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    I have tried many alcoholic drinks in my life. Straight or mixed, on the rocks or off, over the table and under. Many have been fair, many foul. Up till last night the worst tasting straight spirit I had ever tried was Stoh rum. Foul stuff, but with a hefty kick. Last night though at the annual Maynardville Carnival the Chinese tent was serving something that they pronounced as "Agape." Not agape as in your mouth is agape. But agape as in the Latin word for love. Boys and girls, judges and drunks, that was the foulest drink I have ever tried. Apparently it is made from rice (what else being Chinese!) and one could literally taste the fermented rice in this tot of clear liquid. That I had two (a clear one and a golden one) was even worse. Every time I burped or breathed too deeply it repeated on me and it was not pleasant. Thankfully we headed for the Greek tent right after that and did a few Ouzos and then a few Grappas at the Italian tent. Much better drinks! So be warned, if you think Stoh rum tastes foul, you have not tried Agape. X|

    Paul Watson
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      I have tried many alcoholic drinks in my life. Straight or mixed, on the rocks or off, over the table and under. Many have been fair, many foul. Up till last night the worst tasting straight spirit I had ever tried was Stoh rum. Foul stuff, but with a hefty kick. Last night though at the annual Maynardville Carnival the Chinese tent was serving something that they pronounced as "Agape." Not agape as in your mouth is agape. But agape as in the Latin word for love. Boys and girls, judges and drunks, that was the foulest drink I have ever tried. Apparently it is made from rice (what else being Chinese!) and one could literally taste the fermented rice in this tot of clear liquid. That I had two (a clear one and a golden one) was even worse. Every time I burped or breathed too deeply it repeated on me and it was not pleasant. Thankfully we headed for the Greek tent right after that and did a few Ouzos and then a few Grappas at the Italian tent. Much better drinks! So be warned, if you think Stoh rum tastes foul, you have not tried Agape. X|

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

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      Never had stoh rum, or agape, never even heard of them, thank goodness. I did have a chinese drink that was some kind of strong alcohol with a whole pickled lizard in it. X| My (ex-) friend only showed me the lizard after I'd sipped the drink. Pass the bucket. btw, why did you try it twice if it was so disgusting???? Debbie

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        Never had stoh rum, or agape, never even heard of them, thank goodness. I did have a chinese drink that was some kind of strong alcohol with a whole pickled lizard in it. X| My (ex-) friend only showed me the lizard after I'd sipped the drink. Pass the bucket. btw, why did you try it twice if it was so disgusting???? Debbie

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        Debs wrote: Never had stoh rum Stoh rum is quite famous. 80% proof. My first ever serious drink was a double Stoh rum depth charge (take a pint glass, fill with beer, take double tot glass of Stoh rum and drop it in, start downing the pint glass) and I was absolutely hammered within 10 minutes of downing it. Debs wrote: btw, why did you try it twice if it was so disgusting???? I had the golden coloured version first. Then I saw there was a clear one to. QED. :-D

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          I have tried many alcoholic drinks in my life. Straight or mixed, on the rocks or off, over the table and under. Many have been fair, many foul. Up till last night the worst tasting straight spirit I had ever tried was Stoh rum. Foul stuff, but with a hefty kick. Last night though at the annual Maynardville Carnival the Chinese tent was serving something that they pronounced as "Agape." Not agape as in your mouth is agape. But agape as in the Latin word for love. Boys and girls, judges and drunks, that was the foulest drink I have ever tried. Apparently it is made from rice (what else being Chinese!) and one could literally taste the fermented rice in this tot of clear liquid. That I had two (a clear one and a golden one) was even worse. Every time I burped or breathed too deeply it repeated on me and it was not pleasant. Thankfully we headed for the Greek tent right after that and did a few Ouzos and then a few Grappas at the Italian tent. Much better drinks! So be warned, if you think Stoh rum tastes foul, you have not tried Agape. X|

