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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Indeed, but that won't feed a family of four! You are going to have to increase the number of Cod / Haddock / Pollock fillets you purchase, and that requires pluralisation of the entire order... ;)

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    requires pluralisation of the entire order

    And that requires the pluralization of you incomes!!!

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      I didn't think you could count such things as Gin and Tonic so I wouldn't have thought there was a plural form for it. The best you could say is "Two glasses of/servings of gin and tonic". As for Fish and Chips, since plural of fish is still fish (although you can say "fishes"), plural of Fish and Chips would still be Fish and Chips. :)

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      Fish and chips I agree. Why shouldn't you count g&t's?

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        AlcoholicBeverage GnT = Gin + Tonic;
        AlcoholicBeverage ForTwo = GnT * 2;
        Console.WriteLine("Gin{0} & Tonic{1}", ForTwo.GinCount() <= 1 ? "" : "s", ForTwo.TonicCount() <= 1 ? "" : "s");

        Clearly writes "Gins & Tonics". But...the correct phrase would be Gin and Tonics[^] And the plural "fish and chips" is clearly "fish and chips twice" :laugh:

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        Well the argument is that gin and tonic is a noun - just add an s for many. So what is the argument for "governors general"?

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          I'm curious about the plural form of "gin and tonic". Is it gins and tonic, gin and tonics or gins and tonics? I lean to gins and tonic but that does not seem to agree with the accepted wisdom. When we sort that out how about "fish and chips".

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          Dalek Dave
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          Gins and Tonic is correct. Like Courts Marshall or Professors Emeritus.

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            Fish and chips I agree. Why shouldn't you count g&t's?

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            Jarek Kruza
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            pwasser wrote:

            Why shouldn't you count g&t's?

            Beasuse it is uncountable? As milk for example. You buy milk. Or two milks? Or maybe two bottles of milk? It's the same with G&T - how much is one G&T and how much two? 100ml may be the standard "one", but some of CPians would probably say it's much less than standard. :) You must count it in term of volume (in ml or glasses/bottles/buckets). So IMHO you drink two glasses of G&T not two gin and tonics...

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              I'm curious about the plural form of "gin and tonic". Is it gins and tonic, gin and tonics or gins and tonics? I lean to gins and tonic but that does not seem to agree with the accepted wisdom. When we sort that out how about "fish and chips".

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              An unequalled authority, with strange Hungarian name, stated 'Gin and Tonic' is invariant, or better, the singular form is unused.

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                pwasser wrote:

                Why shouldn't you count g&t's?

                Beasuse it is uncountable? As milk for example. You buy milk. Or two milks? Or maybe two bottles of milk? It's the same with G&T - how much is one G&T and how much two? 100ml may be the standard "one", but some of CPians would probably say it's much less than standard. :) You must count it in term of volume (in ml or glasses/bottles/buckets). So IMHO you drink two glasses of G&T not two gin and tonics...

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                Well in a pub the gin will always be a standard measure. So you can ask: "Two gins and tonic, make one a double please".

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                • L Lost User

                  Well in a pub the gin will always be a standard measure. So you can ask: "Two gins and tonic, make one a double please".

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                  Jarek Kruza
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                  That's correct. But be careful, following this path may end in ordering two whiskys and getting the well known brand cat food instead. :)

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                  • L Lost User

                    Well the argument is that gin and tonic is a noun - just add an s for many. So what is the argument for "governors general"?

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    In that example, general is a post positional adjective.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Gins and Tonic is correct. Like Courts Marshall or Professors Emeritus.

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      Wrong. It is gin and tonics. The two examples you give are both post positive adjectives[^]

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                        An unequalled authority, with strange Hungarian name, stated 'Gin and Tonic' is invariant, or better, the singular form is unused.

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                        I didn't think he even knew what "tonic" was? :confused:

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          Wrong. It is gin and tonics. The two examples you give are both post positive adjectives[^]

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                          I agree but for example "whisky and sodas" just sounds wrong.

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                            I'm curious about the plural form of "gin and tonic". Is it gins and tonic, gin and tonics or gins and tonics? I lean to gins and tonic but that does not seem to agree with the accepted wisdom. When we sort that out how about "fish and chips".

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                            pwasser wrote:

                            how about "fish and chips".

                            A normal portion is a single piece of fish with a bag of chips (what foreigners call fries or frites) added.

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                              I'm curious about the plural form of "gin and tonic". Is it gins and tonic, gin and tonics or gins and tonics? I lean to gins and tonic but that does not seem to agree with the accepted wisdom. When we sort that out how about "fish and chips".

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                              Rob Grainger
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                              Over here (UK), the norm is Gin & Tonics. Frequently shortened to "two G&Ts". I've never, ever, heard anyone ask for 2 Gins and Tonics (they'd probably get 2 gins and 2 tonics separately if they did). I guess its hard to parenthesise in speech "2 (gin and tonic)s".

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                                I agree but for example "whisky and sodas" just sounds wrong.

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                                Rob Grainger
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                                Sounds exactly correct to me.

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                                  I'm curious about the plural form of "gin and tonic". Is it gins and tonic, gin and tonics or gins and tonics? I lean to gins and tonic but that does not seem to agree with the accepted wisdom. When we sort that out how about "fish and chips".

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  There's a simple solution if you mix a second gin and tonic you now have 2 milli-Nagy's.

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                                    I'm curious about the plural form of "gin and tonic". Is it gins and tonic, gin and tonics or gins and tonics? I lean to gins and tonic but that does not seem to agree with the accepted wisdom. When we sort that out how about "fish and chips".

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                                    Gregory Gadow
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                                    This is a situation where you have two nouns that, together, describe a single thing. So the plural goes on the second noun: gin and tonics. There are situations where you will have a noun followed by an adjective or other attributive, such as "power of attorney" and "notary public." In these cases, you pluralize the one noun in the phrase: powers of attorney and notaries public.

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