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    Septimus Hedgehog
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    File: 4.5GB. 8GB USB stick with 7.3GB free space. Windows can't copy the file saying there's insufficient space. 110GB external drive with about 6GB free space. Windows was able to copy the file. Uh? Anyone know why less space is fine but more isn't?:confused:

    If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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      File: 4.5GB. 8GB USB stick with 7.3GB free space. Windows can't copy the file saying there's insufficient space. 110GB external drive with about 6GB free space. Windows was able to copy the file. Uh? Anyone know why less space is fine but more isn't?:confused:

      If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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      Is it FAT32 formatted? The maximum file size on FAT32 is 4GB.

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        Is it FAT32 formatted? The maximum file size on FAT32 is 4GB.

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        Harold, you may well have explained it. What would you suggest? To be sure, I very rarely have files of that size. The file itself was a 7-zipped archive of a 17GB database export. Still, it would be nice to know what format would be better.

        If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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          Harold, you may well have explained it. What would you suggest? To be sure, I very rarely have files of that size. The file itself was a 7-zipped archive of a 17GB database export. Still, it would be nice to know what format would be better.

          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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          David Goebet
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          just format your usb-drive to ntfs -> so it can handle files bigger 4GB :)

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            Harold, you may well have explained it. What would you suggest? To be sure, I very rarely have files of that size. The file itself was a 7-zipped archive of a 17GB database export. Still, it would be nice to know what format would be better.

            If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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            You could reformat it to NTFS (can be done with the command line tool "convert", which doesn't nuke your files), or use a "split archive" ("split to volumes" in 7zip) (I would choose this option)

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              just format your usb-drive to ntfs -> so it can handle files bigger 4GB :)

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              One Problem with USB-drive and NTFS is: You also copy the NTFS ACL with the file. If you plug the USB drive into another PC you might not be able to get access to the file unless you change the permissions of the file first. An alternative would be, instead of reformatting the drive, if you're working with zip files anyway to let 7-zip (or any other zip tool) to split the zip file into multiple parts. Makes it easier to handle :)

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                Harold, you may well have explained it. What would you suggest? To be sure, I very rarely have files of that size. The file itself was a 7-zipped archive of a 17GB database export. Still, it would be nice to know what format would be better.

                If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                SeptimusHedgehog 151576 wrote:

                Harold, you may well have explained it. What would you suggest?

                If you don't want to go NTFS or just want to try the newest thing for kicks, try exFAT.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  File: 4.5GB. 8GB USB stick with 7.3GB free space. Windows can't copy the file saying there's insufficient space. 110GB external drive with about 6GB free space. Windows was able to copy the file. Uh? Anyone know why less space is fine but more isn't?:confused:

                  If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                  Rather than reformat your USB (which I wouldn't want to do myself), why not use a 7-Zip Split Archive? You can set a max size of the file and it generates "n" files each up to that size: http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/guides/7-zip-split-archive.html[^] Simpler, and may be better for the recipient as well.

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                    One Problem with USB-drive and NTFS is: You also copy the NTFS ACL with the file. If you plug the USB drive into another PC you might not be able to get access to the file unless you change the permissions of the file first. An alternative would be, instead of reformatting the drive, if you're working with zip files anyway to let 7-zip (or any other zip tool) to split the zip file into multiple parts. Makes it easier to handle :)

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                    That's where I hit a problem with 7zip. I tried selecting the option to split the archive into 600MB CD chunks. 7zip, alas, barfed "Not implemented" at me. I know it's open source but I thought it would have been able to do it. WinRar does splitting as I recall but I think you have to pay for it? Edit: I tried the split archive with 7zip here at work and it's works fine. Not sure why the same version on my home PC doesn't.

                    If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                      That's where I hit a problem with 7zip. I tried selecting the option to split the archive into 600MB CD chunks. 7zip, alas, barfed "Not implemented" at me. I know it's open source but I thought it would have been able to do it. WinRar does splitting as I recall but I think you have to pay for it? Edit: I tried the split archive with 7zip here at work and it's works fine. Not sure why the same version on my home PC doesn't.

                      If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                      That's odd, it worked for me

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                        That's odd, it worked for me

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                        Septimus Hedgehog
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                        Harold, I just edited the previous reply. Works at office but not at home.

                        If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                          File: 4.5GB. 8GB USB stick with 7.3GB free space. Windows can't copy the file saying there's insufficient space. 110GB external drive with about 6GB free space. Windows was able to copy the file. Uh? Anyone know why less space is fine but more isn't?:confused:

                          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                          As a developer you should be able to write a rough 'linux split like' program in less than 10 minutes. :-D

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                            Harold, I just edited the previous reply. Works at office but not at home.

                            If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                            IIRC you have to use the 7z format for it to work, maybe you had it set to something else?

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                              As a developer you should be able to write a rough 'linux split like' program in less than 10 minutes. :-D

                              Veni, vidi, vici.

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                              Septimus Hedgehog
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                              FTFY. I've reinvented too many wheels in my lifetime. No matter how hard I try, they still keep coming out round. I've tried a few triangular wheels as well. :-D

                              If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                SeptimusHedgehog 151576 wrote:

                                Harold, you may well have explained it. What would you suggest?

                                If you don't want to go NTFS or just want to try the newest thing for kicks, try exFAT.

                                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                Septimus Hedgehog
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                                ExFAT. Never heard of that until now. Seems I've spent the last few years with my head up my ass.

                                If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                  IIRC you have to use the 7z format for it to work, maybe you had it set to something else?

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                                  Septimus Hedgehog
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                                  I only ever use 7zip format because it compresses so much better than t'others.

                                  If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                    Is it FAT32 formatted? The maximum file size on FAT32 is 4GB.

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    That's almost certainly the problem. Do you have to use the file directly from the target disc, or can you split it up with a file splitter/WinRar/other archiver?

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                                      FTFY. I've reinvented too many wheels in my lifetime. No matter how hard I try, they still keep coming out round. I've tried a few triangular wheels as well. :-D

                                      If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                      SeptimusHedgehog 151576 wrote:

                                      I've reinvented too many wheels in my lifetime

                                      I seem to be better at inventing punctures.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        File: 4.5GB. 8GB USB stick with 7.3GB free space. Windows can't copy the file saying there's insufficient space. 110GB external drive with about 6GB free space. Windows was able to copy the file. Uh? Anyone know why less space is fine but more isn't?:confused:

                                        If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                        From a command line: convert [usb drive letter]: /fs:ntfs If you want to be sure that you will not have access rights problems after that, you can give full access to everyone on the root. You could also use a formatting tool for usb drives (I don't have a link, I just remember HP used to provide one - HP USB Formatting Tool), but formatting will erase everything that is already on the drive.

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                                          File: 4.5GB. 8GB USB stick with 7.3GB free space. Windows can't copy the file saying there's insufficient space. 110GB external drive with about 6GB free space. Windows was able to copy the file. Uh? Anyone know why less space is fine but more isn't?:confused:

                                          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                          If the file is marked as contiguous and there is insufficient contiguous space available, the copy will fail. You can get around this in several ways. My favorite is by putting it in a zip file and copying the zip file.

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