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

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          btw, would it be really picky to point out that agape is greek, not latin? thought so :laugh: Hell, I need a decent coffee. Or a vodka. Or a day off work. Debbie

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            btw, would it be really picky to point out that agape is greek, not latin? thought so :laugh: Hell, I need a decent coffee. Or a vodka. Or a day off work. Debbie

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            Debs wrote: btw, would it be really picky to point out that agape is greek, not latin? That will teach me to trust the "informed" rantings of a drunk friend yelling "You stole this drink from the Latin word for love!" at the Chinese tent. :rolleyes: Frnakly it is all Greek to me... *groan* Debs wrote: Hell, I need a decent coffee. Or a vodka. Or a day off work. Vodka coffee... mmmnn... or better... Kaluha coffeee...mmmmnnn!

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              Debs wrote: btw, would it be really picky to point out that agape is greek, not latin? That will teach me to trust the "informed" rantings of a drunk friend yelling "You stole this drink from the Latin word for love!" at the Chinese tent. :rolleyes: Frnakly it is all Greek to me... *groan* Debs wrote: Hell, I need a decent coffee. Or a vodka. Or a day off work. Vodka coffee... mmmnn... or better... Kaluha coffeee...mmmmnnn!

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              vodka coffee :suss: kahlua...now you're talking, though I like it in a separate glass to the coffee, myself. Maybe we should start a thread on favourite drinks? I have way too many to whittle it down to one or two though.:-D Debbie

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                Debs wrote: Never had stoh rum Stoh rum is quite famous. 80% proof. My first ever serious drink was a double Stoh rum depth charge (take a pint glass, fill with beer, take double tot glass of Stoh rum and drop it in, start downing the pint glass) and I was absolutely hammered within 10 minutes of downing it. Debs wrote: btw, why did you try it twice if it was so disgusting???? I had the golden coloured version first. Then I saw there was a clear one to. QED. :-D

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                Paul Watson wrote: Stoh rum is quite famous. 80% proof. My first ever serious drink was a double Stoh rum depth charge (take a pint glass, fill with beer, take double tot glass of Stoh rum and drop it in, start downing the pint glass) and I was absolutely hammered within 10 minutes of downing it. May it be that you actually mean "Stroh" rum, which comes from my very own country? (Website[^]) Now that remembers me of 1.5 liters Stroh 40%, 4 liters of coke and 3 people drinking that. This was the only time in my live I was Drunk (capital D).


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                  I have tried many alcoholic drinks in my life. Straight or mixed, on the rocks or off, over the table and under. Many have been fair, many foul. Up till last night the worst tasting straight spirit I had ever tried was Stoh rum. Foul stuff, but with a hefty kick. Last night though at the annual Maynardville Carnival the Chinese tent was serving something that they pronounced as "Agape." Not agape as in your mouth is agape. But agape as in the Latin word for love. Boys and girls, judges and drunks, that was the foulest drink I have ever tried. Apparently it is made from rice (what else being Chinese!) and one could literally taste the fermented rice in this tot of clear liquid. That I had two (a clear one and a golden one) was even worse. Every time I burped or breathed too deeply it repeated on me and it was not pleasant. Thankfully we headed for the Greek tent right after that and did a few Ouzos and then a few Grappas at the Italian tent. Much better drinks! So be warned, if you think Stoh rum tastes foul, you have not tried Agape. X|

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
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                  Drambuie has the same effect on me, which is a little odd as I actually like Whisky (esp single malt or JD ;) ). I can't stand Southern Comfort though! The first time I tried Drambuie I nearlyt coughed the lot back up. I won't touch it now! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                    I have tried many alcoholic drinks in my life. Straight or mixed, on the rocks or off, over the table and under. Many have been fair, many foul. Up till last night the worst tasting straight spirit I had ever tried was Stoh rum. Foul stuff, but with a hefty kick. Last night though at the annual Maynardville Carnival the Chinese tent was serving something that they pronounced as "Agape." Not agape as in your mouth is agape. But agape as in the Latin word for love. Boys and girls, judges and drunks, that was the foulest drink I have ever tried. Apparently it is made from rice (what else being Chinese!) and one could literally taste the fermented rice in this tot of clear liquid. That I had two (a clear one and a golden one) was even worse. Every time I burped or breathed too deeply it repeated on me and it was not pleasant. Thankfully we headed for the Greek tent right after that and did a few Ouzos and then a few Grappas at the Italian tent. Much better drinks! So be warned, if you think Stoh rum tastes foul, you have not tried Agape. X|

