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  • S Simon Lee Shugar

    I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

    Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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    thatraja
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    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

    1. How often do you develop outside of work?

    In past, very less. Hereafter I'll get more time I think.

    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

    2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

    Personal. No projects, but small utilities & R&D to # Axe. Planning to publish articles here next year onwards. And focusing Mobile development.

    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

    3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

    Recently started practice animation* after long time research. I'm planning to release couple of shorts on next year. * Some more things too

    thatraja

    Code converters | Education Needed | Plans

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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      Well, currently I'm working on pulling together some initial tunez to riff on with the ever cool Christopher Duncan.

      Link when you get some stuff done please. :)

      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Will do. Given that we both have a fondness for 70's style rock, it should be in that vein.

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      • S Simon Lee Shugar

        I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

        Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

        How often do you develop outside of work?

        Much less than ten years ago. I mostly maintain my open-source project (see my signature).

        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

        Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

        Neither - it is an open source project and is pretty widely used, but I get no money for it.

        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

        What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

        I like reading when I have time: technical articles, history, literature.

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        • S Simon Lee Shugar

          I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

          Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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          AlexCode
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          I kind of need to :) By need I mean that I really have the need for it, not because of any external "force". And yeah I have a daily life without computers. And yeah I sleep enough (6-7 h a day) and a lot more on weekends. And no, I don't loose any important time commuting to/from work. Working hours tend to be more of the same and usually after the projects initial fuss there's really nothing new to do. Outside working hours what I do is exactly that... do stuff will all those shinny new toys that pop up in full bags every day. In these side projects I do something I never do in a production serious client project, I use the latest most untested and shinny peace of technology I read on my daily news feeds :omg: What do I get from it? I know they exists, I know how to use them and I know (this is really important) when NOT to use them. What next? Most of those shinny new things tend to disappear in smoke but for those who resist and prove themselves I might have a use for them in the future... The thing is that if I never tested them I would never now!!! What's the alternative? Google for solutions and apply them blindly or with few PoCs and real practical experience. People tend to trust Google results a lot and that may come with a price... an expensive one. We're in a ever evolving and changing business. People tend to create things out of nothing or build some other out of the existing. It's essential for any serious professional to know what runs behind the scenes otherwise we're merely assembly poorly designed Lego castles... Cheers!

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          • S Simon Lee Shugar

            I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

            Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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            Maximilien
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            Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

            1. How often do you develop outside of work?

            Never, I have other things to do.

            Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

            2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

            See above.

            Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

            3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

            I don't work outside of work, I only do things that pleases me. (not that I don't like paid work).

            I'd rather be phishing!

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            • S Simon Lee Shugar

              I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

              Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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              Marc Clifton
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              Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

              1. How often do you develop outside of work?

              I'd say that anywhere from 25% to 50% of my time, I'm developing stuff outside of work. For example, most of these[^] are things I've worked on to further my knowledge of Ruby on Rails, and that doesn't include my latest venture, arctiores.herokuapp.com (ugh, I just noticed the nbsp's!) which is still a work in progress, I'll eventually publish an article on the core stuff and the UI is really raw for prototyping and playing around.

              Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

              2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

              Both. And the third category is, enhancing my "portfolio", aka resume.

              Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

              3. What do you like to work on outside of work?

              I love metadata concepts and looking at new and different ways to work with technologies, data, databases, relationships between data, and just goofing around with different concepts. This is also the impetus for a lot of my articles. Besides programming, I also am involved with some interesting community stuff, like generosity communities, needs & gifts, investment opportunity networks, spiritual studies (yes, I have strong spiritual convictions as well.) Sometimes there's a synergy between my non-programming activities and what I do programming wise. The needs & gifts site and the Arctiores site are examples. And of course, I love writing, and CP is a great outlet for that. Oh, and I'm learning to play the lyre. A lovely instrument! Marc

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                So how do you "sharpen your saw" and learn stuff that you don't have available at work? How do you keep your skills relevant and up to date?

