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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Reformat the whole lot to Whitesmiths style! Then you can breathe easy... :laugh:

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    Espen Harlinn
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    Reformat the whole lot to Whitesmiths style!

    I came to C/C++ from turbo pascal - so naturally I did C/C++ in the Whitesmiths style ... I still guess that the primary reason for

    void foo() {
    }

    was the 12" monitors of yesteryears ... On the other hand, I guess the best reason for having a coding style-guide is to avoid wasting time discussing coding styles.

    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Code VB instead! *Hides* :D

      It's an OO world.

      public class Sander : Lazy<Person>{
      public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
      }

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      Keith Barrow
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      Giving up coding seems a bit of an overreaction...

      PB 369,783 wrote:

      I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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      • D Dan Neely

        ... is code that is written using a mix of brace styles. For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform; and most of the sample app code they've provided looks like this:

        PhotoBomberApp::PhotoBomberApp()
        {
        // Create a QMLDocument and load it, using build patterns
        QmlDocument *qml = QmlDocument::create("asset:///main.qml");

        qml->setContextProperty("\_photoBomber", this);
        
        if (!qml->hasErrors()) {
            // The application Page is created from QML.
            Page \*appPage = qml->createRootObject<Page>();
        
            if (appPage) {
        
                // Set the application scene.
                Application::instance()->setScene(appPage);
            }
        }
        

        }

        Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line. **SPEW**[^]

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        Lost User
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        Invest in a code reformatting tool & rest easy. Of course, if there's multiple devs involved, then you also need to invest the time in applying a standard formatting prior to check in (to avoid the 'every line has been changed' problems of source code comparison.

        MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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        • J JMK89

          ...I don't see a problem here! Does that make me a bad person?

          Well fads they come and fads they go. And God I love that rock and roll! Well the point was fast but it was too blunt to miss. Life handed us a paycheck, we said, "We worked harder than this!"

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          Dan Neely
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          That's an implicit endorsement of a brace style I dislike, so yes it does. :doh:

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          • D Dan Neely

            That's an implicit endorsement of a brace style I dislike, so yes it does. :doh:

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            JMK89
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            Well which one don't you like?

            Well fads they come and fads they go. And God I love that rock and roll! Well the point was fast but it was too blunt to miss. Life handed us a paycheck, we said, "We worked harder than this!"

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            • J JMK89

              Well which one don't you like?

              Well fads they come and fads they go. And God I love that rock and roll! Well the point was fast but it was too blunt to miss. Life handed us a paycheck, we said, "We worked harder than this!"

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              Richard Andrew x64
              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              The wrong one, of course.

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              • D Dan Neely

                ... is code that is written using a mix of brace styles. For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform; and most of the sample app code they've provided looks like this:

                PhotoBomberApp::PhotoBomberApp()
                {
                // Create a QMLDocument and load it, using build patterns
                QmlDocument *qml = QmlDocument::create("asset:///main.qml");

                qml->setContextProperty("\_photoBomber", this);
                
                if (!qml->hasErrors()) {
                    // The application Page is created from QML.
                    Page \*appPage = qml->createRootObject<Page>();
                
                    if (appPage) {
                
                        // Set the application scene.
                        Application::instance()->setScene(appPage);
                    }
                }
                

                }

                Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line. **SPEW**[^]

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                ctrl+e+d reformats according to your VS settings.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  ctrl+e+d reformats according to your VS settings.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Dan Neely
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                  1. Unfortunately VS doesn't support targeting CackBerry 1) I have to use a rimmed version of Eclipse FILE_NOT_FOUND: No posting constructive replies to an obvious venting session

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    The wrong one, of course.

