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Nice example of how science can get it completely wrong and mislead govt policy for decades.

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    Erudite_Eric
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    Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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      Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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      Simon_Whale
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      Erudite_Eric wrote:

      hear disease

      Whats hear disease is that when I can't hear things?

      Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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        Erudite_Eric wrote:

        hear disease

        Whats hear disease is that when I can't hear things?

        Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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        Erudite_Eric
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        corrected....

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          Erudite_Eric wrote:

          hear disease

          Whats hear disease is that when I can't hear things?

          Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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          OriginalGriff
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          Eh? Whassat? Type up young man - I just had toast!

          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            Eh? Whassat? Type up young man - I just had toast!

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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            CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW OLD MAN?

            Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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              CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW OLD MAN?

              Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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              OriginalGriff
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              TWENTY FIVE PAST ELEVEN!

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW OLD MAN?

                Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Just a splash please.

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                  Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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                  I'm running an experiment right now where I don't avoid saturated fats and see if it kills me. Will let you know in 50 - 70 years. It's harder than you may think, almost every product these days is completely free of any nutritional value. Food these days is just cardboard, air, water and a mildly toxic artificial sweetener.

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                    Just a splash please.

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                    Simon_Whale
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                    in a bucket?

                    Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                      Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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                      Erudite_Eric wrote:

                      I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

                      Some rumor tells that it does not make deaf neither.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                        in a bucket?

                        Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        Flowers as well, how kind.

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                          Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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                          Corporal Agarn
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                          If this was in the Soapbox I would say GW but I cannot do that in the Lounge. ;)

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                            Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Do you think we somehow don't know what you're really getting at? :doh:

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                              If this was in the Soapbox I would say GW but I cannot do that in the Lounge. ;)

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Here's a clue, Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre.

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                                Do you think we somehow don't know what you're really getting at? :doh:

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                                ... or maybe we don't give an elephant.

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                                  Here's a clue, Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre.

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                                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                  Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre

                                  He doesn't believe in the Internet top-level domain of Guinea-Bissau?

                                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    Here's a clue, Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre.

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                                    Simon_Whale
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                                    Ooh Ooh do I have time to get the popcorn before it all kicks off?

                                    Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                                      ... or maybe we don't give an elephant.

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                                      ...yet you had to reply...

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                                        Flowers as well, how kind.

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                                        Simon_Whale
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                                        shh else Griff will want flowers too

                                        Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                                          Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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                                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                          Really, Keneysian Economics taught us that first. But it is only now that that bad policy is slowly being allowed to be questioned. The research didn't shape the policy, the Government needed backing for a predecided policy and made the scientist famous.

                                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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