Windows makes me puke.
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So for a year I have switched to and been working on Linux. What fun, nice, simple, predictable, logical, 'does what it says on the tin' kind of an OS. Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs, and generally having a lot of fun. Now I have had to take a look at one of the firms Windows drivers, and I am trying to run it through the WHQL test kit... What a pain in the arse the WHQL kit is. It is SO hard to get it to install properly. SO hard to get it to run properly. SO hard to get it to produce consistent results, that it reminds me exactly why I got totally pissed off with working with Windows; it has so many hoops to jump through you forget what you are actually trying to achieve and get utterly worn out and frustrated in the process to the point you feel like taking a claw hammer to all your Windows PCs. Christ I hate Windows. It makes me want to puke. Now I know why Mark Russinovich looks so knackered.
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So for a year I have switched to and been working on Linux. What fun, nice, simple, predictable, logical, 'does what it says on the tin' kind of an OS. Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs, and generally having a lot of fun. Now I have had to take a look at one of the firms Windows drivers, and I am trying to run it through the WHQL test kit... What a pain in the arse the WHQL kit is. It is SO hard to get it to install properly. SO hard to get it to run properly. SO hard to get it to produce consistent results, that it reminds me exactly why I got totally pissed off with working with Windows; it has so many hoops to jump through you forget what you are actually trying to achieve and get utterly worn out and frustrated in the process to the point you feel like taking a claw hammer to all your Windows PCs. Christ I hate Windows. It makes me want to puke. Now I know why Mark Russinovich looks so knackered.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
working on Linux
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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So for a year I have switched to and been working on Linux. What fun, nice, simple, predictable, logical, 'does what it says on the tin' kind of an OS. Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs, and generally having a lot of fun. Now I have had to take a look at one of the firms Windows drivers, and I am trying to run it through the WHQL test kit... What a pain in the arse the WHQL kit is. It is SO hard to get it to install properly. SO hard to get it to run properly. SO hard to get it to produce consistent results, that it reminds me exactly why I got totally pissed off with working with Windows; it has so many hoops to jump through you forget what you are actually trying to achieve and get utterly worn out and frustrated in the process to the point you feel like taking a claw hammer to all your Windows PCs. Christ I hate Windows. It makes me want to puke. Now I know why Mark Russinovich looks so knackered.
I've often thought of abandoning Windows and moving to Linux for a change of pace. How long did it take you to learn Linux well enough to become employed at working on it?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
working on Linux
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
working on Linux
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
:thumbsup: You beat me to it. That is exactly what I thought when I read that statement.
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
working on Linux
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
Mark H2 wrote:
if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs
Why do you think that is a clever reply? Its typical of the narrow minded partisan stupidity evident in human nature. If you actually read what I wrote you will realize I said I enjoy working on Linux far more than Windows not that Linux was 'shit hot'.
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:thumbsup: You beat me to it. That is exactly what I thought when I read that statement.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
That is exactly what I thought when I read that statement
Then you are equally stupid. How does saying one enjoys working on Linux mean one thinks Linux is 'shit hot'? The stupidity of people is staggering.
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I've often thought of abandoning Windows and moving to Linux for a change of pace. How long did it take you to learn Linux well enough to become employed at working on it?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
How long did it take you to learn Linux well enough to become employed at working on it
About a month. The kernel is very similar to windows, PASSIVE is process, DISPATCH and DIRQ, soft and hard interrupt. DPCs are work items, spin locks are spinlocks and so on. The language is C and the protocols and HW interfacing are the same. The only difference is the API to the kernel and different tools; using test editors to edit code rather than VS, and having to use your own code profiling tools because browse info isn't built. Debugging is different too. Windbg is a great tool, and Linux has nothing like it, so the best that can be done is with kgdb, which isn't bad. Once annoyance, you cant build an entire kernel in debug (un optimized) mode, only per file using #pragma. You have to do that to have proper step through in the kernel. You also cant break into the OS at boot time and automatically drop into a debugger on exception, like in Windows. But it is so much easier to write code for, so many less hoops to jump through, that you can really focus on getting your work done rather than dicking around. Right now I am trying to run the MSFT HCK client on Vista, to fix a bug in a third party windows driver, and the HCK client isn't a valid win32 app apparently. This is typical MSFT. Absoloute shitty experience. Days and days and days I have wasted fucking around with this crap trying to get consistent results out of it and so far, zero. That's the Windows experience all over.
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JimmyRopes wrote:
That is exactly what I thought when I read that statement
Then you are equally stupid. How does saying one enjoys working on Linux mean one thinks Linux is 'shit hot'? The stupidity of people is staggering.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
Then you are equally stupid.
Down boy. Don't get your panties in a bunch! You Linux evangelists may follow blindly but that doesn't make others stupid, that just makes you a blind evangelist.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
How does saying one enjoys working on Linux mean one thinks Linux is 'sh*t hot'?
You don't think Linux is shit hot? It sure sounded like you did.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
The stupidity of people is staggering.
Is that an admission? :rolleyes:
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Then you are equally stupid.
Down boy. Don't get your panties in a bunch! You Linux evangelists may follow blindly but that doesn't make others stupid, that just makes you a blind evangelist.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
How does saying one enjoys working on Linux mean one thinks Linux is 'sh*t hot'?
You don't think Linux is shit hot? It sure sounded like you did.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
The stupidity of people is staggering.
Is that an admission? :rolleyes:
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
You Linux evangelists
Where did I say I was a Linux evangelist? You really are one stupid sob. Tell me, what has Linux got to do with a third party driver written for a chunk of hardware that just happens to be used on a particular SOC?
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
working on Linux
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
Mark H2 wrote:
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
Because he can, unlike in Windows.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Mark H2 wrote:
if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs
Why do you think that is a clever reply? Its typical of the narrow minded partisan stupidity evident in human nature. If you actually read what I wrote you will realize I said I enjoy working on Linux far more than Windows not that Linux was 'shit hot'.
Well, if getting sh*tty with people for what is quite obviously a flipant comment is your way of dealing with things then help yourself. Where I work we take the p*ss out of each other all day every day. Nobody gets wound up about it.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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Mark H2 wrote:
Soon you'll be looking knackered. Um, if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs? :)
Because he can, unlike in Windows.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Ahh, why didn't I think of that! Oh, I know, its 'cos I'm stupid and narrow minded :-D
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
