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Snowden: Used a Can-Opener, not a Laser-Beam

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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    Hi Mike, Do you use the Atmel AVR chips? If so, what programmer do you use? :)

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    Mike Hankey
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    Richard, Until recently I used AVR chips exclusively and if you know how to solder you can get the USBTiny[^] kit from Adafruit. I got one a few years ago and it has been my programmer when all else failed. I had an AVR Dragon that I really liked and it was very versatile but every time they upgrade their IDE you have to upgrade the tools and this one refused to upgrade, so it's bricked.

    My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Richard, Until recently I used AVR chips exclusively and if you know how to solder you can get the USBTiny[^] kit from Adafruit. I got one a few years ago and it has been my programmer when all else failed. I had an AVR Dragon that I really liked and it was very versatile but every time they upgrade their IDE you have to upgrade the tools and this one refused to upgrade, so it's bricked.

      My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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      Thanks! The Dragon looks really cool. Years ago I had used the DIY parallel port programmer, but no computer has a parallel port anymore!

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • B BillWoodruff

        [^] Little Lord Snowden Sat down in NSA's garden, Downloading files night and day; With just a little Crawler To power his data trawler, He hauled all the secrets away

        “But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll

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        I particularly like their response :- "If he'd done this anywhere else he would have probably been caught." Two thoughts: 1. A chain is as strong as its weakest link - particularly in security systems. 2. If it was that easy, imagine what industrial-strength espionage is pulling out of those systems.

        "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          Thanks! The Dragon looks really cool. Years ago I had used the DIY parallel port programmer, but no computer has a parallel port anymore!

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          The thing about the dragon is that it's a cheap In_Circuit Debugger it can also be used to unbrick chips and more. For only $50 it's a good tool to have.

          My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            Quote:

            Among the materials prominent in the Snowden files are the agency’s shared “wikis,” databases to which intelligence analysts, operatives and others contributed their knowledge

            No emails, cell phone records?? They want their privacy?...so do we!

            My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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            With respect to An autonomous roving vehicle - Part 1 of n[^], it's Robot B-9. The robot on Lost In Space was called Robot B-9, or just Robot. Robbie the robot was from Forbidden Planet and never uttered the phrase "Danger Will Robinson". I know it probably sounds like a small thing to you, but details are important. You kids today...

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            • P PNutHed

              With respect to An autonomous roving vehicle - Part 1 of n[^], it's Robot B-9. The robot on Lost In Space was called Robot B-9, or just Robot. Robbie the robot was from Forbidden Planet and never uttered the phrase "Danger Will Robinson". I know it probably sounds like a small thing to you, but details are important. You kids today...

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              Mike Hankey
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              Yeah that's been pointed out to me on a couple of occasions. The problem is that I'm so old that all the facts blend together into an indecipherable mess in my head. :)

              My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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              • L Lost User

                There once was a guy from Thailand, Whose poetry got out of hand, The rhyming was fine, Every time! But unfortunately very few of his poems scanned

                MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                LOL, I don't know how many chuckles you got with that one, but I laughed hard!

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                  LOL, I don't know how many chuckles you got with that one, but I laughed hard!

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                  StatementTerminator wrote:

                  I don't know how many chuckles you got with that one

                  Well, only one up-vote, so very few, I'm guessing :)

                  StatementTerminator wrote:

                  I laughed hard!

                  :laugh:

                  MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    The thing about the dragon is that it's a cheap In_Circuit Debugger it can also be used to unbrick chips and more. For only $50 it's a good tool to have.

                    My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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                    LWessels
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                    You might find this USB AVR programmer/debugger interesting. https://sites.google.com/site/megau2s/[^]

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                    • L LWessels

                      You might find this USB AVR programmer/debugger interesting. https://sites.google.com/site/megau2s/[^]

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                      I'll check it out thanks for the link!

                      My site: Everything Embedded Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!

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