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Nice example of how science can get it completely wrong and mislead govt policy for decades.

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  • H hairy_hats

    Do you think we somehow don't know what you're really getting at? :doh:

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    ... or maybe we don't give an elephant.

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      Here's a clue, Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre.

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      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

      Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre

      He doesn't believe in the Internet top-level domain of Guinea-Bissau?

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        Here's a clue, Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre.

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        Ooh Ooh do I have time to get the popcorn before it all kicks off?

        Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          ... or maybe we don't give an elephant.

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          Erudite_Eric
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          ...yet you had to reply...

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            Flowers as well, how kind.

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            Simon_Whale
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            shh else Griff will want flowers too

            Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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            • E Erudite_Eric

              Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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              Really, Keneysian Economics taught us that first. But it is only now that that bad policy is slowly being allowed to be questioned. The research didn't shape the policy, the Government needed backing for a predecided policy and made the scientist famous.

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                shh else Griff will want flowers too

                Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                Flowers. Pretty. Mine? Where?

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  Really, Keneysian Economics taught us that first. But it is only now that that bad policy is slowly being allowed to be questioned. The research didn't shape the policy, the Government needed backing for a predecided policy and made the scientist famous.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                  Yeah, that's also common.

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                    Flowers. Pretty. Mine? Where?

                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    They're in the BUCKET!

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                    • E Erudite_Eric

                      Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

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                      Erudite_Eric wrote:

                      I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

                      ... the whole cholesterol myth that's kept the drug companies raking it in for years on the statin gravy train!

                      My logic is impeccable; my arithmetic lets me down.

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                        Erudite_Eric wrote:

                        I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

                        ... the whole cholesterol myth that's kept the drug companies raking it in for years on the statin gravy train!

                        My logic is impeccable; my arithmetic lets me down.

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                        Yep. Corrupt science. Got to be really cynical about what you are told and think for yourself. Especialy about what interests the various prties have.

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