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
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                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                    Now I must defend my homeland by stating that there is no such chinese drink as "Agape". Are you sure it is chinese? May be you are just too drunk to tell? :laugh: The rice alcoholic drinks made in China are not so clear. Ok, I admit that we sometimes play jokes on people from other countries by offering them foul tasting drinks. ;P By the way, have you tried "Wu Liang Ye" (means liquid from 5 kind of grains) or "Jiu Gui" (means drunken ghost)?

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                      Paul Watson wrote: Stoh rum is quite famous. 80% proof. My first ever serious drink was a double Stoh rum depth charge (take a pint glass, fill with beer, take double tot glass of Stoh rum and drop it in, start downing the pint glass) and I was absolutely hammered within 10 minutes of downing it. May it be that you actually mean "Stroh" rum, which comes from my very own country? (Website[^]) Now that remembers me of 1.5 liters Stroh 40%, 4 liters of coke and 3 people drinking that. This was the only time in my live I was Drunk (capital D).


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                      Andreas Saurwein wrote: May it be that you actually mean "Stroh" rum, which comes from my very own country? Yup that is the one. Evil stuff. Andreas Saurwein wrote: This was the only time in my live I was Drunk (capital D). LOL, you need to get Drunk more mate.

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                        Now I must defend my homeland by stating that there is no such chinese drink as "Agape". Are you sure it is chinese? May be you are just too drunk to tell? :laugh: The rice alcoholic drinks made in China are not so clear. Ok, I admit that we sometimes play jokes on people from other countries by offering them foul tasting drinks. ;P By the way, have you tried "Wu Liang Ye" (means liquid from 5 kind of grains) or "Jiu Gui" (means drunken ghost)?

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                        Anonymous wrote: Now I must defend my homeland by stating that there is no such chinese drink as "Agape". Are you sure it is chinese? May be you are just too drunk to tell? We were definitley in the Chinese tent, was the second tent we visited (after Mexicana where we only had three or so jello shots, nowhere near enough to even make me teeter.) It was not listed on the menu but my friend who tried it last year said to the very oriental lady "Have you got Agape?" and she smiled wickedly and brought a labeless bottle from under the counter. We saw some other oriental type people drinking it too so I am sure it was not just a Chinese joke on us Westerners :) I do not know how it is spelt, Agape comes as close as I can think. Anonymous wrote: The rice alcoholic drinks made in China are not so clear One was clear, like vodka (but it was not vodka I assure you, I know these things) and the other was a golden colour, like one of your mates had pissed in the white version. I will try and find a link to it and post it for you Mr. Anonymous

                        Paul Watson
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                        Cape Town, South Africa

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                          Andreas Saurwein wrote: May it be that you actually mean "Stroh" rum, which comes from my very own country? Yup that is the one. Evil stuff. Andreas Saurwein wrote: This was the only time in my live I was Drunk (capital D). LOL, you need to get Drunk more mate.

