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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    Think of Atmel Studio as VC6 with a VS2010 IDE. It is built using an Visual Studio Isolated Shell so you should be used to the interface if you do any programming in Visual Studio. I never could get used to the Arduino IDE, I never took the time to learn it. IMHO the Arduino IDE is for more like Engineers and Hobbyists with little programming experience. You just plug the modules in that you need and go, it's pretty simple but if I were going to do a real project I wouldn't use it. Atmel Studio allows you to create reusable libraries, organize projects and hook into source control which is a biggy in my book. If you're going to get serious with embedded systems I would recommend taking the time to learn it, but if you just want to experiment it would probably be better to use the Arduino IDE. The plus side to Arduino IDE is that a lot of people have wrote module for it for just about everything and it is documented very well. That's one of the problems I have every time I get a new device I want to hook up to it I have to either convert Arduino code or start from scratch. I usually just start from scratch.

    VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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    Ron Beyer
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    Enjoy :)[^] I dislike the Arduino IDE myself, but there are ways to program the Arduino using Visual Studo or Atmel Studio, like the plugin above.

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Think of Atmel Studio as VC6 with a VS2010 IDE. It is built using an Visual Studio Isolated Shell so you should be used to the interface if you do any programming in Visual Studio. I never could get used to the Arduino IDE, I never took the time to learn it. IMHO the Arduino IDE is for more like Engineers and Hobbyists with little programming experience. You just plug the modules in that you need and go, it's pretty simple but if I were going to do a real project I wouldn't use it. Atmel Studio allows you to create reusable libraries, organize projects and hook into source control which is a biggy in my book. If you're going to get serious with embedded systems I would recommend taking the time to learn it, but if you just want to experiment it would probably be better to use the Arduino IDE. The plus side to Arduino IDE is that a lot of people have wrote module for it for just about everything and it is documented very well. That's one of the problems I have every time I get a new device I want to hook up to it I have to either convert Arduino code or start from scratch. I usually just start from scratch.

      VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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      It's mostly just tinkering for me for now...I have lots of learning curves to deal with for work so I just want something that's easy to deal with...with the Visual Micro plugin, at least I can work in my Visual Studio...the Arduino IDE is pretty crude...need it though if you're going to burn a bootloader or program a 'tiny.

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      • R Ron Beyer

        Enjoy :)[^] I dislike the Arduino IDE myself, but there are ways to program the Arduino using Visual Studo or Atmel Studio, like the plugin above.

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        Mike Hankey
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        It's a very popular addin/extension but I use the bare IDE and write mostly C++ code, occasionally C and rarely Asm code.

        VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          It's a very popular addin/extension but I use the bare IDE and write mostly C++ code, occasionally C and rarely Asm code.

          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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          At least the plugin makes Arduino bearable, the default IDE is pretty annoying.

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            It's mostly just tinkering for me for now...I have lots of learning curves to deal with for work so I just want something that's easy to deal with...with the Visual Micro plugin, at least I can work in my Visual Studio...the Arduino IDE is pretty crude...need it though if you're going to burn a bootloader or program a 'tiny.

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            Mike Hankey
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            Just stick with what you're using then, it's simple and you already know it. When you are ready you can always switch! I took the time to learn Atmel Studio because I've been using VS since it's Beta many years ago so was familiar with it. Also the last job I had we used VC++6.0 so was familiar with that aspect. It just made sense for me. Whatever the choice the object is to enjoy it and create amazing things. :)

            VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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            • R Ron Beyer

              At least the plugin makes Arduino bearable, the default IDE is pretty annoying.

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              Mike Hankey
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              Ron Beyer wrote:

              the default IDE is pretty annoying.

              Yes it is! The Atmel Studio IDE is annoying at times, it has come a long way since they released it a year or so ago but like VS it has it's little "Quirks". I'm starting to branch out and investigate other platforms like the Beaglebone Black, etc. but don't know where it will go just a curiosity or something I will pursue?

              VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                Think of Atmel Studio as VC6 with a VS2010 IDE. It is built using an Visual Studio Isolated Shell so you should be used to the interface if you do any programming in Visual Studio. I never could get used to the Arduino IDE, I never took the time to learn it. IMHO the Arduino IDE is for more like Engineers and Hobbyists with little programming experience. You just plug the modules in that you need and go, it's pretty simple but if I were going to do a real project I wouldn't use it. Atmel Studio allows you to create reusable libraries, organize projects and hook into source control which is a biggy in my book. If you're going to get serious with embedded systems I would recommend taking the time to learn it, but if you just want to experiment it would probably be better to use the Arduino IDE. The plus side to Arduino IDE is that a lot of people have wrote module for it for just about everything and it is documented very well. That's one of the problems I have every time I get a new device I want to hook up to it I have to either convert Arduino code or start from scratch. I usually just start from scratch.

                VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                Lost User
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                Did you look at Eclipse? I have been using it with the avr plugin to do Arduino development in c++. It works fine for me particularly as I had already installed it for Android development.

                Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                • L Lost User

                  Did you look at Eclipse? I have been using it with the avr plugin to do Arduino development in c++. It works fine for me particularly as I had already installed it for Android development.

                  Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                  When I first got into embedded I did a lot of research and Eclipse was one of the IDE's I looked at but it's lack of debugging and complexity scared me off. I started using AVR Studio which was a precursor to the Atmel Studio and just stayed with them. I'm really pissed with them right now though because I had an AVRDragon, nice tool when it works and when I updated the IDE they always ask for the tools to be updated and the Dragon failed to update and it bricked it. It was $50 so I'm not happy about my $50 paper weight.

                  VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    Awesome little device. Got it setup and running in a short time, very intuitive and easy. Now to learn Linux and want to do some development in Python. I'm excited...of course at my age it don't take much.

                    VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    I'm excited...of course at my age it don't take much takes something really perverted.

                    FTFY :-D

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Awesome little device. Got it setup and running in a short time, very intuitive and easy. Now to learn Linux and want to do some development in Python. I'm excited...of course at my age it don't take much.

                      VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                      :thumbsup:

                      Veni, vidi, vici.

                      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                        I'm excited...of course at my age it don't take much takes something really perverted.

                        FTFY :-D

                        The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        :laugh: Who me?

                        VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          :laugh: Who me?

                          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                          JimmyRopes
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                          If you are anything like me! :sigh:

                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          • L Lost User

                            Congratulations. I looked at the BBB but am waiting for the Arduino Tre. I hope it materialises.

                            Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                            Brisingr Aerowing
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                            Initiating 'ME WANT!' sequence.

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