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                Seems I always get thrown into whatever the technology is at work, with or without training. The few times I've tried to learn a technology outside of work, it was year before I ever got to use it, and by then, it was so rusty, I had to start over anyway. I've decide it's not really worth the effort to chase the latest trends in technology. But then again, I'm not at the top of the developer food chain either.

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                • S Simon Lee Shugar

                  I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                  Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                  1. Not as much as I used to...more family and home obligations these days. Luckily, I have a regular Saturday job that allows me at least 5-6 hours to delve into personal projects. 2. My side projects have historically been productivity tools either for work. Most of these were written many years ago, and have served me well. 3. Mrs. Wife and I have been in the new (actually 21 yrs) house a little over 2 months now, so I have my 'homework' planned out for the next several months. It seems that 20-25 years is the lifespan for many household gadgets/fixtures! To boot, we are getting the old house ready to rent! If I had time, I'd like to work on my golf game. :)

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  • S Simon Lee Shugar

                    I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                    Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                    1. How often do you develop outside of work?

                    About 25 hours a week.

                    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                    2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

                    They're freeware apps[^] that are in use by serveral thousand users worldwide and are actively supported by me.

                    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                    3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                    Write code, play and record music. /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    • S Simon Lee Shugar

                      I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                      Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      1. used to be close to 40hours. now it's almost none at all. 2. both. 3. http://www.smalleranimals.com

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        So how do you "sharpen your saw" and learn stuff that you don't have available at work? How do you keep your skills relevant and up to date?

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                        DanielSheets
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                        I have time at work for that. I develop industrial software (machine control, data aqusition, etc...) and I'm encouraged to seek out resources for furthering my skill level.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                          1. How often do you develop outside of work?

                          I'd say that anywhere from 25% to 50% of my time, I'm developing stuff outside of work. For example, most of these[^] are things I've worked on to further my knowledge of Ruby on Rails, and that doesn't include my latest venture, arctiores.herokuapp.com (ugh, I just noticed the nbsp's!) which is still a work in progress, I'll eventually publish an article on the core stuff and the UI is really raw for prototyping and playing around.

                          Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                          2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

                          Both. And the third category is, enhancing my "portfolio", aka resume.

                          Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                          3. What do you like to work on outside of work?

                          I love metadata concepts and looking at new and different ways to work with technologies, data, databases, relationships between data, and just goofing around with different concepts. This is also the impetus for a lot of my articles. Besides programming, I also am involved with some interesting community stuff, like generosity communities, needs & gifts, investment opportunity networks, spiritual studies (yes, I have strong spiritual convictions as well.) Sometimes there's a synergy between my non-programming activities and what I do programming wise. The needs & gifts site and the Arctiores site are examples. And of course, I love writing, and CP is a great outlet for that. Oh, and I'm learning to play the lyre. A lovely instrument! Marc

                          Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          A lovely instrument!

                          Lyre! Oh, and I think you mean this[^] link.

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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            A lovely instrument!

                            Lyre! Oh, and I think you mean this[^] link.

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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            Oh, and I think you mean this[^] link.

                            :-D I had to do the href tag manually because the URL didn't start with "http" and I was being hasty! Marc

                            Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                            • S Simon Lee Shugar

                              I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                              Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                              Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                              2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

                              It never starts of like a project; it often happens when you want to try some code and keep adding. "I've never solved the travelling salesman problem" "Geocoding? Never heard of it, time to Google" "Now how do I get the distance between two points?" "It'd be cool if I could show that path on a map" "Can I run this when I boot into Ubuntu?" "That's weird, it doesn't compile anymore - where did those 40 compile-errors come from?" ..and just as you want to get some sleep, you look at the time and wonder if the sun is up already.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                              • S Simon Lee Shugar

                                I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                                Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                                I'm working on a web site for a local speed shop after hours (barter for labor on future planned work)

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                                  1. How often do you develop outside of work?

