Cricket: Akhtar Express derailed!

Rohit Sinha

Rama Krishna wrote: I missed the first few overs though. Ah, but those were the most fun to watch. A real treat for any Cricket fan, especially Indians. :cool:
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Rohit Sinha

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Paul Watson

Rohit Sinha wrote: I hope you are wrong Paul! So am I Rohit. Heard it on the radio on my way home. Can't find anything on the web yet, if I do will post. Apparently as you hint Indian Hindus are accusing Indian Muslims of secretly supporting Pakistan and not India. Indians (all of them) should be out celebrating and giving everyong a hug, not looking to whom they can hate. And after all the two teams did to show fans that this should be a day of friendship and good natured rivalry. There were also some "fisticuffs" in the crowd during the match.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

Rohit Sinha

Paul Watson wrote: Apparently as you hint Indian Hindus are accusing Indian Muslims of secretly supporting Pakistan and not India. Actually both Hindus and Muslims are to be blamed here, not just the Hindus. There are quite a few Muslims in India which do secretly and sometimes openly support Pakistan. It's OK if it is Pakistan vs someone else, but when it is against India, you can't help but feel that these people would be better off in Pakistan, not in India. When you see someone lighting a firecracker when an Indian player gets out on a Pakistani bowler's ball, you just have to clench your teeth in agony, pretend nothing happened and move on. But not everyone can do this. Remember how sentimental India is about Cricket. And don't forget that India-Pakistan relations aren't the sweetest either. And Hindus on their part, (because of such Muslims) assume that just because someone is a Muslim, he/she is pro Pakistan and anti India. This is wrong. Not correct. I know many Muslims of both the varieties personally. And some I've seen in trains and buses and other places. So when you translate this Hindu-Muslim thing to India-Pakistan, you will get much much more than just friction. Most Indians hate the guts of Pakistanis, and the feeling is returned with interest and more (bombs, terrorism, ...) from the other side. The situation is terrible. I am trying my best to get people to overcome this feeling of hate, because it is not going to get us anywhere. And I am also trying to get the support of some Pakistani people on CP here to do the same thing in Pakistan. Politicians and religious leaders cannot solve the problem. They had their chance for all these years, and they have only made the situation worse. And what is worse, they don't want to solve the problem, because this is how they can ensure their win in the next elections. It's all their creation. It is now up to us, the people, the common man on the street, to get up and do something. I believe that when the people in India and Pakistan stop hating each other, the problem will automatically be solved and we can be friends again. Anyway, I am rambling now, someone stop me. :~
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Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the

Paul Watson

Rohit Sinha wrote: And what is worse, they don't want to solve the problem, because this is how they can ensure their win in the next elections. It's all their creation. It is now up to us, the people, the common man on the street, to get up and do something. I believe that when the people in India and Pakistan stop hating each other, the problem will automatically be solved and we can be friends again. So true, all of that, the good and the bad. It is quite mad that two nations of hundreds of thousands, millions even, of acres each is fighting over a tiny area of land. My sig has a lot to do with this. It seems a sickness amongst leaders to find themselves in situations that they feel pushing on with the madness is preferable to being humble and admiting to their mistakes. Shall be many thousands of years before humanity changes enough to get through this way of thinking IMO. Rohit Sinha wrote: Anyway, I am rambling now, someone stop me No don't stop :) Have to make people aware, both in and out of India and Pakistan. Show other tolerant but hidden minds that they are not alone in their thoughts.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

Rohit Sinha

Paul Watson wrote: It seems a sickness amongst leaders to find themselves in situations that they feel pushing on with the madness is preferable to being humble and admiting to their mistakes. Not just that, they find it in their own interest to ride the wave and get more votes. And it's them who fuel the fire. Because this is much easier than getting votes based on actual performance, on issues that actually matter, such as economy, education, health, infrastructure, etc etc. Paul Watson wrote: Show other tolerant but hidden minds that they are not alone in their thoughts. Believe it or not Paul, it was one of your posts that inspired me to start working for my beliefs. I was one of those millions and billions who think they can't make a difference, because they are alone, and what can poor me do type. It was one of your posts, long long long back, about the power of the common man, your example of Nelson Mandela, how things will start changing when more and more people stand up for what they believe. Not just one post, but I think many such posts. I think this is the single biggest thing that I got from CP. I think it's time I gave credit where credit is due. So, thank you Paul! :) :rose: Well, here is one more common man standing up and waving his hands now. :) As far as I am concerned, the C in CP is as much about Community as it is about Code. :cool: If you think what I just said is a bit too corny, let me assure you that it's not corny for me, and I'm not drunk, completely sober, had zero drops of alcohol today, and I've not smoked anything or had any tablets or injections, or anything. This post is 100% Rohitural. :-D
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Rohit Sinha

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pankajdaga

Brilliant, brilliant match!! Loved every minute of it. Too bad Sachin could not get to his century, but what a rollicking start by Sehwag and the little master. I hope Paul is wrong about the riots. Sports is suppose to bring people together and not create further rifts. Sad state of affairs, if this is indeed true. I did not hear anything so far though. Pankaj P.S: Bring on the Aussies :) We are taking the cup home this time! Without struggle, there is no progress