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Exactly.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      ... is code that is written using a mix of brace styles. For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform; and most of the sample app code they've provided looks like this:

                      PhotoBomberApp::PhotoBomberApp()
                      {
                      // Create a QMLDocument and load it, using build patterns
                      QmlDocument *qml = QmlDocument::create("asset:///main.qml");

                      qml->setContextProperty("\_photoBomber", this);
                      
                      if (!qml->hasErrors()) {
                          // The application Page is created from QML.
                          Page \*appPage = qml->createRootObject<Page>();
                      
                          if (appPage) {
                      
                              // Set the application scene.
                              Application::instance()->setScene(appPage);
                          }
                      }
                      

                      }

                      Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line. **SPEW**[^]

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      Dan Neely wrote:

                      Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line.

                      The real question is does the code function properly? :rolleyes:

                      The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                      • D Dan Neely
                        1. Unfortunately VS doesn't support targeting CackBerry 1) I have to use a rimmed version of Eclipse FILE_NOT_FOUND: No posting constructive replies to an obvious venting session

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Dan Neely wrote:

                        FILE_NOT_FOUND: No posting constructive replies to an obvious venting session

                        Yeah, sorry, nasty habit pissing on a good rant :-O

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • J JimmyRopes

                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line.

                          The real question is does the code function properly? :rolleyes:

                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          Dan Neely
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                          #21

                          JimmyRopes wrote:

                          The real question is does the code function properly? :rolleyes:

                          Which part of...

                          Quote:

                          For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform

                          ... id you not understand?

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          • E Espen Harlinn

                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Reformat the whole lot to Whitesmiths style!

                            I came to C/C++ from turbo pascal - so naturally I did C/C++ in the Whitesmiths style ... I still guess that the primary reason for

                            void foo() {
                            }

                            was the 12" monitors of yesteryears ... On the other hand, I guess the best reason for having a coding style-guide is to avoid wasting time discussing coding styles.

                            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                            MRJIT
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                            Whitesmith's rules! I never seize to amaze over the triviality of this eternal style format discussion. Who is to say one style is better or worse than another? Is it not more important that the code is A. readable, B. intuitive, C. Bug Free! What I truly detest in coding style is all the code written as if programmers were paid by each line of code (ancient format of reimbursement) and everyone simply tries to fill a load of dead line space whilst appearing smart. This entire theme of discussion is in my years of writing code simply for small talk on coffee breaks and not really adding functionality in my personal opinion.

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                            • D Dan Neely

                              ... is code that is written using a mix of brace styles. For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform; and most of the sample app code they've provided looks like this:

                              PhotoBomberApp::PhotoBomberApp()
                              {
                              // Create a QMLDocument and load it, using build patterns
                              QmlDocument *qml = QmlDocument::create("asset:///main.qml");

                              qml->setContextProperty("\_photoBomber", this);
                              
                              if (!qml->hasErrors()) {
                                  // The application Page is created from QML.
                                  Page \*appPage = qml->createRootObject<Page>();
                              
                                  if (appPage) {
                              
                                      // Set the application scene.
                                      Application::instance()->setScene(appPage);
                                  }
                              }
                              

                              }

                              Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line. **SPEW**[^]

                              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                              Rage
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                              This is our standard "Spot the Asperger" test in interviews.

                              ~RaGE();

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                              • J JMK89

                                ...I don't see a problem here! Does that make me a bad person?

                                Well fads they come and fads they go. And God I love that rock and roll! Well the point was fast but it was too blunt to miss. Life handed us a paycheck, we said, "We worked harder than this!"

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                                Joan M
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                                You were already bad, don't try to fool us...

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  JimmyRopes wrote:

                                  The real question is does the code function properly? :rolleyes:

                                  Which part of...

                                  Quote:

                                  For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform

                                  ... id you not understand?

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  JimmyRopes
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                                  #25

                                  Dan Neely wrote:

                                  Which part of...For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform...id you not understand?

                                  I id understand you were porting it to a BB10 platform which makes it important that the code functions properly or you will be porting code that does not meet the functionality of the application. Which part of...

