Amanda Knox, guilty or not?
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Its a mess isn't it. The DNA evidence was a load of crap, they had lived together, cooked together, partied together, of course their DNA was all over the place, at each others houses, in each others kitchens and bathrooms. But the way Knox tried to fit up her boss, a black bar owner, just shouts guilt to me.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
But the way Knox tried to fit up her boss, a black bar owner, just shouts guilt to me.
Did she though? Actually try to fit him up or did she just say it might have been him or it could have been him. I try to imagine what I would have been like if I was 18, in a foreign Country, accused of a Murder I didn't commit. I would tell those Men shouting at me anything they wanted to hear in order to get out of there. Also you seem to be making a point of the two people she 'fitted' up were black. Is there any relevance to this or is that part of Italy so racist that it would have added credence to what she was saying? I know you watched it on tv but do you have any written links? I'm not convinced an 18 year-old girl in a foreign Country would be savvy enough to kill someone and then convince a foreign judicial system that it was someone else.
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
But the way Knox tried to fit up her boss, a black bar owner, just shouts guilt to me.
Did she though? Actually try to fit him up or did she just say it might have been him or it could have been him. I try to imagine what I would have been like if I was 18, in a foreign Country, accused of a Murder I didn't commit. I would tell those Men shouting at me anything they wanted to hear in order to get out of there. Also you seem to be making a point of the two people she 'fitted' up were black. Is there any relevance to this or is that part of Italy so racist that it would have added credence to what she was saying? I know you watched it on tv but do you have any written links? I'm not convinced an 18 year-old girl in a foreign Country would be savvy enough to kill someone and then convince a foreign judicial system that it was someone else.
Blue Waffle wrote:
Did she though?
Yes. If you saw what she had done, you would know she had. She used a text message from him, to her, saying 'see you later' as proof to the police that in meaning the victims house, he meant to kill the girl. But she admitted herself actually being at the house when the murder was carried out, and she has never said who did it! That's is as suspect as fuck, if you ask me.
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Blue Waffle wrote:
Did she though?
Yes. If you saw what she had done, you would know she had. She used a text message from him, to her, saying 'see you later' as proof to the police that in meaning the victims house, he meant to kill the girl. But she admitted herself actually being at the house when the murder was carried out, and she has never said who did it! That's is as suspect as fuck, if you ask me.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
But she admitted herself actually being at the house when the murder was carried out, and she has never said who did it!
She said she was in the house covering her ears while the barman murdered her. She has since said this was false statement made under pressure from the Police. The false part pertaining to not just the Barman part but to her being in the house too.
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I don't know but after "In an interview that aired on Italian television, Sollecito said........" I am failing to see how she can ever get a fair trial. Besides how many times do you trial somebody till you get the result you want? OT - Has anybody tried to copy a line of text from that article and then paste it somewhere? That's annoying.
so what you are saying is that they should have tried her a second time, so she is guilty as that was the result of the first trial, the second she was not guilty and the third guilty I don't see what the problem is all it means is she cant travel to Italy! the US will never extradite her, its not like that they have treaties about these kinds of things oops sorry, what I meant is that a USian cannot actually be guilty and must be the corrupt Italian court, the US would never try and extradite someone on flimsy evidence or dubious court decisions damn did it again
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566670/Raffaele-Sollecito-says-DOES-questions-Amanda-Knoxs-behavior-murder-denies-hes-distancing-her.html[^] aw a program about it all the other night, First, she tried to blame her boss, a bar owner. saying he met her at the house, and while she was in the crapper, he carried out the murder. Then she admits she lied, and some other black guy got the blame, and he might have been there, might not, but he is in jail for the murder. Meanwhile Solectito has now said Knox came back to his house the day of thhe murder all fucked up looking and took a long shower. But that photo of her, the fuzzy one, taken at the funeral, she looks as guilty as hell.
I'd say the only thing that can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt from the ongoing cluster elephant is that there is no justice in the Italian legal system. But even for proving that the entire thing is a total waste, the never ending Berlusconi farce has done so quite thoroughly years ago.
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
But she admitted herself actually being at the house when the murder was carried out, and she has never said who did it!
She said she was in the house covering her ears while the barman murdered her. She has since said this was false statement made under pressure from the Police. The false part pertaining to not just the Barman part but to her being in the house too.