                          Paul Watson
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                          Paul Watson wrote: Yup that is the one. Evil stuff. :evil-grin: Yes, first we make you dizzy with Waltz and classic music, then we knock you down with Stroh rum. :laugh: Paul Watson wrote: LOL, you need to get Drunk more mate. Thanks, am still recovering from the last time. I seldom drink more than is good for me. If I want to get high (or stimulated), I'll have my wife and my computer :cool:


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                            Anonymous wrote: Now I must defend my homeland by stating that there is no such chinese drink as "Agape". Are you sure it is chinese? May be you are just too drunk to tell? We were definitley in the Chinese tent, was the second tent we visited (after Mexicana where we only had three or so jello shots, nowhere near enough to even make me teeter.) It was not listed on the menu but my friend who tried it last year said to the very oriental lady "Have you got Agape?" and she smiled wickedly and brought a labeless bottle from under the counter. We saw some other oriental type people drinking it too so I am sure it was not just a Chinese joke on us Westerners :) I do not know how it is spelt, Agape comes as close as I can think. Anonymous wrote: The rice alcoholic drinks made in China are not so clear One was clear, like vodka (but it was not vodka I assure you, I know these things) and the other was a golden colour, like one of your mates had pissed in the white version. I will try and find a link to it and post it for you Mr. Anonymous

                            Paul Watson
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                            Paul Watson wrote: ...said to the very oriental lady "Have you got Agape?" and she smiled wickedly... As someone mentioned already "Agape" is greek for "love". "Have you got Love" isnt something you ask in a chinese tent :) And you are wondering what the b**ch served you? :omg:


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                              Paul Watson wrote: Yup that is the one. Evil stuff. :evil-grin: Yes, first we make you dizzy with Waltz and classic music, then we knock you down with Stroh rum. :laugh: Paul Watson wrote: LOL, you need to get Drunk more mate. Thanks, am still recovering from the last time. I seldom drink more than is good for me. If I want to get high (or stimulated), I'll have my wife and my computer :cool:


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                              Andreas Saurwein wrote: I seldom drink more than is good for me. If I want to get high (or stimulated), I'll have my wife and my computer You definitley need to get Drunk. ;P I don't believe in sober drinking. If that is the case then I drink coke, lemonade or orange juice. But if I am going to drink then I Drink. Go Big or drink a coke. :rolleyes:

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                                Anonymous wrote: Now I must defend my homeland by stating that there is no such chinese drink as "Agape". Are you sure it is chinese? May be you are just too drunk to tell? We were definitley in the Chinese tent, was the second tent we visited (after Mexicana where we only had three or so jello shots, nowhere near enough to even make me teeter.) It was not listed on the menu but my friend who tried it last year said to the very oriental lady "Have you got Agape?" and she smiled wickedly and brought a labeless bottle from under the counter. We saw some other oriental type people drinking it too so I am sure it was not just a Chinese joke on us Westerners :) I do not know how it is spelt, Agape comes as close as I can think. Anonymous wrote: The rice alcoholic drinks made in China are not so clear One was clear, like vodka (but it was not vodka I assure you, I know these things) and the other was a golden colour, like one of your mates had pissed in the white version. I will try and find a link to it and post it for you Mr. Anonymous

                                Paul Watson
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                                Paul Watson wrote: ... she smiled wickedly ... That's the clue. Paul Watson wrote: ... like one of your mates had pissed in the white version ... And that's the answer. ;P As for the white version, I know some of my mates can do crystal clear piss. ;) Seriously, there was a chinese movie in which there is scene of people making alcohol. At the finish, they would ask a child to pee inside which supposed to make it taste good.

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                                  Paul Watson wrote: ...said to the very oriental lady "Have you got Agape?" and she smiled wickedly... As someone mentioned already "Agape" is greek for "love". "Have you got Love" isnt something you ask in a chinese tent :) And you are wondering what the b**ch served you? :omg:


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                                  Andreas Saurwein wrote: As someone mentioned already "Agape" is greek for "love". "Have you got Love" isnt something you ask in a chinese tent And you are wondering what the b**ch served you? Well she was not a bitch young man. That is a word to be used when only describing a truly terrible person of the female persuasion. :) And I said it was a clear liquid, not a milky one X| And judging from her English skills she probably knows no Latin either. (not that my Latin is anything at all...)

