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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Nicholas Marty wrote:

    Why should all those winamp users be forced to go on a search for a player that offers the same features and the same feeling when they were perfectly fine with those offered by winamp?

    Because the people who have spent months and months of their lives creating and developing it don't want to spend more of their lives on it. Try this one[^], or this one[^], or this one[^] (which has a much smaller footprint than WinAmp), or even VLC (OK, maybe not VLC), and let the guys move on to making something else. Alternatively, given that WinAmp ain't broke, just keep using it. If it's perfect for you now, why would you want them, or anyone else, to change it?

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    OK, maybe not VLC

    Why not? :confused:


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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Nicholas Marty wrote:

      I've never had any problems whatsoever with winamp. No sound file it could play. No crashes.

      Um. That sounds like a problem to me! :laugh:

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Nicholas Marty wrote:

      I've never had any problems whatsoever with winamp. No sound file it could play. No crashes.

      Um. That sounds like a problem to me!

      Depends on what music he wants to play.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        Mark_Wallace wrote:

        OK, maybe not VLC

        Why not? :confused:


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        It's one of the best for playing video, but it doesn't have all the configury-pokery that people want from music players.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          It's one of the best for playing video, but it doesn't have all the configury-pokery that people want from music players.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Richard Deeming
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          Ah, OK. Having never messed around with any of that nonsense, I doubt I'd miss it. :)


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          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Nicholas Marty wrote:

            I've never had any problems whatsoever with winamp. No sound file it could play. No crashes.

            Um. That sounds like a problem to me! :laugh:

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            Nicholas Marty
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            Uhm... Looks like my mind was quicker than the fingers on the keyboard :-O

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              Nicholas Marty wrote:

              Why should all those winamp users be forced to go on a search for a player that offers the same features and the same feeling when they were perfectly fine with those offered by winamp?

              Because the people who have spent months and months of their lives creating and developing it don't want to spend more of their lives on it. Try this one[^], or this one[^], or this one[^] (which has a much smaller footprint than WinAmp), or even VLC (OK, maybe not VLC), and let the guys move on to making something else. Alternatively, given that WinAmp ain't broke, just keep using it. If it's perfect for you now, why would you want them, or anyone else, to change it?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Nicholas Marty
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              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Because the people who have spent months and months of their lives creating and developing it don't want to spend more of their lives on it.

              So why shouldn't they open source it for those who still wan't to use it? :)

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Alternatively, given that WinAmp ain't broke, just keep using it.

              That's what I'm going to do as long as it works :laugh: And VLC is fine for watching videos, and that's what I use it for occasionally. But it's not really suited as a music player in my opinion.

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              • J JoeSox

                "But fans of the venerable software have launched a "Save Winamp"[^] website and petition[^] asking AOL either to keep Winamp alive or to open source its code." http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/winamp-lovers-beg-aol-to-open-source-code/[^] I was just looking if their was any previous code released in its earlier versions and found that.

                Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - CPForAndroid++

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                As OG mentioned in a post about people being resistant to change, that would be me. But I like Winamp and have been using it for many years. Guess I'll have to quit procrastinating and get another one but not today. :)

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  Why? There must be at least a dozen media players almost identical to WinAmp, some of them open source, and some with the source code available. WinAmp doesn't do anything that many others don't do.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  Why? There must be at least a dozen media players almost identical to WinAmp,

                  Not really, the API is probably most used. It was the first to have last.fm plugin, perhaps last.fm even sprouted from WinAmp. http://www.last.fm/user/JoeSox[^] Winamp has mobile support, but mainly the wide variety of plugins is what makes it attractive, imo.

                  Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - CPForAndroid++

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                  • N Nicholas Marty

                    My reasons why I don't want to switch: 1. I've been using it for about 15 years 2. It doesn't use massive amounts of cpu or ram even with lots of songs (Last time I tried iTunes couldn't even start anymore) 3. It doesn't fill your pc with bloatware 4. there are thousands of skins and customizations available I've never had any problems whatsoever with winamp. No sound file it could *not* play. No crashes. It just worked. Even on slow hardware. Why should all those winamp users be forced to go on a search for a player that offers the same features and the same feeling when they were perfectly fine with those offered by winamp? Should I check out player x only to find out it offers feature a & b but not feature c? or player y that offers feature b & c but not feature a? For me it's like switching from Windows to Linux. Sure I COULD probably do everything there too, but tell me: Why are people still buying Windows if they can get Linux Distributions for free? :)

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                    Nicholas Marty wrote:

                    3. It doesn't fill your pc with bloatware

                    :laugh: No kidding, every time I open iTunes it wants to update but not only that, update quicktime. Winamp was updated a lot too but iTunes seems like everytime they are not patches or updates but complete re-installs.

                    Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - CPForAndroid++

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                      Nicholas Marty wrote:

                      3. It doesn't fill your pc with bloatware

                      :laugh: No kidding, every time I open iTunes it wants to update but not only that, update quicktime. Winamp was updated a lot too but iTunes seems like everytime they are not patches or updates but complete re-installs.

                      Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - CPForAndroid++

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                      It could be worse - it could be RealPlayer!


