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  • C Chris Maunder

    I actually debated long and hard with myself about that and the exact number seemed...overly precise given its size. I guess, though, when has "overly precise" ever been a bad thing in computer science? OK, I'll add it back.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Mitchell J
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    :thumbsup:

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Actually there are degrees of precision. Sure, in accounting 2 decimal places is enough, but I would wager others would consider that insufficient.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      Dalek Dave
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      In physics an order of magnitude is close enough, alas that is not the case in accountancy. Penny perfect or it is wrong! If a balance sheet doesn't balance then there is a late night pending :( Been there far too often.

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      • D Dalek Dave

        In physics an order of magnitude is close enough, alas that is not the case in accountancy. Penny perfect or it is wrong! If a balance sheet doesn't balance then there is a late night pending :( Been there far too often.

        --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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        Brisingr Aerowing
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        I am taking an accounting class and had that happen. I quickly found an off-by-one error I had made (893.83 instead of 893.84). :-O Accounting is interesting, although I don't know why Ivy Tech requires it for a computer programming degree. (They won't this fall, though, as the entire info tech department is being put into their own building and a complete restructuring of the classes needed is being finalized, and they removed Accounting from the requirements (it still will be available as an elective, though)).

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Pedant Alert... How can you be overly precise. One is either precise or imprecise. There is no try.

          --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          No, Accuracy Is Boolean, And If Inaccurate, Then Precision Comes Into Play.

          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            In physics an order of magnitude is close enough, alas that is not the case in accountancy. Penny perfect or it is wrong! If a balance sheet doesn't balance then there is a late night pending :( Been there far too often.

            --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Tell That To Turbo Tax, One Year They Said I HAd An Extra Dollar unaccounted For because They Wouldn't AlLow Me To Input Pennies.

            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              No, Accuracy Is Boolean, And If Inaccurate, Then Precision Comes Into Play.

              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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              H Brydon
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              ...and if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.

              Never moon a werewolf. - Harvey

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I actually debated long and hard with myself about that and the exact number seemed...overly precise given its size. I guess, though, when has "overly precise" ever been a bad thing in computer science? OK, I'll add it back.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                JimmyRopes
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                when has "overly precise" ever been a bad thing in computer science?

                When it doesn't add value.

                The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Pedant Alert... How can you be overly precise. One is either precise or imprecise. There is no try.

                  --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                  JimmyRopes
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Pedant Alert...
                   
                  How can you be overly precise.

                  When the cost of implementing precision is high and there is no value added. <example> The cost of gathering data to support a 95% estimate is X. The cost of gathering data to support a 98% estimate is 6X. Depending on the problem 95% accuracy may be all you need. Please don't come up with some extreem scenario to justify 98% accuracy. In those cases you spent the extra money to be that precise, but only when it is needed. </example>

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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    when has "overly precise" ever been a bad thing in computer science?

                    When it doesn't add value.

                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                    Madhava Verma Dantuluri
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                    it does.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Pedant Alert... How can you be overly precise. One is either precise or imprecise. There is no try.

                      --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                      Two blokes, a mathematician and an engineer agreed to take part in an experiment. They were both placed in a room and at the other end was a beautiful naked woman on a bed. The researcher said that every 30 seconds they would be allowed to travel half the distance between themselves and the woman. The mathematician started to storm out of the room shouting "This is pointless". The engineer agreed to go ahead with the experiment anyway. Upon hearing this and just before going out through the door the mathematician turns and says, "Don't you get it? You'll never actually reach her!" To which the engineer replies, "So what? Pretty soon I'll be close enough for all practical purposes."

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                      • M Madhava Verma Dantuluri

                        it does.

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                        JimmyRopes
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                        How does 10,473,763 add value over 10.47 M? Only an accountant would care. :-D

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                        • M Madhava Verma Dantuluri

                          it does.

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                          JimmyRopes
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                          Not to me or anyone else who doesn't need to boost their reputation points by answering with a trival statement with absolutely no reasoning behind it. :rolleyes:

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                          • B Brisingr Aerowing

                            I am taking an accounting class and had that happen. I quickly found an off-by-one error I had made (893.83 instead of 893.84). :-O Accounting is interesting, although I don't know why Ivy Tech requires it for a computer programming degree. (They won't this fall, though, as the entire info tech department is being put into their own building and a complete restructuring of the classes needed is being finalized, and they removed Accounting from the requirements (it still will be available as an elective, though)).

                            What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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                            JimmyRopes
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                            Brisingr Aerowing wrote:

                            I am taking an accounting class

                            Sorry for your luck. :~

                            The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                              ...and if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.

                              Never moon a werewolf. - Harvey

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                              Forogar
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                              Yes, but based on whether your bits are arranged big-endian or little-endian that bit could be very significant!

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                I actually debated long and hard with myself about that and the exact number seemed...overly precise given its size. I guess, though, when has "overly precise" ever been a bad thing in computer science? OK, I'll add it back.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                I actually debated long and hard with myself

                                Talking out loud again? Did you at least put a mirror in front of you to make it seem like that there's someone else there?

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