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What Do You Use For Serial Communications?

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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    Mike Mullikin wrote:

    because its full of Microsoft goodness.

    You're not one of the candidates being considered to replace Balmer are you? :)

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    Lost User
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    Mike Hankey wrote:

    You're not one of the candidates being considered to replace Balmer are you?

    I use a Mac... I'm over qualified. :cool: :laugh:

    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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      Unfortunately, the electric power industry is far behind the rest of the world. My boss still doesn't quite trust solid state relays, and would prefer that we protect our lines and substations with the electromechanical sort. Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories (SEL, INC) pioneered solid state relays, and produces some of the best, but they still think RS232 is pretty neat. We just got a notice that our satellite clock modules have a glitch, and the only way to update the firmware is via a serial port. X|

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      Ron Beyer
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      I work in the electric/solar power industry as well (new contract, I usually do Oil/Gas), some of our engineers (not me) are well versed with Schweitzer's. Fortunately when a new project comes along they let me dictate parts. We have some older equipment still working off of serial but as it gets upgraded we are using gateways.

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        I work in the electric/solar power industry as well (new contract, I usually do Oil/Gas), some of our engineers (not me) are well versed with Schweitzer's. Fortunately when a new project comes along they let me dictate parts. We have some older equipment still working off of serial but as it gets upgraded we are using gateways.

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        Roger Wright
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        We have SEL2032 Communications Processors in each of our substations, linked via Ethernet on a private radio network, but they're not connected to the clocks that require updating. Unfortunately, I'm not well versed in the SEL stuff, either, and have no idea how to connect them to the 2032s. If I did, I could probably do the update from my desk, instead of taking a laptop far into the desert with a serial cable...

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          My favorite: TERMINAL By Bray[^]

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          That's certainly worth a look; Thanks! :-D

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          • R Roger Wright

            Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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            Roger Wright wrote:

            What's your favorite,

            RealTerm[^]

            Roger Wright wrote:

            and why?

            It's free and pretty comprehensive

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              Mike Hankey wrote:

              You're not one of the candidates being considered to replace Balmer are you?

              I use a Mac... I'm over qualified. :cool: :laugh:

              Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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              Mike Hankey
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              Good comeback and true enough!

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              • R Roger Wright

                Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                S Houghtelin
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                I have used LookRS 232[^] with good results. I like it because it allows command scripting. Otherwise I generally write my own applications for using custom binary data formats coming from our products. Most of our product use SoC as the brains on our products the best way for me to test the systems are through the SCI (Serial Communication Interface) RS 232 is the easiest, quickest and most reliable for collecting data from our products during testing (Read least expensive). When the products are ready for consumer market we will have ported them to Bluetooth or USB interfaces with simplified data formats. But some of our customers still want RS232 or RS485.

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                • R Roger Wright

                  Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  QVT/Term, been using it since the mid-90s. It does serial and Telnet, so it's what I use for working with my OpenVMS servers :cool: even when HyperTerminal is available. I'm no longer sure whether or not I pirated my copy. I do know that I didn't pay for it, but I thought I had downloaded it from QPC.com (which no longer knows what I'm talking about). http://download.cnet.com/QVT-Net/3000-2160_4-10003575.html[^] I may still have a copy of Procomm laying around...

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                    RTek23
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                    Teraterm for general purpose hyperterm replacement use, but realterm for playing down with the fiddly bits of micro's. Realterm provides lots of control, including sending pre-canned strings, multi-format decodes, etc. Both free, but appeals to slightly different uses, one pretty high level, and the other for playing in the serial weeds. And unfortunately, I suspect serial will be around for some time, although some Mfr's are seeing the light of the next generation. Ken

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      I use TeraTerm[^] and have had pretty good success. Another very good one is Putty.

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                      I saw Putty on an Arduino site couple of years ago and downloaded it. Still using it for GPS and Arduino. Very easy to use.

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                        I saw Putty on an Arduino site couple of years ago and downloaded it. Still using it for GPS and Arduino. Very easy to use.

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                        I had Putty but when I reloaded my machine I didn't put it back on, using Tera Term now it's simple and I don't use it a lot. Best all around Arduino site I've found is AVRFreak, been a member for a couple of years.

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          NormDroid
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                          I wrote my own called NTerm using WPF, I use it for Cisco appliances.

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                            glennPattonWork3
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                            I wrote my own using the serial port class (that led to an article here Serial Comms in C# for Beginners[^], why did M$ give up with shipping HyperTerminal with new versions of Windows's. When first setting up a PC we have to install HyperTerm Private edition (and pray the licence we have has not expired!)

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              Nicholas Marty
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                              I use Hercules[^] whenever I need one of the following: Serial Communication, TCP Client, TCP Server, UDP Communication It's free and doesn't require an installation (standalone exe)

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                              • R Roger Wright

                                Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                                altomaltes
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                                putty, minimal, no annoying and only makes sessions in you want. The fantastic program wich does not put his hands in your pocket.

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                                  Prune etna
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                                  Hterm [] works for me. I haven't compared it to other emulators mentioned here so I can't claim that it's the best, but it talks to PIC micros over USBser.sys conveniently without fuss. Also python's serial module is pretty easy to use if you fancy writing your own interface instead of using a terminal emulator.

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                                    jpcmonteiro
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                                    I've used Hercules (http://www.hw-group.com/products/hercules/index_en.html[^]) in the past. It's very nice as a serial terminal, as well as a simple TCP server/client.

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                                      code_junkie
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                                      I copy hypertrm.exe and hypertrm.dll from an old XP box to a directory on the new box...

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                                      • R Roger Wright

                                        Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

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                                        msb198
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                                        I still use HyperTerminal. I grabbed hypertrm.exe and hypertrm.dll off my XP machine and have them on a flash drive to use on my Windows 7 laptop. I also run an XP VM within Windows 7, so I can connect my USB to Serial adapter to the VM and use HyperTerminal there. If anyone's interested, I use the B&B Electronics Model 232USB9M for all my automation equipment and haven't had any problems. When laptops first stopped including serial ports, we had some converters that were a little temperamental. Also, while we're talking ancient comms, anyone that still needs to program a PLC-5 or anything else using a PCMCIA card on a modern laptop, I bought an ExpressCard to PCMCIA adapter from shopdigi.com and it works flawlessly. It looks cheap and there's no brand name on the packaging, but my Allen Bradley 1784-PCMK card works with it.

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          Just curious, since Windows no longer ships with HyperTerminal, what those who deal with this archaic technology use for terminal emulation. Anyone involved in SCADA or factory automation probably has need for a terminal emulator over RS232 or RS485 on a regular basis, so there are likely to be several products still on the market. What's your favorite, and why?

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          User 10408884
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                                          I have used several over the years. The best I found for my needs is Anzio. I use it daily. It is reliable and full of features that you would not expect to find in an emulator. The author has done an amaing job. http://www.anzio.com/product/anziowin[^]

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