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  • R Rage

    I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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    Marc A Brown
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    I have. It was like a service pack (unless you're upgrading from the beta).

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    • R Rage

      I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      Lost User
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      the upgrading process scans and fixes a lot of driver issues and fixes your registry. It looks like a good idea to upgrade.

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        Where it is better then 7?

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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        Rob Grainger
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        Off the top of my head. 1. Startup time - drastically improved. 2. Memory requirements - improved. 3. File System performance - improved. You know, the core functions of an O/S. Apart from that, follow the herd and ignore it.

        "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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        • R Rob Grainger

          Off the top of my head. 1. Startup time - drastically improved. 2. Memory requirements - improved. 3. File System performance - improved. You know, the core functions of an O/S. Apart from that, follow the herd and ignore it.

          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          1. I can't remember when my OS was down last time... 2. For sure - no parallel applications so no memory needs... 3. You may got a new SSD with it :) It has a too hard Microsoft way or no-way build into it. OS is not only performance but usability and user-friendly. You just got an enlarged phone... But it's OK with me - I'm on Fedora 5 years already and all my Windows machines are virtual...(including one 8.1)

          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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          • R Rage

            I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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            mikepwilson
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            I like it. A couple definite improvements. But then Win 8 didn't give me a case of the whinebags either, so YMMV.

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            • C Clark Kent123

              I would say it's like a service pack. It's not bad of an update. I have only noticed a few changes that I don't mind. Personally, I don't mind Win 8. Not calling it the greatest OS, but it is certainly not the worst.

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              Joe Woodbury
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              I've not only gotten used to it, I kind of prefer it now over Windows 7. If I could get an inexpensive copy, I'd use it as an excuse to buy an SSD for my home system and use it instead of Win 7. For $99, it isn't worth the hassle.

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                1. I can't remember when my OS was down last time... 2. For sure - no parallel applications so no memory needs... 3. You may got a new SSD with it :) It has a too hard Microsoft way or no-way build into it. OS is not only performance but usability and user-friendly. You just got an enlarged phone... But it's OK with me - I'm on Fedora 5 years already and all my Windows machines are virtual...(including one 8.1)

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                Rob Grainger
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                Have you actually used Windows 8.1 though? From your response it doesn't sound like it! "No parallel applications" - absolute nonsense. It still runs Win32/64 software exactly as before. The disk performance is greatly improved - its not an SSD thing. Measured by Cakewalk (who create Audio software - where disk IO is very important). I turn off my PC between use to conserve power. For a server I'd either run Linux or Windows Server depending on the environment and app requirements.

                "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                • R Rob Grainger

                  Have you actually used Windows 8.1 though? From your response it doesn't sound like it! "No parallel applications" - absolute nonsense. It still runs Win32/64 software exactly as before. The disk performance is greatly improved - its not an SSD thing. Measured by Cakewalk (who create Audio software - where disk IO is very important). I turn off my PC between use to conserve power. For a server I'd either run Linux or Windows Server depending on the environment and app requirements.

                  "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  Yes I'm testing legacy applications on Windows 8.1. Metro part of Windows 8 are not running in multitasking but using the same model Windows Phone uses... By the way. It's not only me (and some CP guys) who tells that Windows 8 is no good - see sells...

                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    Yes I'm testing legacy applications on Windows 8.1. Metro part of Windows 8 are not running in multitasking but using the same model Windows Phone uses... By the way. It's not only me (and some CP guys) who tells that Windows 8 is no good - see sells...

                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                    Rob Grainger
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                    "Metro part of Windows 8 are not running in multitasking but using the same model Windows Phone uses..." Again untrue - you can run multiple app's, even side-by-side. If you don't choose to run Windows 8, that's fine, but its amazing how much FUD there is about it. I mainly just use it as a better Windows 7.

                    "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      Yes I'm testing legacy applications on Windows 8.1. Metro part of Windows 8 are not running in multitasking but using the same model Windows Phone uses... By the way. It's not only me (and some CP guys) who tells that Windows 8 is no good - see sells...

                      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                      Rob Grainger
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                      In the NewUI, app's can run side-by-side on the screen - as such that is multitasking, in the full sense of the term. Windows 8.1 improves support for this, allowing more side-by-side app's. For an optimised experience on tablets, when an app is not on the screen, it switches to suspend state to avoid using resources. This makes sense for app's that follow that model. A bit like most browsers suspend processing on background tabs for exactly the same reason. This is improved system management of multitasking, not "not multitasking". For desktop app's the model remains mostly the same. "see sells..." Is that Chris Sells, who's busy writing a book on building Win8 app's with JavaScript (http://www.sellsbrothers.com/Posts/Details/12718[^]). I can't find any material from him about Win 8 in a negative light. I get that a lot of people (myself included) are not fans of the Windows 8 NewUI, but arguing based on FUD is no way to present a coherent case.

                      "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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