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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    That's my point exactly. They already connected - directly or indirectly - other game developers that have 'candy' in their games name... That what I call abuse...Ever heard of patent trolls?

    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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    Lost User
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    Well patent trolls tend to patent something specifically to get money - Candy Crush trademarked the name to stop people using it in a confusing manner, making their games appear to be associated with Candy Crush. And from what I understand, Apple have contacted anyone with a game with Candy in the keywords - the Candy Crush company have stated

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    We have trademarked the word 'CANDY' in the EU, as our IP is constantly being infringed and we have to enforce our rights and to protect our players from confusion. We don't enforce against all uses of CANDY – some are legitimate and of course, we would not ask App developers who use the term legitimately to stop doing so. The particular App in this instance was called 'Candy Casino Slots – Jewels Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land', but its icon in the App Store just says 'Candy Slots', focussing heavily on our trademark. As well as infringing our and other developer's IP, use of keywords like this as an App name is also a clear breach of Apple's terms of use. We believe this App name was a a calculated attempt to use other companies’ IP to enhance its own games, through means such as search rankings."

    Which sounds quite reasonable to me

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      I was thinking about the f* word - that one can make me rich...

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      walterhevedeich
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      You mean elephant? That'll be trademarked someday. Or, has it already?

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        Well patent trolls tend to patent something specifically to get money - Candy Crush trademarked the name to stop people using it in a confusing manner, making their games appear to be associated with Candy Crush. And from what I understand, Apple have contacted anyone with a game with Candy in the keywords - the Candy Crush company have stated

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        We have trademarked the word 'CANDY' in the EU, as our IP is constantly being infringed and we have to enforce our rights and to protect our players from confusion. We don't enforce against all uses of CANDY – some are legitimate and of course, we would not ask App developers who use the term legitimately to stop doing so. The particular App in this instance was called 'Candy Casino Slots – Jewels Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land', but its icon in the App Store just says 'Candy Slots', focussing heavily on our trademark. As well as infringing our and other developer's IP, use of keywords like this as an App name is also a clear breach of Apple's terms of use. We believe this App name was a a calculated attempt to use other companies’ IP to enhance its own games, through means such as search rankings."

        Which sounds quite reasonable to me

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        Herbie Mountjoy
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        Hang on. You mean they are claiming they can retrospectively apply this?

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          That's the point - they have no right to the name candy (and if you read the patent it also on education and clothing - patent[^]), so they use the power of money they have to buy something not meant to be on sale...

          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Well, clothing is obvious if you have seen all the angry birds merchandise. What makes me a bit angry is that there are no time limit on those rights. Well there is in theory, but that limit is changed upward every time Mickey Mouse comes near it, which would be before 2018.

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          • H H Brydon

            Don't get too upset. It is not much different from somebody getting a trademark on "Windows", "Apple" or "eunuch". In fact, Steve Jobs' company got in more than a little trouble with the music company that handled the music from The Beatles.

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            GuyThiebaut
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            H.Brydon wrote:

            In fact, Steve Jobs' company got in more than a little trouble with the music company that handled the music from The Beatles.

            I had one of the early Apple laptops back in 1991 and the default startup sound file was called sosumi

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            • C Christian Graus

              In fact, that's where the name came from in the first place.

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              Simon ORiordan from UK
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              Think I'll patent Quantitave Easing. The sue the US Govt. for everything they stole.

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                Duncan Edwards Jones
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                So if I call my next software product "iCandy" I can expect a perfect storm of legal attention?

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                • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                  So if I call my next software product "iCandy" I can expect a perfect storm of legal attention?

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                  enhzflep
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                  If you did that, I imagine that the answer to the following question would be 'you'. What's between junk-food and health-food?

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                  • W walterhevedeich

                    You mean elephant? That'll be trademarked someday. Or, has it already?

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                    walterhevedeich wrote:

                    You mean elephant? That'll be trademarked someday. Or, has it already?

                    All over it like white on rice.

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      But what will Barf[^] call himself now? :)


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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                        paulhurm
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                        Quick... Figure out the top 5 key words used for web site names. Trademark them. Collect $$$ from all sites that use those words. Retire...

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          That's my point exactly. They already connected - directly or indirectly - other game developers that have 'candy' in their games name... That what I call abuse...Ever heard of patent trolls?

                          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                          H Brydon
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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                          That what I call abuse...Ever heard of patent trolls?

                          You are confusing trademarks with patents. To add to the confusion, both are granted by the same organization ("PTO" is Patent and Trademark Office). A patent is something that grants ownership of a process. A trademark is something that grants ownership of an image. [... and a copyright is something that grants ownership of a text stream.] A patent troll is someone that acquires and enforces a simple or simplistic patent with force beyond what is reasonable. Someone that owns a trademark (almost every company in the known world) has legal ownership of something. I can't imagine any activity that would make a trademark enforcement party a patent troll. The two concepts are different.

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            What make me upset, is that apparently they trademarked the word just for suing other game makers - probably to make there share larger... X|

                            I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                            H Brydon
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                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                            What make me upset, is that apparently they trademarked the word just for suing other game makers ...

                            That is in fact one of the main purposes of obtaining a trademark. ... and it happens all the time. Coca-Cola and Pepsi have 2 of the strongest trademarks in the world, and they are forever in litigation with abusers of their trademarks.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Apart from establishing their right to the name in that sphere, what else could they do ?

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                              GenJerDan
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                              Kill them. It would onoy take a few, then the rest would decease and desist.

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                              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                KLPounds
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                                This is so silly that it reminds me an old classic article from The Onion. here[^]

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                                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                  'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                  RafagaX
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                                  What about this anime: Double trademarked name anime[^]? Will it have to change it's name?

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                    'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                    Steve Mayfield
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                                    Think I will start work on: Candy Crush Saga Alternative or Not Candy Crush Saga

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      'Candy Crush' Developer Trademarks the Word Candy[^] I think that is really unbelievable. Do Oxford will have to remove the word candy from the dictionary now?!

                                      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                      John Cehowski
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                                      I'll say ridiculous - why didn't they also trademark the word "Crush"!! If I wanted to confuse someone into thinking that my game was related to Candy Crush Saga, I'd be more inclined to use the "Crush" part (or the Saga part). Like, "Vegetable Crush Saga". "Ice Cream Crush Saga" etc. To me, Crush & Saga are more unique to the company, than candy - except of course the "Orange Crush" may have already trademarked Crush. Maybe Orange Crush should be suing Candy Crush for infringing on their trademark!!!

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        I think I'll trademark the name "Beaver" so watch what you say from now on I'll be looking to collect. How freakin ridiculous.

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                                        M dHatter
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                                        I trademark the word or letter 'I' :-D

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                                        • H Herbie Mountjoy

                                          Hang on. You mean they are claiming they can retrospectively apply this?

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                                          Lost User
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                                          retrospectively back to when the word was used in their product, where they can demonstrate the use is "confusing" in some way. same as if you release a game called 'zzz blaster'. three weeks later someone else releases a game called 'zzz blasting pro'. just because you hadn't got a trademark shouldnt stop you preventing them profiting from your name. so, you trademark zzz and then can legally prevent them using the name. of course, the usual way is to ask first and proceed to trademark and lawyers if the copiers resist . but when you have as much money as king games you can afford to throw money about.

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