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  • R Ron Beyer

    Who cares? Years of experience does not directly translate into skill...

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    Espen Harlinn
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    Ron Beyer wrote:

    Years of experience does not directly translate into skill

    True, but then real software development, like many other walks of life, requires experience - as it's the only practical way to actually acquire the skills needed by the profession. So, while it's true that you can work in this profession and not really acquire more than a basic set of development skills - you cannot acquire a larger set of technological skills without getting your feet wet. Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years[^]

    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      programming in 7th grade

      But were you employed to do so?

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      Marc Clifton
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      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

      But were you employed to do so?

      Well, in 8th grade I was taught how to program in the boot code for the PDP-11, which would crash frequently when the mag drive drew too much power. So, you could say I was "employed" for a very important task. ;) Marc

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      • A AmitGajjar

        Who is most senior programmer here.... ? say in programming from last 30 years or more... Although i have just started my career 6 years back as professional programming. [Edit]Here no question on skills measurement.[/Edit]

        Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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        Member 4194593
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        I started in 1965, almost 50 years ago, my how time flies when you are having fun. Dave.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          But were you employed to do so?

          Well, in 8th grade I was taught how to program in the boot code for the PDP-11, which would crash frequently when the mag drive drew too much power. So, you could say I was "employed" for a very important task. ;) Marc

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          Does this[^] bring back memories? For me, the earliest I remember was the DG Nova 3[^] - I think I started the PDP 8[^] at university quite a few times when learning it's assembler, but I've managed to forget all about that. Them was the days! When the accumulator value was permanently shown - and changing - in LEDs on the front of the box! None of this wussy "rotating circles" to show it was busy, oh, no... :laugh:

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          • A AmitGajjar

            Who is most senior programmer here.... ? say in programming from last 30 years or more... Although i have just started my career 6 years back as professional programming. [Edit]Here no question on skills measurement.[/Edit]

            Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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            H Brydon
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            I don't think you've gotten very many good answers. I started programming in 1969, and I consider myself one of the young guys. ...I first got paid for programming about 1971 (not sure of the exact date, but I remember the occasion).

            Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey

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              Does this[^] bring back memories? For me, the earliest I remember was the DG Nova 3[^] - I think I started the PDP 8[^] at university quite a few times when learning it's assembler, but I've managed to forget all about that. Them was the days! When the accumulator value was permanently shown - and changing - in LEDs on the front of the box! None of this wussy "rotating circles" to show it was busy, oh, no... :laugh:

              Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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              OriginalGriff wrote:

              Them was the days!

              Indeed they were. Having been 15 right when computers became affordable to regular people, that was quite amazing. When I was 18, my gf's father was one of the folks who was figuring out what transistors were good for, back when he was in his early 20's. Crazy stuff. Marc

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              • A AmitGajjar

                Who is most senior programmer here.... ? say in programming from last 30 years or more... Although i have just started my career 6 years back as professional programming. [Edit]Here no question on skills measurement.[/Edit]

                Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                I've been programming professionally for 30 years but I'm far from being the most senior, skilled or smart programmer you seem to be seeking out. /ravi

                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  Who is top of the list?

                  Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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                  Top person not mean the oldest guy ... he is contributing more.. my question is different.

                  Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                    I started in 1965, almost 50 years ago, my how time flies when you are having fun. Dave.

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                    AmitGajjar
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                    Woow....

                    Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                    • H H Brydon

                      I don't think you've gotten very many good answers. I started programming in 1969, and I consider myself one of the young guys. ...I first got paid for programming about 1971 (not sure of the exact date, but I remember the occasion).

                      Windows 8 is the resurrected version of Microsoft Bob. The only thing missing is the Fisher-Price logo. - Harvey

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                      You start programming when i was not born... :laugh:

                      Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                      • A AmitGajjar

                        Top person not mean the oldest guy ... he is contributing more.. my question is different.

                        Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                        @AmitGajjar wrote:

                        my question is different.

                        Your original question was "Who is most senior programmer here.... ?". In my opinion Griff gets that title by virtue of his contribution to the site. You are free to nominate anyone you think has done more.

                        Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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                        • A AmitGajjar

                          Who is most senior programmer here.... ? say in programming from last 30 years or more... Although i have just started my career 6 years back as professional programming. [Edit]Here no question on skills measurement.[/Edit]

                          Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                          realJSOP
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                          I've been programming since 1979...

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            Who cares? Besides, you haven't defined "senior" yet. The number of years doesn't matter if all you've done in that time is write COBOL and hide in your cube the entire time.

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                            JimmyRopes
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                            Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                            years doesn't matter if all you've done in that time is write COBOL

                            I used to agree with that until I read a COBOL program that did bit manipulation. Then I realized that it doesn't matter what language you are using. It matters how creative you are. BTW I hate COBOL programming, I only read it because I (programmed in Assembler) was in TECH Support for a COBOL shop. I realized that talented people could adapt to any environment. I had a new respect for professional programmers after that.

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                              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                              years doesn't matter if all you've done in that time is write COBOL

                              I used to agree with that until I read a COBOL program that did bit manipulation. Then I realized that it doesn't matter what language you are using. It matters how creative you are. BTW I hate COBOL programming, I only read it because I (programmed in Assembler) was in TECH Support for a COBOL shop. I realized that talented people could adapt to any environment. I had a new respect for professional programmers after that.

                              The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                              Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              Yeah, I did the COBOL thing back in the mid-80's. Those who bitch about VB being verbose have never written anything in COBOL. Yeah, it's fun to get creative in languages like that. I actually did some of the bit manipulation you're talking about in COBOL, just for fun. I was refering to the people who don't do anything creative and never move on from their high-level language of choice.

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                I've been programming since 1979...

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                AmitGajjar
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                                35 years of journey.... really great to meet you here. And your contribution is really great.

                                Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                                • A AmitGajjar

                                  35 years of journey.... really great to meet you here. And your contribution is really great.

                                  Thanks -Amit Gajjar

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  The "journey" has turned into slogging through the mire of work environments where managers would rather pay off-shore "talent" to do my job. Add to that the ever-rising cost of tools and frameworks necessary to stay relevant in the diminishing job market, and the "advancement" of technology that makes your skill-set obsolete a week or two after you've become proficient in the last version of the latest "best practice", and I think you can understand when I say I'm ready to change professions to something where the tech has remained fairly constant for the last 50 years or so - like waste retrieval and disposal...

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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