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                                    Paul Watson wrote: ... she smiled wickedly ... That's the clue. Paul Watson wrote: ... like one of your mates had pissed in the white version ... And that's the answer. ;P As for the white version, I know some of my mates can do crystal clear piss. ;) Seriously, there was a chinese movie in which there is scene of people making alcohol. At the finish, they would ask a child to pee inside which supposed to make it taste good.

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                                    Anonymous wrote: As for the white version, I know some of my mates can do crystal clear piss More info than anyone wants on even ones own mates, never mind other peoples mates. :rolleyes:

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                                      Anonymous wrote: Now I must defend my homeland by stating that there is no such chinese drink as "Agape". Are you sure it is chinese? May be you are just too drunk to tell? We were definitley in the Chinese tent, was the second tent we visited (after Mexicana where we only had three or so jello shots, nowhere near enough to even make me teeter.) It was not listed on the menu but my friend who tried it last year said to the very oriental lady "Have you got Agape?" and she smiled wickedly and brought a labeless bottle from under the counter. We saw some other oriental type people drinking it too so I am sure it was not just a Chinese joke on us Westerners :) I do not know how it is spelt, Agape comes as close as I can think. Anonymous wrote: The rice alcoholic drinks made in China are not so clear One was clear, like vodka (but it was not vodka I assure you, I know these things) and the other was a golden colour, like one of your mates had pissed in the white version. I will try and find a link to it and post it for you Mr. Anonymous

                                      Paul Watson
                                      Bluegrass
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                                      Hang on a minute... your "friend" had supped this before, and yet he still wanted to try it again? It was in a label-less bottle??? You tried the dubious looking yellow stuff even after having the first stuff? You think it was called agape? At least one of your mates was drunk? And yet you are expecting us to believe that you weren't drunk? Pull the other one. ;P What exactly was in the mexican jello?:~ Debbie

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                                        Hang on a minute... your "friend" had supped this before, and yet he still wanted to try it again? It was in a label-less bottle??? You tried the dubious looking yellow stuff even after having the first stuff? You think it was called agape? At least one of your mates was drunk? And yet you are expecting us to believe that you weren't drunk? Pull the other one. ;P What exactly was in the mexican jello?:~ Debbie

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                                        Debs wrote: your "friend" had supped this before, and yet he still wanted to try it again? He wanted me to try it. Only way he could get me to try it was for him to join in to. Debs wrote: You tried the dubious looking yellow stuff even after having the first stuff I had the golden version first. Hated it. Thought the clear might not be as bad. I was wrong. Debs wrote: You think it was called agape? It definitley was called agape. At least if you say the Greek word for love then it sounds identical to what the Chinese lady said and what my friend said. So my spelling may be off. I could make a recording and email it to you, but then that would be getting a bit wierd. Debs wrote: At least one of your mates was drunk? No, they all were. :rolleyes: Debs wrote: And yet you are expecting us to believe that you weren't drunk? Pull the other one. What exactly was in the mexican jello? Oh Tequilla! She makes you happy... One Tequilla... Two Tequilla... Three Tequilla... Floor... :rolleyes: I had three, that is only about 3 tots, nowhere near enough to get drunk on. Look, when Chris gets rich and flies all the regulars to his Secret Island Lair I will bring along a bottle and you can all try it. Deal?

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                                          Andreas Saurwein wrote: I seldom drink more than is good for me. If I want to get high (or stimulated), I'll have my wife and my computer You definitley need to get Drunk. ;P I don't believe in sober drinking. If that is the case then I drink coke, lemonade or orange juice. But if I am going to drink then I Drink. Go Big or drink a coke. :rolleyes:

                                          Paul Watson
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                                          Cape Town, South Africa

                                          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                                          Paul Watson wrote: I don't believe in sober drinking. Ah, ye of little faith! I, for one, am a True Believer in sober drinking - i always believe i'm sober while drinking, up 'till the point my head contacts terra firma.

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                                          Ever since i heard the voice i thought i had no choice...

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