Books or movies?
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Just completed reading the novel "Killing floor" from Lee child. Now I see books are more interesting than the actual movies with stunts, visual effects, etc when it comes to ACTION THRILLERS. For instance, there is a whole luxury of imagination of your own when it comes to a fight, chasing, the land mass, etc unlike the movies where you have to live with what is shown whether you like it or not. As this is only my first book on this genre I am not sure if everyone feels the same way as I do.
I prefer books to movies, especially when I've read the book before. I find the movie usually disappointing, there are exceptions to that rule, but these are few. But I have to admit, sometimes you just want to put your mind in buzz-mode and be entertained. That's when movies come in handy, don't think just watch. Oh, and you've picked a great book, I read that 6 months ago. And kept on reading the "Jack Reacher"-series. There were one or two I didn't like that much but I'm currently reading "Bad Luck and Trouble", book 11. So have fun and happy reading.
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Harry Potter, LOTR -> beautiful movies !
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
They were. But...they cut out a heck of a lot to get it in there! Even the first HP book lost a lot of detail to make the movie. The later ones were eviscerated!
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I wonder where you store your books :omg:
Electronically, and at the Public Library! (There are probably less than 2000 books in this house: I threw out 5000 or so when we moved - couldn't even give 'em away :sigh: )
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I don't think so: to my mind, you are comparing apples and oranges. Try equating "Movie" with "short story" rather than "novel" and they work well. But they have to throw so much background in that can be covered in a couple of pages in a novel that they run out of space for the story... :sigh:
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Electronically, and at the Public Library! (There are probably less than 2000 books in this house: I threw out 5000 or so when we moved - couldn't even give 'em away :sigh: )
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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They were. But...they cut out a heck of a lot to get it in there! Even the first HP book lost a lot of detail to make the movie. The later ones were eviscerated!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
Did you ever watch the movie first? You might feel the movie is too long until you read the book first only to see the movie as the trailer of the book. Don't you see it as just a mind set?
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They were. But...they cut out a heck of a lot to get it in there! Even the first HP book lost a lot of detail to make the movie. The later ones were eviscerated!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
Yes, but the purpose is not the same ! If you assume that the movie has to render everything from within the book, then every movie would last 20h ! I see them as two different representations of the same story, and both are enjoyable to me.
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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The Lee Childs books are not a good reference point for movies precisely because the protagonist is a 250 lb 6 foot 5 hero in the books, and Tom Cruise in the film.
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Electronically, and at the Public Library! (There are probably less than 2000 books in this house: I threw out 5000 or so when we moved - couldn't even give 'em away :sigh: )
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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6 months? 5 books? :omg: I read that many in a week... :-O
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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mark merrens wrote:
I've read all of the Reacher novels other than the last 2 or 3 as they are not as good.
How do you know if you haven't read them? (I only ask as I am in the process of going through them now).
Good point. I started to read a couple of them and think that they should not have been written: he had already taken the character as far as he should have. The last one I read felt like it was really stretching to tell the story. That's just my feeling: I may well be wrong. I really liked the earlier novels: Reacher is a very likable character.
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"Book of the movie" or "movie of the book" are not certainly different in my opinion. Two versions/views of the same thing.
I disagree. You can take an excellent movie (or even a good one) and produce a "book of the movie" - they nearly always stink! Normally because there isn't enough in the movie to make a novel, but they aren't allowed to invent material by the studio, so you do a "Dan Brown" and pad, pad, pad! There are exceptions: but you need a good director who will work with a good author to produce a good book, and that's rare (the only example I can think of is James Cameron and Orson Scott Card on The Abyss) "Movie of the book" goes the other way and throws out too much because the film would be a week long if they didn't! (A recent example is Enders Game: excellent book, hacked to death to fit in a film, and ends up poorer as a result)
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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The British Heart Foundation would have taken them, provided they were in halfway decent nick.
Tried the Red Cross, local hospitals, charity shops, even book shops. Nobody interested regardless of condition. Enough to make you cry...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Just completed reading the novel "Killing floor" from Lee child. Now I see books are more interesting than the actual movies with stunts, visual effects, etc when it comes to ACTION THRILLERS. For instance, there is a whole luxury of imagination of your own when it comes to a fight, chasing, the land mass, etc unlike the movies where you have to live with what is shown whether you like it or not. As this is only my first book on this genre I am not sure if everyone feels the same way as I do.
No matter what the genre, 95% of the time the book is a far better choice. I was tempted to say 100%, but then remembered a few books that were written after the movie, and those are uniformly disappointing. Not only do movies always omit details in order to meet a run time goal, they skip such critical steps as background development and character depth. Sometimes - all of the Jack Ryan movies except "... Red October" for instance - appear to have been made by people who have never read the book, nor had it read to them. These movies aren't even the same story as the book of the same title.
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I am not a fan of electronic books. The main reason why I like reading is the book itself (in paper fold). watching electronic screen at work, and also at relaxation? I am sorry :(
I wasn't...but then I got a tablet. And I can carry 400 odd books with me at all times, on something that fits in my jacket pocket. And doesn't try to take over the house in the way that print does! :laugh:
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Do you work or sleep sometimes ? I am really getting concerned...
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
The average novel takes a couple of hours to read, nothing much. I can do that while Herself watches drivel on TV in the evening without upsetting her... :laugh:
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I wasn't...but then I got a tablet. And I can carry 400 odd books with me at all times, on something that fits in my jacket pocket. And doesn't try to take over the house in the way that print does! :laugh:
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
So now the topic is paper book or electronic ones? :confused:
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Good point. I started to read a couple of them and think that they should not have been written: he had already taken the character as far as he should have. The last one I read felt like it was really stretching to tell the story. That's just my feeling: I may well be wrong. I really liked the earlier novels: Reacher is a very likable character.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
mark merrens wrote:
I really liked the earlier novels: Reacher is a very likable character.
I agree, though I'm starting to find the love interest in nearly every story a bit repetitive and obvious. Although at least Child doesn't go into to much detail about the love-making which I can find a bit cringe-worthy in other peoples books.
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Yes, but the purpose is not the same ! If you assume that the movie has to render everything from within the book, then every movie would last 20h ! I see them as two different representations of the same story, and both are enjoyable to me.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
That is why I use to wonder why dont they do tv series on good novels........there is high a chance we get the similar output. (Atleast I am not aware of any at this point of time).
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Just completed reading the novel "Killing floor" from Lee child. Now I see books are more interesting than the actual movies with stunts, visual effects, etc when it comes to ACTION THRILLERS. For instance, there is a whole luxury of imagination of your own when it comes to a fight, chasing, the land mass, etc unlike the movies where you have to live with what is shown whether you like it or not. As this is only my first book on this genre I am not sure if everyone feels the same way as I do.
In my experience when the movie based on a book the book always better, and that - IMHO - because of the lack of details you can have in a book. However it does not mean no for movies - there are very good movies based on good stories that you never get in books...
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