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  • M Marc Clifton

    Brisingr Aerowing wrote:

    That was caused by the search index

    Bleah. One of the first things I do when installing Windows is turn off search indexing. I know where my files are. Marc

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    kdmote
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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    I know where my files are.

    Hah! You use files? I just do all my work in one massive Notepad page. Then I have a spiral-ring notebook at my desk with a list of everything and the paragraph number where I can find it. And to keep my hard-drive really streaming, I don't save anything. If I ever have to shut down my computer, I just print out the Notepad page, and then scan it back in on startup.

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      I know where my files are.

      Hah! You use files? I just do all my work in one massive Notepad page. Then I have a spiral-ring notebook at my desk with a list of everything and the paragraph number where I can find it. And to keep my hard-drive really streaming, I don't save anything. If I ever have to shut down my computer, I just print out the Notepad page, and then scan it back in on startup.

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      kdmote wrote:

      And to keep my hard-drive really streaming,

      I'm surprised you don't use your hard drive as a paper weight to keep the mountain of paper from falling over! ;) Marc

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      • M Marc Clifton

        ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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        ssadler
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        Having 4K of RAM on my first computer (home built S100 bus Z80 system). All I had was a 2K monitor program (Zapple) that would allow me to dump memory, peak/poke memory, read/write at I/O ports, etc. I learned to program the Z80 by the numbers since Zapple had no programming languages. I eventually wirewrapped a FSK board to be able to save programs to cassette tape. Since I had a reel-to-reel recorder I was able to up the speed from 1200 baud an amazing 9600 baud!! Fun times in the 70s.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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          BobJanova
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          I think we all get used to what we first know. I'm of a similar vintage to you in this regard in that I started out with tens of megabytes (I remember the 'big' second hard drive my dad bought for our main home PC at the time ... a massive 200MB!) and find it hard to believe just how big things are today. Never mind hard drives, I can carry 8GB in my pocket. Data transfer rates are amazing too. A gigabit network is a magical thing. I downloaded the (rather good) Planetside 2 over my home wireless network ... 8 gig or something like that in a matter of minutes. Anyone else remember in the mid 90s some time there was a film where the main plot device was that they loaded some guy's brain with a vast amount of super secret data so he could get that data to his paymasters? They loaded him up over the recommended capacity of the device and it leaked into his personality. (It wasn't a great film and I saw it on TV.) I think the vast amount of data was 3GB or something, clearly chosen to be way too big to imagine small chips being able to hold it at the time. Nowadays you could just smuggle a MicroSD card by swallowing it or something.

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            Having 4K of RAM on my first computer (home built S100 bus Z80 system). All I had was a 2K monitor program (Zapple) that would allow me to dump memory, peak/poke memory, read/write at I/O ports, etc. I learned to program the Z80 by the numbers since Zapple had no programming languages. I eventually wirewrapped a FSK board to be able to save programs to cassette tape. Since I had a reel-to-reel recorder I was able to up the speed from 1200 baud an amazing 9600 baud!! Fun times in the 70s.

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            Marc Clifton
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            ssadler wrote:

            I was able to up the speed from 1200 baud an amazing 9600 baud!! Fun times in the 70s.

            That's really cool. Yeah, the 70's and 80's were definitely the "hobbyist era". Maybe things like the Raspberry Pi bring those days back to some extent. Marc

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            • M Marc Clifton

              ssadler wrote:

              I was able to up the speed from 1200 baud an amazing 9600 baud!! Fun times in the 70s.

              That's really cool. Yeah, the 70's and 80's were definitely the "hobbyist era". Maybe things like the Raspberry Pi bring those days back to some extent. Marc

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              Yeah, the Pi isn't doing it at the low level OS/assembler level, but it certainly brings the 'just playing around' on the software level into the reaches of interested children and people who don't want to drop £500 on their hobby.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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                I don't remember when computers were just dumb terminals and they have to be connected to a powerful server somewhere else to do something useful, but retro is in, so I may still have a chance to experience this. ;P

                CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  My first hard drive was two 5 and 1/4's

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space

                    I remember the first hard disk I ever saw on a personal computer.. it was a stunning 5MB. It was larger than the computer it was connected to. It was an staggering amount of space when significant programs could be measured in 10s of K. Visiting the friends who had it was also the first all-nigher I ever did.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left

                    I also remember when NT could install to my 150MB Wren 3, and still have significant space for user data left over. Ahh.. now that was a disk drive. Turning it on made a sound like a small jet engine starting up. I used to joke about having the only jet-powered PC :).

