W.W. II My uncles, C. Carmichael, G. Ellerton and F. Pascal served overseas during W.W. II My friend, D. Davis, wno served in the U.S. Army and will be having lunch with my daughter and myself today. My thanks on behalf of my self and my family. Tim Carmichael

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                                G-Tek wrote:

                                rather I was just suggesting that we recognize that today is Remembrance Day.

                                And I disagree that it is. Today is Armistice Day, yesterday was Remembrance Sunday. In the UK, for me at least, they are slightly different things.

                                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                G Tek
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                                If you read the sentiment and facts of the entire message I have acknowledged that it may be called different things in different places (be it Armistice Day, Veteran's Days, Remembrance Day, etc.) but what is important is not what each nation may call it, rather that it is being recognized. So please allow me to reword the above in a manner which shouldn't cause disagreement: "rather I was just suggesting that now is a time of remembrance".

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                                • G G Tek

                                  First of all, I understand that Code Project is, first and foremost, a site for developers and that its responsibilities do not include commentary on non-developer related events. That being said, it is my personal opinion that a site and newsletter that has such a large following has the privileged opportunity to pass on a small message of remembrance. Unlike Christmas, Easter, or other holidays through the year, Remembrance Day is recognized in some form in many countries through the world, is non-political and non-denominational so it shouldn't create conflicts within the CP membership and can be done without offending anyone from the numerous regions, cultures, political views, and religions that make up the CP membership. It is important to recognize both the commitment and sacrifice of those past and present that served to protect us. So I respectfully request that the great people that make up the CP team please consider making just a small mention of remembrance on future November 11ths.

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  I think that would be political in nature given the events that happened on that day and the antagonists involved.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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                                    I think that would be political in nature given the events that happened on that day and the antagonists involved.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                    G Tek
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                                    Perhaps I'm being naïve. My thinking is that that the act of remembering others is important regardless of which side of a particular border that you happen to be. Do the British take personal offense every 4th of July (perhaps they do - I don't know!)? Of course I recognize that there (at least) two sides to every story, but I guess I'm just hopeful that we could come together in recognizing and remembering those who fought and those we may have lost without it becoming more than that. There's no political agenda here - just the act of remembering.

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                                    • G G Tek

                                      First of all, I understand that Code Project is, first and foremost, a site for developers and that its responsibilities do not include commentary on non-developer related events. That being said, it is my personal opinion that a site and newsletter that has such a large following has the privileged opportunity to pass on a small message of remembrance. Unlike Christmas, Easter, or other holidays through the year, Remembrance Day is recognized in some form in many countries through the world, is non-political and non-denominational so it shouldn't create conflicts within the CP membership and can be done without offending anyone from the numerous regions, cultures, political views, and religions that make up the CP membership. It is important to recognize both the commitment and sacrifice of those past and present that served to protect us. So I respectfully request that the great people that make up the CP team please consider making just a small mention of remembrance on future November 11ths.

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                                      glennPattonPub
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                                      I always do make the effort for the 2 minute silence on the 11th, before/after observing (Sunday) the service from London. For some odd reason this year I couldn't. Feelin' guilty!

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                                      • G G Tek

                                        Perhaps I'm being naïve. My thinking is that that the act of remembering others is important regardless of which side of a particular border that you happen to be. Do the British take personal offense every 4th of July (perhaps they do - I don't know!)? Of course I recognize that there (at least) two sides to every story, but I guess I'm just hopeful that we could come together in recognizing and remembering those who fought and those we may have lost without it becoming more than that. There's no political agenda here - just the act of remembering.

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        I don't disagree, just saying it is political. Anything where two or more people are involved is automatically political.

                                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          G-Tek wrote:

                                          rather I was just suggesting that we recognize that today is Remembrance Day.

                                          And I disagree that it is. Today is Armistice Day, yesterday was Remembrance Sunday. In the UK, for me at least, they are slightly different things.

                                          “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                          H Brydon
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                                          Yesterday was my anniversary; today is remembrance day.

                                          Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey

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