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  • L Lost User

    How do you estimate time fir writing code? If your manager ask you to give him a time for something to be done?

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    RafagaX
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    It doesn't matter how you estimate it, because whatever you think it will take you, it'll take longer... Or just come up with a guesstimate and multiply it by two.

    CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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    • L Lost User

      How do you estimate time fir writing code? If your manager ask you to give him a time for something to be done?

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      I used to get stuck doing estimates, turns out I was fairly good at it, even though I hated every minute of it. They made me estimate the pieces and then brick them into a Microsoft Project file. I always gave them a tirade about how stupid that was, complaining all the while about what I called "Horizon Effect" (You see the mountain you want to climb in the distance, you bring pitons, ropes, and supplies, but after you get over the horizon you find that deep canyon and the fast running river running through it. Oops) But then I'd do it. Can't say how I did it. I'll guess that I looked at the complexity and could somehow estimate the volume of code which translates to how long it will take to write it. But that's experience talking about doing something similar to what I've done before. If it is totally new, all bets are off, that requires research and you don't know how deep that rabbit hole goes.

      Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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      • L Lost User

        Does that include tea and fag breaks?

        Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

        fag breaks

        They prefer to be called gay and openly admitting to attacking them isn't good form.

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        • L Lost User

          How do you estimate time fir writing code? If your manager ask you to give him a time for something to be done?

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          If you think it will take an hour estimate a work-day, if you can do it in a day, estimate 5 work days, a week -> 2 months. It's amazing how that works out to be pretty accurate. With the hour, you start coding, 10 minutes in, you go "what about..." You hunt down the guy who knows, get the answer. Start coding, someone asks you... By the end of the day snarl at anyone who dares approach you and finish the one hour project to be within estimate.

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          • L Lost User

            Think of a number, add 2 and multiply by 3.

            Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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            James Lonero
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            Take the number they give you and multiply it by PI (3.14), for going around in circles.

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            • S Shelby Robertson

              محمد م. محمد wrote:

              Are you referring that all agile people are males?

              Yes. I think its illegal to shoot female software developers, as they are an endangered species.

              CPallini wrote:

              You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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              Shelby Robertson wrote:

              I think its illegal to shoot female software developers

              This sound nerdish

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              • Y Yvan Rodrigues

                I start by estimating a number based on experience. I only use factors of ~2. e.g. 1h, 2h, 4h, 8h, 1d, 2d, 4d, 2w, 1m, etc. Anything more specific is just a guess. Then I quadruple it. 1/4 is to make up for the fact that I'm lying to myself about how long it will take. 1/4 is for when I come across bug X in component Y and waste a day or more on it. 1/4 of that is so I can properly document the project, code, and write a developer's manual. I am meticulous about keeping track of my time, and lately I have been within 10% of my estimate. :cool:

                Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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                Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                Then I quadruple it.
                1/4 is to make up for the fact that I'm lying to myself about how long it will take.
                1/4 is for when I come across bug X in component Y and waste a day or more on it.
                1/4 of that is so I can properly document the project, code, and write a developer's manual.

                Where did the remaining 1/4 go?

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                • K KP Lee

                  Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                  fag breaks

                  They prefer to be called gay and openly admitting to attacking them isn't good form.

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                  In the UK a fag is a cigarette.

                  Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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                  • L Lost User

                    In the UK a fag is a cigarette.

                    Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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                    KP Lee
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                    In the US a fag can also mean a cigarette. I was kidding about it's other meaning. Drag changes based on context too, it could relate to a cigarette or a way of dressing. Strange language, English. Gay means happiness.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                      Then I quadruple it.
                      1/4 is to make up for the fact that I'm lying to myself about how long it will take.
                      1/4 is for when I come across bug X in component Y and waste a day or more on it.
                      1/4 of that is so I can properly document the project, code, and write a developer's manual.

                      Where did the remaining 1/4 go?

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                      Yvan Rodrigues
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                      The first quarter is my initial estimate.

                      Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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