                    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                      In my first job we had one hard drive in the company, there were 4 of us on Apple II's running ProDOS and the bose would run builds on a 5MB hard drive. Sounded like a jet taking off when he started it up.

                      VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                      I worked at one of the first computer stores in the Chicago area and we sold Alpha Micro timesharing systems. We got a CDC Hawk drive 5 MB fixed and 5 MB removable. Our first thought was that we'd never fill it. Two weeks later...

                      Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                      • R RafagaX

                        I don't remember when computers were just dumb terminals and they have to be connected to a powerful server somewhere else to do something useful, but retro is in, so I may still have a chance to experience this. ;P

                        CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        RafagaX wrote:

                        I don't remember when computers were just dumb terminals and they have to be connected to a powerful server somewhere else to do something useful,

                        You must not use Windows 8. ;) Marc

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                          I worked at one of the first computer stores in the Chicago area and we sold Alpha Micro timesharing systems. We got a CDC Hawk drive 5 MB fixed and 5 MB removable. Our first thought was that we'd never fill it. Two weeks later...

                          Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                          Mike Hankey
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                          I never got to see what all they stored on the bosses drive but I bet there was some versioning and other stuff where they probably had it filled too!

                          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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                            firegryphon
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                            5 MB TRS-80 Hard Drive. nuf said. Now I have a pair of 1 TB SSDs in my laptop... I haven't got that red message though.

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                              I use Everything search, since it bypasses Windows entirely and just reads the drive header. :-D Only for NTFS drives though, but it can filter hundreds of thousands of filenames as you type without any pausing, from my experience. Freeware, too.

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                              grralph1
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                              Thanks for the link. Excellent Utility. :thumbsup: Now I can Remember Everything.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

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                                I think the first PC I owned was 1GB. (It was huge) The first company PC the whole office shared was 2 floppy drives and a 10MB drive. I had to support two different OSs, so I partitioned the drive into 2 and 8 MB and used the floppy to switch the primary partition or just booted from floppy. I'm not sure but I think this was the biggest HD available at the time. (I was one of two "techies" in the office and I was appointed head keeper of the monster.) I hated it so much, I used my own money to build a custom computer desk when such a thing couldn't be bought. Who knows, the sales reps were so impressed, they invited clients to see software (their job) and they just "had" to come over and see what I built. So I might have invented the computer desk, because it was on the market a few months after I built it. (Idiot. I hated the PC so much, didn't even think of copywriting something that made it more bearable.) My laptop I'm writing on is sitting on (where else?) my lap. OK, Sometimes I pull out a foldable desk (TV tray??), but usually it is more trouble than it is worth. Also, the 16 bit PC was a joke. I'd supported and used 60 bit mainframes (real computers) for 20 years. I looked down on the IBM mainframes because they were 32 bit devices and I supported the scientific world where accuracy was supreme. (CDC supported double, but its real was 2 digits more accurate than IBM's double. Integer had 18 vs. 9 place accuracy.) The last few years I'd also supported the Cray. (64 bit, integer was only 1 digit more accurate, real was the same accuracy - more accurate than today's double. MUCH faster, maybe could keep up with today's PC.) Today's PC is 64 bit, but you have to use long to get 18 place accuracy.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Brisingr Aerowing wrote:

                                  That was caused by the search index

                                  Bleah. One of the first things I do when installing Windows is turn off search indexing. I know where my files are. Marc

                                  Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                  Stefan_Lang
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                                  Me too. Plus I know how much of a pain the search engine can be when you keep modifying/creating stuff (such as object files) at a rapid pace. Even worse, since W8 the search engine also searches the Cloud, and by extension, the entire web. Come on Microsoft, we don't have the storage capacity of the NSA at home just yet! Nor do we wish to serve as NSA botnet!

                                  GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    ...when 1 GB was a phenomenally huge amount of disk space (my first hard disk was 20MB!) Now Windows gives me a red "running low on disk space bar" and I still have 3GB left!!! :omg: Marc

                                    Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                    when I had to enter my bios by hand when my clock speed jumped from 1MHz to 2MHz when my HD was 5M when my RAM was 32K http://www.imsai.net/

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