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  • L Lost User

    I don't really get it either (you can point a gun at the target, congratulations) but what I get even less is the outrage. She's been hunting large animals for years, and no one gave a shit. Suddenly it's the biggest problem since Kony.

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    ZurdoDev
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    She's been hunting large animals for years

    I would have to imagine most people are like me and had never heard of her before.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      She's been hunting large animals for years

      I would have to imagine most people are like me and had never heard of her before.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Lost User
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      Me neither. We're only hearing about her now because of the outrage, which is in turn fueled by people just hearing about her for the first time, etc. It's a nice positive-feedback process, but as far as I can tell there was no reason for it to begin.

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      • L Lost User

        I don't really get it either (you can point a gun at the target, congratulations) but what I get even less is the outrage. She's been hunting large animals for years, and no one gave a shit. Suddenly it's the biggest problem since Kony.

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        Lost User
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        harold aptroot wrote:

        but what I get even less is the outrage. She's been hunting large animals for years, and no one gave a sh*t. Suddenly it's the biggest problem since Kony.

        Welcome to the year 2013 where social media drives social reform.

        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          There's a photo going around, http://abcnews.go.com/US/hunting-star-stirs-outrage-posting-photo-dead-lion/story?id=20911636[^], of some lady hunter smiling over a dead lion. Why do hunters feel the need to smile and take pictures? I get that it's a trophy but you used a gun. What's the big deal to get so prideful about? Yes, I know, there is technique in stalking, etc, but what kind of messed up ego do you have to have to boast about killing something with a gun? If you kill it Rambo style with a knife then OK, you have bragging rights. I don't think you should hunt at all unless for food. I just don't get it. I have a good friend who I let hunt deer on my property but he doesn't take pictures and post them and we eat the meat.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          jschell
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          RyanDev wrote:

          but what kind of messed up ego do you have to have to boast about killing something with a gun

          Presumably you must have been living in a remote cave for the last 10-15 years if you think that there is something unusual about taking a picture of that versus the vast, vast number of photos of absolutely random stuff that people take with their phones.

          RyanDev wrote:

          I don't think you should hunt at all unless for food. I just don't get it.

          And do you understand every human activity? For example hot dog eating contests? Those make perfect sense to you? What about riding a snowboard down the railing of a stair (obviously no snow)? Or more specifically failing to do that and then taking a movie of the failure and posting that? I have seen a full production release of a movie which spent quite a bit of time on the failures of doing just that.

          RyanDev wrote:

          I have a good friend who I let hunt deer on my property but he doesn't take pictures and post them and we eat the meat.

          How should the rest of the human race submit their activity requests to you so you can give it your official approval?

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            To your email, yes I am.

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            drolfson
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            Cool! :thumbsup::thumbsup: There should be more of us.

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            • J jschell

              RyanDev wrote:

              but what kind of messed up ego do you have to have to boast about killing something with a gun

              Presumably you must have been living in a remote cave for the last 10-15 years if you think that there is something unusual about taking a picture of that versus the vast, vast number of photos of absolutely random stuff that people take with their phones.

              RyanDev wrote:

              I don't think you should hunt at all unless for food. I just don't get it.

              And do you understand every human activity? For example hot dog eating contests? Those make perfect sense to you? What about riding a snowboard down the railing of a stair (obviously no snow)? Or more specifically failing to do that and then taking a movie of the failure and posting that? I have seen a full production release of a movie which spent quite a bit of time on the failures of doing just that.

              RyanDev wrote:

              I have a good friend who I let hunt deer on my property but he doesn't take pictures and post them and we eat the meat.

              How should the rest of the human race submit their activity requests to you so you can give it your official approval?

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              ZurdoDev
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              if you think that there is something unusual about taking a picture of that versus the vast, vast number of photos of absolutely random stuff that people take with their phones.

              No I don't nor did I imply that.

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              And do you understand every human activity? For example hot dog eating contests? Those make perfect sense to you?

              Stay in context.

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              How should the rest of the human race submit their activity requests to you so you can give it your official approval?

              Ah, glad you asked. Just use the email link (you know, the one you are afraid to show) and let me know.

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

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                The only exception to this is lawyers,

                Ya, I was only referring to the animal kingdom. Anything outside that is fair game. :)

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                krumia
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                Humans do belong to the animal kingdom. After all, the lawyers are human (or were, once).

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                • K krumia

                  Humans do belong to the animal kingdom. After all, the lawyers are human (or were, once).

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  the lawyers are human (or were, once).

                  Has that ever been proven? :)

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • K krumia

                    Humans do belong to the animal kingdom. After all, the lawyers are human (or were, once).