Rohit Sinha

pankajdaga wrote: Too bad Sachin could not get to his century Yes indeed. I still feel that if he had taken a runner a bit earlier, maybe, just maybe, he wouldn't have broken his concentration, what with the pain and then the physio coming in. pankajdaga wrote: I did not hear anything so far though. Neither did I, even this morning, and hopefully the incident was really small or did not happen at all. So far the news is still showing how we won and how Indians are celebrating, all over India and all over the world. :) pankajdaga wrote: Bring on the Aussies :) We are taking the cup home this time! Right on, mate! Time to repeat the 1983. Our confidence is on a new high, and all the players except our captain ( X| ) is in the best of form it seems. :cool:
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Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
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Lost User

On this wicket if Bangladesh was playing in place of India, the results would have been the same. There was no chance at all for Pakistan to win this one after scoring less than 320. The pitch was not supporting bowlers at all. Sachin, of course is a big asset of India team. BTW, we are still not out of the tournoument. We will watch Sunday's match with more entusiasm that the India's match. If Aussies kill England then we may reach super sixes and have one more chance to take revenge from India in Semis

John theKing

If i am not wrong, then i think that Pakistani government has not made any restriction on their team to play against India. India is itself not playing with Pakistan as i read from CNN-SI that "under the hood" Indian government has a fear of public reaction if the lose against Pak.

Imran Farooqui

Rohit Sinha wrote: And congrats to the Pakistanis too, for the wonderful performance by their team. :((:((:(( :zzz::zzz::zzz: Rohit Sinha wrote: The Pakistanis had put up a good score, and with the kind of bowling attack that they have, I was very skeptical about the Indian performance. Strange, because after Pakistan's innings, analysts here already predicted that the score was too less than enough and public was "prepared" in advance to take this shock. Rohit Sinha wrote: And the Indians and Pakistanis were playing against each other after almost 3 years and we have many players in our team who were facing them for the first time. And now when Pakistan team is facing the worst scenario of its history, then i hope that your government will allow your cricket board to start playing against their traditional rivals. Congratulations to you and your entire nation. But atleast your players should have given "return tickets" to our cricketers as a symbol of "courtesy". Instead they passed this "duty" to Australia and Zim :-D

Rohit Sinha

Sigh. I don't know about the Pakistani government, but yes, Indian government has placed restrictions on playing any sport, not just Cricket with Pakistan, in either India or Pakistan. But on neutral grounds, when more than just India and Pakistan are playing, there are no restrictions whatsoever. And before you mention Sharjah, let me tell you that Sharjah is a different story altogether. We don't go to Sharjah to play since a number of years now, much before these restrictions were imposed. These restrictions are not because "the government is afriad of losing the match and hence losing face", as some pseudo-know-all-but-actually-stupid "journalist" puts it. Winning and losing is a part and parcel of every game. The restrictions are there because of safety concernes and as a protest against the alleged support to terrorists from Pakistan. This is not just in sports, but in all activities.
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Rohit Sinha

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Rohit Sinha

Kashif-Al-Hussain wrote: On this wicket if Bangladesh was playing in place of India, the results would have been the same. There was no chance at all for Pakistan to win this one after scoring less than 320. The pitch was not supporting bowlers at all. Sachin, of course is a big asset of India team. I would have agreed with you except for the fact that Pakistani bowlers can blow the Bangladeshis away with half a fart in their general direction. India did bat well, and that was the reason they won. As for the pitch supporting batsmen, both Pakistan and India got a chance to bat. You can't say that India won just because the pitch supported batsmen. What happened to Pakistani batsmen then? Kashif-Al-Hussain wrote: If Aussies kill England then we may reach super sixes and have one more chance to take revenge from India in Semis Sure! Best of luck man! Provided you reach the semis. Though I won't call it revenge, as you put it. And if this is any comfort to your bleeding heart, let me tell you that in all the ODI matches between India and Pakistan, including yesterday's, India has won 30, and Pakistan has won 52! That's a lot of difference, isn't it? But so far India has never lost to Pakistan in a world cup match. :)
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Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
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Rohit Sinha

Imran Farooqui wrote: Strange, because after Pakistan's innings, analysts here already predicted that the score was too less than enough and public was "prepared" in advance to take this shock. Well, I never pay much attention to the "analysis". :-D I prefer to rely on my own analysis and be proved wrong instead. :) Imran Farooqui wrote: Congratulations to you and your entire nation. Thanks! Imran Farooqui wrote: But atleast your players should have given "return tickets" to our cricketers as a symbol of "courtesy". Well, there is still chance of your guys making it to the Super Six. :-D :rose:
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Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln

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John theKing

Rohit Sinha wrote: This is not just in sports, but in all activities. But why only cricket?? You people played every other game against each other in your native countries during the last 3 years. (Yes, this year for the first time you are not participating in something called SAARC game because of security concerns but i think the other countries are participating in SAARC and none of them complained anything) Rohit Sinha wrote: But on neutral grounds, when more than just India and Pakistan are playing, there are no restrictions whatsoever. This decision was taken just before recent world cup, had there been no tournouments in last three years in which both teams are invited? I think there were many but India refused to go (Bangladesh, Zimbabwe are currently in my mind)

Imran Farooqui

Rohit Sinha wrote: What happened to Pakistani batsmen then? Pakistani batsmen are not in good form these days. They only scored 270 runs in 3 match test series against Australia right after they beat Australia in Australia. They are practicing with Gilli-Danda these days.