                                  I'd say that anywhere from 25% to 50% of my time, I'm developing stuff outside of work. For example, most of these[^] are things I've worked on to further my knowledge of Ruby on Rails, and that doesn't include my latest venture, arctiores.herokuapp.com (ugh, I just noticed the nbsp's!) which is still a work in progress, I'll eventually publish an article on the core stuff and the UI is really raw for prototyping and playing around.

                                  Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                                  2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

                                  Both. And the third category is, enhancing my "portfolio", aka resume.

                                  Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                                  3. What do you like to work on outside of work?

                                  I love metadata concepts and looking at new and different ways to work with technologies, data, databases, relationships between data, and just goofing around with different concepts. This is also the impetus for a lot of my articles. Besides programming, I also am involved with some interesting community stuff, like generosity communities, needs & gifts, investment opportunity networks, spiritual studies (yes, I have strong spiritual convictions as well.) Sometimes there's a synergy between my non-programming activities and what I do programming wise. The needs & gifts site and the Arctiores site are examples. And of course, I love writing, and CP is a great outlet for that. Oh, and I'm learning to play the lyre. A lovely instrument! Marc

                                  Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                  S Douglas
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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  I love metadata concepts and looking at new and different ways to work with technologies, data, databases, relationships between data

                                  Multidimensional databases are cool stuff, just wish I had more time to build them rather than fix what others have broken.


                                  Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    I love metadata concepts and looking at new and different ways to work with technologies, data, databases, relationships between data

                                    Multidimensional databases are cool stuff, just wish I had more time to build them rather than fix what others have broken.


                                    Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                    S Douglas wrote:

                                    just wish I had more time to build them rather than fix what others have broken.

                                    Amen to that. I've been in "upgrade" and "debug" mode for the last year on a couple projects. I end up doing a lot of personal stuff because otherwise I would be starved--architecture and design is really what I love, and I only *really* like coding when it's on a new project, rather than working around the tragedies of others' code. Marc

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                                      Almost never. I get enough of it at work.

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                                      Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                      I thought the same. Then I downloaded my personal code from FTP and put it onto a machine for a work-related monitoring project. It felt like falling in love. I love my personal projects, in a way I'm not allowed to at work because I'm constantly forced to 'leave my ego outside', or I get reassigned or because somebody tells me how to do it. If only people understood ownership of projects, the work would be better, more enjoyable and more efficient. Pair Programming?

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                                      • S Simon Lee Shugar

                                        I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                                        Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                                        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                                        How often do you develop outside of work?

                                        Not as often as I wish. Most of the time I have little to no available time (pun intended) to devote to any personal (or otherwise) pursuits outside of work an family.

                                        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                                        Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?

                                        Generally personal. Though I have 2 projects I would like to promote commercially.

                                        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                                        What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                                        Games. Browser based (HTML5/Canvas/javascript) and tabletop (board games). Then again, my latest project was a life-sized drawing of a Barbie I made on the door of my daughters' room to use as a ruler for measuring their height progress. It's a Barbie drawing with a ruler on the side, where I mark each one's height and date measured. They're 4 and 2 years old now.

                                        Φευ! Εδόμεθα υπό ρηννοσχήμων λύκων! (Alas! We're devoured by lamb-guised wolves!)

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                                        • S Simon Lee Shugar

                                          I tend to always think I need to invest more time into my non-work related projects, be it writing or programming. I typically do an hour a day outside of work hours. I'll be starting a new development project this week which will really just be an enviroment for me to play about with a few new technologies and techniques but could possibly lead to more. My questions to everyone and anyone is? 1. How often do you develop outside of work? 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? 3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)

                                          Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                                          1. How often do you develop outside of work? Not as often as I would like. I would love to spend more time developing and experimenting outside of the office. Most of my time at home is enjoying my time with my 2 year old. 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point? Most of the projects that I have worked on are personal. There are many things that we think about needing at home for our own use that I mess around with. Most recently I have been throwing together plans for my father in laws business. He needs an inventory and I am in the processing of getting a proposal together to share with him. If he likes it, I can make the basics and then keep improving it for him. I know there are inventory apps out there, but this would be tailored to his needs specifically and only have what he needs.

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