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                    Chris C B
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                    krumia wrote:

                    (or were, once)

                    Then it must have been a long time ago. In 1591 Shakespeare wrote: All: God save your majesty! Cade: I thank you, good people—there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score, and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord. Dick: The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Cade: Nay, that I mean to do.

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                    • D drolfson

                      Hunting today is a conservation practice. We have enough domestic stock that the need to hunt does not exist. For wildlife management we have two choices, either leave it alone and allow nature to come to its own equilibrium, or try to help it to a state of equilibrium that we desire. (It will never be perfect. Ever.) As society cannot live with the equilibrium that nature would try to establish (think wild coyotes, wolves, cougars, bison, prairie dogs, etc. living and hunting in your neighborhood) we do our best to control it. Our best method of doing this is to allow hunters to pay a 'tax' for permission (license) to go and kill some acceptable number of animals to try to keep everything in equilibrium. The wildlife folks work endlessly to try and predict what the animal populations will be from year to year and adjust the number of licenses to keep those numbers within acceptable levels. They do this not only for the prey animals, but for the predators. If there is a bad winter in Utah, and a large number of deer and Elk die, the predator numbers will need to be adjusted by allowing more hunting, or they will start hunting peoples pets and children as they begin to starve. If you read the article, rather than looking at a picture and getting upset, she went on a conservation hunt to remove a predator. It was a good thing for the area in the eyes and minds of those managing the animals. Long term, it will help, if they know what they are doing. (Don't judge them any more than you want them to judge you doing your job.) Personally, when I hunt I don't take or post pictures. I like to see pictures of peoples trophy animals, however. I prefer they are tastefully done without showing blood. Personally, I think she did this very well. If you have never hunted, I would say don't judge. What may appear easy to you (go shoot an animal) is far from that easy. Much like a luddite saying oh, a web page, what's the big deal, my 10 year old can build a website. It is called hunting not killing, as more times than not, you never get a chance to shoot. Here's another thought. How do you feel after finding and fixing a particularly difficult bug? If you feel good and want to share, that is how a hunter feels after a successful hunt. If it is a true trophy, they may have put in more than one season trying to get it. It might have taken hundreds of hours. Judge not and all of that. . . . TL/DR version :cool: Hunting is needed unless you want wild animals hunting in your yard or starving

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      I found this, looking for something else in fact, and thought it added an interesting view to this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/why-killing-a-lion-is-the-most-cowardly-thing-you-can-do[^]

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

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                        if you think that there is something unusual about taking a picture of that versus the vast, vast number of photos of absolutely random stuff that people take with their phones.

                        No I don't nor did I imply that.

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                        And do you understand every human activity? For example hot dog eating contests? Those make perfect sense to you?

                        Stay in context.

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                        How should the rest of the human race submit their activity requests to you so you can give it your official approval?

                        Ah, glad you asked. Just use the email link (you know, the one you are afraid to show) and let me know.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        jschell
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                        RyanDev wrote:

                        Stay in context.

                        You specifically said "I just don't get it" and that is what I quoted. So I figured that you thought it was relevant.

                        RyanDev wrote:

                        Just use the email link (you know, the one you are afraid to show)

                        What a weird and bizarre thing to say.

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                        • J jschell

                          RyanDev wrote:

                          Stay in context.

                          You specifically said "I just don't get it" and that is what I quoted. So I figured that you thought it was relevant.

                          RyanDev wrote:

                          Just use the email link (you know, the one you are afraid to show)

                          What a weird and bizarre thing to say.

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Indeed.

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            There's a photo going around, http://abcnews.go.com/US/hunting-star-stirs-outrage-posting-photo-dead-lion/story?id=20911636[^], of some lady hunter smiling over a dead lion. Why do hunters feel the need to smile and take pictures? I get that it's a trophy but you used a gun. What's the big deal to get so prideful about? Yes, I know, there is technique in stalking, etc, but what kind of messed up ego do you have to have to boast about killing something with a gun? If you kill it Rambo style with a knife then OK, you have bragging rights. I don't think you should hunt at all unless for food. I just don't get it. I have a good friend who I let hunt deer on my property but he doesn't take pictures and post them and we eat the meat.

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            MacSpudster
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                            If I hunted just for the food, my family & I would starve. In today's Wal-Mart SuperCenter-infested American lifestyle, there is no true need for hunting. It is a sport. Nothing more, nothing less. Now, I've recently come upon a group that Bow-hunts for pheasant. Something I look to getting into next year. Bow-hunting for big game (deer, elk) is worthy of a picture, regardless if "for food" or otherwise. Even our outdoor entertainment was "Made in China"!! For, the Chinese Ring-necked Pheasant is just that, from China! :wtf:Yet, ever notice there's never any pictures of fish where, in the story, they keep getting bigger and bigger?! :omg:

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