Rohit Sinha

John-theKing wrote: Yes, this year for the first time you are not participating in something called SAARC game because of security concerns but i think the other countries are participating in SAARC and none of them complained anything That's because of the recent increase in terrorist activity and the hostility towards Indians in the general Pakistani public. We cannot take any risk. Other countries teams are feeling safe I guess because their is no such hostility towards them. On the one hand Pakistan talks about peace, but on the other hand they have ISI agents stationed in India, and terrorist activity and cross border infiltration and firing is on the rise. Your leader knows how to play the cards very well, just like Saddam. You seem to be "really informed" about Indian politics. Who are you and where are you from, Mr Anonymous John-theKing? :) Since this thread seems to be going where I think it is going, and since what I think is happening indeed seems to be happening, I will stop replying to you here unless you log in as yourself to answer this post. Listen man. This pseudo nationalism is not going to get you or me anywhere. So let's stop this non sense right now.
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Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
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Rohit Sinha

Imran Farooqui wrote: Pakistani batsmen are not in good form these days. Yes, but that can't be used as an excuse, can it? There is no denying that Pakistan is a very good team. But something has happened to them this world cup and they are not performing up to their full potential. Imran Farooqui wrote: They are practicing with Gilli-Danda these days. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Don't ridicule them much. They are having a bad day and this is the time when they need the support of you people even more. Have you had your lunch? I'm going to have mine. Kadhi and rice, mmm. You live in Pakistan right? Or are you an NRP (non Resident Pakistani)? Sorry I don't know what you call them in Pakistan, in India we call them NRIs. :-D
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Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln

The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
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John theKing

Rohit Sinha wrote: We cannot take any risk. Other countries teams are feeling safe I guess because their is no such hostility towards them Pakistan team visited India despite of threats from RSS and VHP. The pith in New Delhi was destroyed just before the first match. In Calcutta, the entire stadium was made emptied when Pakistan was about to win the match. Still Pakistan made tour of India. I never heard anything to this extent happening in Pakistan whenever Indian team visited. Rohit Sinha wrote: you log in as yourself Yes boss, i just made my profile. I am new here. But i think that web master permitted us to make anonymous posts which is not possible in lounge.

Bilal Naveed

Kashif-Al-Hussain wrote: On this wicket if Bangladesh was playing in place of India, the results would have been the same. There was no chance at all for Pakistan to win this one after scoring less than 320. The pitch was not supporting bowlers at all. Sachin, of course is a big asset of India team. No way. If our bowlers had bowled HALF as good as they can they would have made a better fight of it. As for Tendulkar, wow. What form he's in! Shake, McGrath, shake.

Rohit Sinha

John-theKing wrote: Pakistan team visited India despite of threats from RSS and VHP. The pith in New Delhi was destroyed just before the first match. In Calcutta, the entire stadium was made emptied when Pakistan was about to win the match. Still Pakistan made tour of India. I never heard anything to this extent happening in Pakistan whenever Indian team visited. Fine. So we don't want to play with you guys. We are afraid. Afraid of losing to you. Because you guys are so damn good that we are sure we are going to lose. And we have never ever lost to you and don't want to change that at this stage. And we haven't lost to anyone else either. This is why we don't want to play. Not because of terrorism. Not because Sachin and Saurav are under constant threats from terrorists and even in India they have to be accompanied by security guards. Not because so many people in India are killed every day because of terrorists. Not because Pakistan will fire shells at us when it feels like. Not because Pakistan has training camps for terrorists. Not because Pakistan started the Kargil war for no reason. Not because Pakistani agents are spread all over India. Not because they attacked the Parliament about an year ago. Not because terrorists have made the life of people in Kashmir hell. Not because you still have not handed over the 20 terrorists who are hiding in Pakistan, and the Indian government asked Pakistan to hand over to us. Not because every criminal in India can take refuge in Pakistan safely (does D-Company ring a bell? Mumbai bomb blast of 1990?). Not because every Pakistani hates the guts of every Indian. And not even because politicians are fools and will always look at a problem from a political angle, to gain political mileage out of it, and will never try to solve it. No, all this has nothing to do with why we don't play Cricket or anything else with you. This has nothing to do with why we don't want to have anything to do with you till you take a positive step in the direction of curbing terrorism. This is happening because we are afraid of losing a Cricket match. If you really believe that, you need urgent help. John-theKing wrote: Yes boss, i just made my profile. I am new here. But i think that web master permitted us to make anonymous posts which is not possible in lounge. Welcome to CP. :) I'm sure you understand that I didn't mean to say you can not post anonymously here. Of course you can. Chris (the webmaster) ha