                                  JimmyRopes wrote:

                                  The real question is does the code function properly? :rolleyes:

                                  ... id you not understand? :doh:

                                  The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                                  Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                  • D Dan Neely

                                    ... is code that is written using a mix of brace styles. For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform; and most of the sample app code they've provided looks like this:

                                    PhotoBomberApp::PhotoBomberApp()
                                    {
                                    // Create a QMLDocument and load it, using build patterns
                                    QmlDocument *qml = QmlDocument::create("asset:///main.qml");

                                    qml->setContextProperty("\_photoBomber", this);
                                    
                                    if (!qml->hasErrors()) {
                                        // The application Page is created from QML.
                                        Page \*appPage = qml->createRootObject<Page>();
                                    
                                        if (appPage) {
                                    
                                            // Set the application scene.
                                            Application::instance()->setScene(appPage);
                                        }
                                    }
                                    

                                    }

                                    Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line. **SPEW**[^]

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    jaybus56
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                                    To me there often is much more to get upset on than brace styles. I can deal with every style (as long as it is the same style in the whole module of course). Meaningless variable names or code with a lot of untreated warnings from the compiler (deserts of trivial to solve warnings hiding the really important one) - that drives me nuts! Brace styles? No, not really...

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                                      Whitesmith's rules! I never seize to amaze over the triviality of this eternal style format discussion. Who is to say one style is better or worse than another? Is it not more important that the code is A. readable, B. intuitive, C. Bug Free! What I truly detest in coding style is all the code written as if programmers were paid by each line of code (ancient format of reimbursement) and everyone simply tries to fill a load of dead line space whilst appearing smart. This entire theme of discussion is in my years of writing code simply for small talk on coffee breaks and not really adding functionality in my personal opinion.

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                                      James Curran
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                                      MRJIT wrote:

                                      What I truly detest in coding style is all the code written as if programmers were paid by each line of code (ancient format of reimbursement) and everyone simply tries to fill a load of dead line space whilst appearing smart.

                                      Oddly, what I truly detest in coding style is the code packed so tightly as to be completely inscrutable to any other programmer --- to appear smart.

                                      Truth, James

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                                      • D Dan Neely

                                        ... is code that is written using a mix of brace styles. For my sins I'm investigating the possibility of porting one of my employer's apps to the BB10 platform; and most of the sample app code they've provided looks like this:

                                        PhotoBomberApp::PhotoBomberApp()
                                        {
                                        // Create a QMLDocument and load it, using build patterns
                                        QmlDocument *qml = QmlDocument::create("asset:///main.qml");

                                        qml->setContextProperty("\_photoBomber", this);
                                        
                                        if (!qml->hasErrors()) {
                                            // The application Page is created from QML.
                                            Page \*appPage = qml->createRootObject<Page>();
                                        
                                            if (appPage) {
                                        
                                                // Set the application scene.
                                                Application::instance()->setScene(appPage);
                                            }
                                        }
                                        

                                        }

                                        Some opening braces on their own line; others on the preceding line. **SPEW**[^]

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                        Dominic Amann
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                                        This is K&R - other than the if (appPage) not needing braces at all. Nothing wrong here. Move along.

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                                        • M MRJIT

                                          Whitesmith's rules! I never seize to amaze over the triviality of this eternal style format discussion. Who is to say one style is better or worse than another? Is it not more important that the code is A. readable, B. intuitive, C. Bug Free! What I truly detest in coding style is all the code written as if programmers were paid by each line of code (ancient format of reimbursement) and everyone simply tries to fill a load of dead line space whilst appearing smart. This entire theme of discussion is in my years of writing code simply for small talk on coffee breaks and not really adding functionality in my personal opinion.

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                                          StatementTerminator
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                                          MRJIT wrote:

                                          Is it not more important that the code is A. readable...

                                          Yes readability does matter, and that's exactly why brace style matters.

                                          MRJIT wrote:

                                          What I truly detest in coding style is all the code written as if programmers were paid by each line of code (ancient format of reimbursement) and everyone simply tries to fill a load of dead line space whilst appearing smart.

                                          I have never understood the desire to save vertical space. Can anyone tell me why, in this day and age, vertical space is so important that it's worth sacrificing readability for? The best brace style is the most readable one, and also the one that is least likely to get mangled during refactoring. Allman, of course.

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