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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        As OG mentioned in a post about people being resistant to change, that would be me. But I like Winamp and have been using it for many years. Guess I'll have to quit procrastinating and get another one but not today. :)

                        VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                        Try Aimp (http://www.aimp.ru/index.php[^]) It's similar to Winamp, faster and uses less resources.

                        it´s the journey, not the destination that matters

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                        • E ErnestoNet

                          Try Aimp (http://www.aimp.ru/index.php[^]) It's similar to Winamp, faster and uses less resources.

                          it´s the journey, not the destination that matters

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                          Downloaded it and kicking the tires...Keb Mo - Love Train! It ain't nothing like WinAmp, except they both play music unless I just haven't got it set up right but that's one of the tires I'll be a kickin. Thanks for the link!

                          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Nicholas Marty wrote:

                            I've never had any problems whatsoever with winamp. No sound file it could play. No crashes.

                            Um. That sounds like a problem to me!

                            Depends on what music he wants to play.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Could be this piece[^] ;P

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              Downloaded it and kicking the tires...Keb Mo - Love Train! It ain't nothing like WinAmp, except they both play music unless I just haven't got it set up right but that's one of the tires I'll be a kickin. Thanks for the link!

                              VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                              A friend told me to try it as the latest version of Winamp was pretty slow. It's very fast and neat. Sound quality is excelent. The installer is 7Mb... It has skins and addons. The most important thing is that it seems to be gaining momentum.

                              it´s the journey, not the destination that matters

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                              • N Nicholas Marty

                                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                Because the people who have spent months and months of their lives creating and developing it don't want to spend more of their lives on it.

                                So why shouldn't they open source it for those who still wan't to use it? :)

                                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                Alternatively, given that WinAmp ain't broke, just keep using it.

                                That's what I'm going to do as long as it works :laugh: And VLC is fine for watching videos, and that's what I use it for occasionally. But it's not really suited as a music player in my opinion.

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                                Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                So why shouldn't they open source it for those who still wan't to use it?

                                Because it belongs to them; it's part of their CV. Would you give your work away, so that any Tom, Dick, or Harry could make little, inconsequential changes then claim to prospective employers that he'd written it? Worse, what happens if new blood bloats the Hell out of it, ruining its reputation? That happened to a degree with VLC, a couple of years ago, when a bunch of new guys came in (but it levelled out, thank God). They've let millions of people use their work for free for years, and they're not stopping people using it now. All those people should say thanks, not make further demands.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  A friend told me to try it as the latest version of Winamp was pretty slow. It's very fast and neat. Sound quality is excelent. The installer is 7Mb... It has skins and addons. The most important thing is that it seems to be gaining momentum.

                                  it´s the journey, not the destination that matters

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                                  Yeah it's got very good sound quality and seems pretty fast but just have to get used to the UI. A lot more difficult to find music, I have 2000 albums so it's a pain, in WinAmp they have different windows and it's easy to drill down and get to what you want.

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    Why? There must be at least a dozen media players almost identical to WinAmp, some of them open source, and some with the source code available. WinAmp doesn't do anything that many others don't do.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    Sander Rossel
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                                    I have tried others and they sucked. Windows Media Player just doesn't have the flexible library to show the 10000's of files I have. Besides, it overwrites my tags because it thinks it knows better. iTunes is even worse than WMP (plus I have an iPad and somehow iTunes is the worst media player to use for playing music on your iPad...). I've also tried Foobar, but I couldn't find a decent layout to show my library. I've tried others, but none gave me the flexibility and control that Winamp gives me (or were lacking of a Scrobbler for last.fm, a website I like even more than *dare I say it?* CP!). Winamp just works and has done so for the last ten to fifteen years.

                                    It's an OO world.

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                                    • J JoeSox

                                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                      Why? There must be at least a dozen media players almost identical to WinAmp,

                                      Not really, the API is probably most used. It was the first to have last.fm plugin, perhaps last.fm even sprouted from WinAmp. http://www.last.fm/user/JoeSox[^] Winamp has mobile support, but mainly the wide variety of plugins is what makes it attractive, imo.

                                      Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - CPForAndroid++

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                                      JoeSox wrote:

                                      perhaps last.fm even sprouted from WinAmp.

                                      One of my favourite websites! I tried Foobar once, but back then it didn't have a Scrobbler yet. I didn't try it anymore after that :)

                                      It's an OO world.

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        Yeah it's got very good sound quality and seems pretty fast but just have to get used to the UI. A lot more difficult to find music, I have 2000 albums so it's a pain, in WinAmp they have different windows and it's easy to drill down and get to what you want.

                                        VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                                        in WinAmp they have different windows and it's easy to drill down and get to what you want.

                                        THE reason I'm using WinAmp. That and their last.fm Scrobbler :)

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class Sander : Lazy<Person>{
                                        public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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                                        • M Mark_Wallace

                                          Why? There must be at least a dozen media players almost identical to WinAmp, some of them open source, and some with the source code available. WinAmp doesn't do anything that many others don't do.

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                                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                          Why? There must be at least a dozen media players almost identical to WinAmp, some of them open source, and some with the source code available.

                                          Why are there duplicates of almost anything that anyone uses anywhere?

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