I thought that she maintained she was in the house when the other guy, the black guy now in prison for it, was supposed to have carried out the crime?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566670/Raffaele-Sollecito-says-DOES-questions-Amanda-Knoxs-behavior-murder-denies-hes-distancing-her.html[^] aw a program about it all the other night, First, she tried to blame her boss, a bar owner. saying he met her at the house, and while she was in the crapper, he carried out the murder. Then she admits she lied, and some other black guy got the blame, and he might have been there, might not, but he is in jail for the murder. Meanwhile Solectito has now said Knox came back to his house the day of thhe murder all fucked up looking and took a long shower. But that photo of her, the fuzzy one, taken at the funeral, she looks as guilty as hell.
I've seen more contrition in the tears crocodiles weep when confronted with a bad day at the office story.
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YOu should have seen the TV program about here the other day, then you WOULD have something. :)
Right, only biased reporting discussing some small portion of the facts.
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Right, only biased reporting discussing some small portion of the facts.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einsteindidn't realise it was a US production, wasn't the discovery channel was it?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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didn't realise it was a US production, wasn't the discovery channel was it?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
:rolleyes: Right, I forgot, all euro productions are the absolute truth and complete objective! My bad.
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You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566670/Raffaele-Sollecito-says-DOES-questions-Amanda-Knoxs-behavior-murder-denies-hes-distancing-her.html[^] aw a program about it all the other night, First, she tried to blame her boss, a bar owner. saying he met her at the house, and while she was in the crapper, he carried out the murder. Then she admits she lied, and some other black guy got the blame, and he might have been there, might not, but he is in jail for the murder. Meanwhile Solectito has now said Knox came back to his house the day of thhe murder all fucked up looking and took a long shower. But that photo of her, the fuzzy one, taken at the funeral, she looks as guilty as hell.
Seeing what I've seen from people on both sides and the "justice" system has taught me something. I no longer make judgments like this based on the information we're spoon fed. I might have a feeling one way or another, but I don't let it get beyond that. I purposely didn't follow this case. I wish everyone would stop following these cases. The media would leave them alone if we all did.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566670/Raffaele-Sollecito-says-DOES-questions-Amanda-Knoxs-behavior-murder-denies-hes-distancing-her.html[^] aw a program about it all the other night, First, she tried to blame her boss, a bar owner. saying he met her at the house, and while she was in the crapper, he carried out the murder. Then she admits she lied, and some other black guy got the blame, and he might have been there, might not, but he is in jail for the murder. Meanwhile Solectito has now said Knox came back to his house the day of thhe murder all fucked up looking and took a long shower. But that photo of her, the fuzzy one, taken at the funeral, she looks as guilty as hell.
Get Judge Judy on the case. She'll soon sort out who's full of it and telling stories. :)
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Right, only biased reporting discussing some small portion of the facts.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinOf course it could be biased, but why did she try to fit up her boss? An innocent girl, a young, naieve 24 year old would just weep at the death of her friend and just say where she was, in a bar, with a friend, on the beach, asleep at home, whatever. She wouldn't say she was there in the toilet listening to her being knifed by her boss, who later turned out to have an alibi. That is fucking odd behaviour. The behaviour of someone trying to cover something up.
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I've seen more contrition in the tears crocodiles weep when confronted with a bad day at the office story.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
Why did she try to fit up her boss? An innocent girl, a young, naieve 24 year old would just weep at the death of her friend and just say where she was; in a bar, with a friend, on the beach, asleep at home, whatever. She wouldn't say she was there in the toilet listening to her being knifed by her boss, who later turned out to have an alibi. That is f***ing odd behaviour. The behaviour of someone trying to cover something up.
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Of course it could be biased, but why did she try to fit up her boss? An innocent girl, a young, naieve 24 year old would just weep at the death of her friend and just say where she was, in a bar, with a friend, on the beach, asleep at home, whatever. She wouldn't say she was there in the toilet listening to her being knifed by her boss, who later turned out to have an alibi. That is fucking odd behaviour. The behaviour of someone trying to cover something up.
Or the behavior of an innocent person trying to keep herself from being charged. The police are often eager to pin a crime on the nearest hapless individual. BTW, she did most of the things you listed an innocent person would do.
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You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein