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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    I'd forgotten why I moved away from COBOL, now I remember. X|

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    Jorgen Andersson
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    You have moved up in the world now. :-D

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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    • J Jorgen Andersson

      You have moved up in the world now. :-D

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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      Nagy Vilmos
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      In the balance, I'd lean towards COBOL over VB6 just for the novelty value.

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      • D DeathByChocolate

        Oh drat! .... that's my laptop cover gone! :mad: ... unless I can come up with an even better post to persuade Griff that I deserve it the most ... This is for you Griff!!![^]:rose::rose::rose: :-D

        "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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        Mike Hankey
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        Too funny! You must really want that sleeve?

        Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          You said Tuesday was good for COBOL:

          000010 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
          000020 PROGRAM-ID. SLEEVE.
          000030 AUTHOR. NAGY VILMOS.
          000040 DATE-WRITTEN. 2014-03-25
          000050 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
          000060 INPUT-OUTPUT SECTION.
          000070 FILE-CONTROL.
          000080 SELECT GRIFF-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSIN
          000090 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
          000100 SELECT VILMOS-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSOUT
          000110 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
          000120
          000130 DATA DIVISION.
          000140 FILE SECTION.
          000150 FD GRIFF-FILE
          000160 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
          000170 DATA RECORD IS GRIFF-IN.
          000180 01 GRIFF-IN
          000181 05 SOURCE PIC X(11).
          000182 05 FILLER PIC X(69).
          000190
          000200 FD VILMOS-FILE
          000210 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
          000220 DATA RECORD IS VILMOS-OUT.
          000230 01 VILMOS-OUT PIC X(80).
          000240
          000250 WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
          000260 01 DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH PIC X(2) VALUE SPACES.
          000261 01 RECORDS-WRITTEN PIC 99.
          000270
          000320 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
          000321
          000330 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
          000340 OPEN INPUT GRIFF-FILE
          000350 OUTPUT VILMOS-FILE.
          000351 MOVE ZERO TO RECORDS-WRITTEN.
          000360 READ GRIFF-FILE
          000370 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
          000380 END-READ.
          000390 PERFORM TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE
          000410 UNTIL DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH = 'NO'.
          000420 CLOSE GRIFF-FILE
          000430 VILMOS-FILE.
          000440 STOP RUN.
          000450
          000460 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
          000470 MOVE GRIFF-IN TO VILMOS-OUT.
          000480 IF SOURCE = 'CODEPROJECT'
          000490 WRITE VILMOS-OUT.
          000500 READ GRIFF-FILE
          000510 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
          000520 END-READ.

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          Nueman
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          #14

          You forgot to put NSFW in the subject line.

          What we got here is a failure to communicate

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            In the balance, I'd lean towards COBOL over VB6 just for the novelty value.

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            Jorgen Andersson
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            And you're also moving away from VB6, just not as far as you'd want to.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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            • D DeathByChocolate

              Oh drat! .... that's my laptop cover gone! :mad: ... unless I can come up with an even better post to persuade Griff that I deserve it the most ... This is for you Griff!!![^]:rose::rose::rose: :-D

              "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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              Nagy Vilmos
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              I'll see you and raise you![^]

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                You said Tuesday was good for COBOL:

                000010 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
                000020 PROGRAM-ID. SLEEVE.
                000030 AUTHOR. NAGY VILMOS.
                000040 DATE-WRITTEN. 2014-03-25
                000050 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
                000060 INPUT-OUTPUT SECTION.
                000070 FILE-CONTROL.
                000080 SELECT GRIFF-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSIN
                000090 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                000100 SELECT VILMOS-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSOUT
                000110 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                000120
                000130 DATA DIVISION.
                000140 FILE SECTION.
                000150 FD GRIFF-FILE
                000160 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                000170 DATA RECORD IS GRIFF-IN.
                000180 01 GRIFF-IN
                000181 05 SOURCE PIC X(11).
                000182 05 FILLER PIC X(69).
                000190
                000200 FD VILMOS-FILE
                000210 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                000220 DATA RECORD IS VILMOS-OUT.
                000230 01 VILMOS-OUT PIC X(80).
                000240
                000250 WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
                000260 01 DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH PIC X(2) VALUE SPACES.
                000261 01 RECORDS-WRITTEN PIC 99.
                000270
                000320 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
                000321
                000330 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                000340 OPEN INPUT GRIFF-FILE
                000350 OUTPUT VILMOS-FILE.
                000351 MOVE ZERO TO RECORDS-WRITTEN.
                000360 READ GRIFF-FILE
                000370 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                000380 END-READ.
                000390 PERFORM TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE
                000410 UNTIL DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH = 'NO'.
                000420 CLOSE GRIFF-FILE
                000430 VILMOS-FILE.
                000440 STOP RUN.
                000450
                000460 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                000470 MOVE GRIFF-IN TO VILMOS-OUT.
                000480 IF SOURCE = 'CODEPROJECT'
                000490 WRITE VILMOS-OUT.
                000500 READ GRIFF-FILE
                000510 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                000520 END-READ.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                Aaaaah my eyes X| No kidding, we had COBOL in uni. Two years in a row and two years in a row I woke up screaming of the nightmares I had the night before the exam. (true story actually :sigh: ) So griff, for all my suffering, I still deserve the laptop sleeve no ;P ?

                V.
                (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

                OriginalGriff wrote:

                V is absolutely right

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  And you're also moving away from VB6, just not as far as you'd want to.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                  Nagy Vilmos
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  :sigh:

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    You said Tuesday was good for COBOL:

                    000010 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
                    000020 PROGRAM-ID. SLEEVE.
                    000030 AUTHOR. NAGY VILMOS.
                    000040 DATE-WRITTEN. 2014-03-25
                    000050 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
                    000060 INPUT-OUTPUT SECTION.
                    000070 FILE-CONTROL.
                    000080 SELECT GRIFF-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSIN
                    000090 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                    000100 SELECT VILMOS-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSOUT
                    000110 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                    000120
                    000130 DATA DIVISION.
                    000140 FILE SECTION.
                    000150 FD GRIFF-FILE
                    000160 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                    000170 DATA RECORD IS GRIFF-IN.
                    000180 01 GRIFF-IN
                    000181 05 SOURCE PIC X(11).
                    000182 05 FILLER PIC X(69).
                    000190
                    000200 FD VILMOS-FILE
                    000210 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                    000220 DATA RECORD IS VILMOS-OUT.
                    000230 01 VILMOS-OUT PIC X(80).
                    000240
                    000250 WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
                    000260 01 DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH PIC X(2) VALUE SPACES.
                    000261 01 RECORDS-WRITTEN PIC 99.
                    000270
                    000320 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
                    000321
                    000330 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                    000340 OPEN INPUT GRIFF-FILE
                    000350 OUTPUT VILMOS-FILE.
                    000351 MOVE ZERO TO RECORDS-WRITTEN.
                    000360 READ GRIFF-FILE
                    000370 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                    000380 END-READ.
                    000390 PERFORM TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE
                    000410 UNTIL DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH = 'NO'.
                    000420 CLOSE GRIFF-FILE
                    000430 VILMOS-FILE.
                    000440 STOP RUN.
                    000450
                    000460 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                    000470 MOVE GRIFF-IN TO VILMOS-OUT.
                    000480 IF SOURCE = 'CODEPROJECT'
                    000490 WRITE VILMOS-OUT.
                    000500 READ GRIFF-FILE
                    000510 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                    000520 END-READ.

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    Now that was a real hit - I didn't saw COBOL for over 15 years...You made my day (or what left of it)!

                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      You said Tuesday was good for COBOL:

                      000010 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
                      000020 PROGRAM-ID. SLEEVE.
                      000030 AUTHOR. NAGY VILMOS.
                      000040 DATE-WRITTEN. 2014-03-25
                      000050 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
                      000060 INPUT-OUTPUT SECTION.
                      000070 FILE-CONTROL.
                      000080 SELECT GRIFF-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSIN
                      000090 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                      000100 SELECT VILMOS-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSOUT
                      000110 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                      000120
                      000130 DATA DIVISION.
                      000140 FILE SECTION.
                      000150 FD GRIFF-FILE
                      000160 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                      000170 DATA RECORD IS GRIFF-IN.
                      000180 01 GRIFF-IN
                      000181 05 SOURCE PIC X(11).
                      000182 05 FILLER PIC X(69).
                      000190
                      000200 FD VILMOS-FILE
                      000210 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                      000220 DATA RECORD IS VILMOS-OUT.
                      000230 01 VILMOS-OUT PIC X(80).
                      000240
                      000250 WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
                      000260 01 DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH PIC X(2) VALUE SPACES.
                      000261 01 RECORDS-WRITTEN PIC 99.
                      000270
                      000320 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
                      000321
                      000330 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                      000340 OPEN INPUT GRIFF-FILE
                      000350 OUTPUT VILMOS-FILE.
                      000351 MOVE ZERO TO RECORDS-WRITTEN.
                      000360 READ GRIFF-FILE
                      000370 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                      000380 END-READ.
                      000390 PERFORM TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE
                      000410 UNTIL DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH = 'NO'.
                      000420 CLOSE GRIFF-FILE
                      000430 VILMOS-FILE.
                      000440 STOP RUN.
                      000450
                      000460 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                      000470 MOVE GRIFF-IN TO VILMOS-OUT.
                      000480 IF SOURCE = 'CODEPROJECT'
                      000490 WRITE VILMOS-OUT.
                      000500 READ GRIFF-FILE
                      000510 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                      000520 END-READ.

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                      Tim Carmichael
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      My eyes are burning... haven't had to look at COBOL since college...

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        Too funny! You must really want that sleeve?

                        Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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                        DeathByChocolate
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        Well, I do like a challenge (and I know the way to Griff's heart)! :-D

                        "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          I'll see you and raise you![^]

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                          DeathByChocolate
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                          #22

                          :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I fail to see how that, which is basically a balloon badly shaped as a fluffy animal, is better than 4, that is FOUR, perfectly formed chocolate sheep! Your raise is a fail! ;P

                          "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                          • D DeathByChocolate

                            :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I fail to see how that, which is basically a balloon badly shaped as a fluffy animal, is better than 4, that is FOUR, perfectly formed chocolate sheep! Your raise is a fail! ;P

                            "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            #23

                            But you see young lady, you can't [REDACTED] chocolate!

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              But you see young lady, you can't [REDACTED] chocolate!

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                              DeathByChocolate
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              ... all I got from that was "young" and "lady"! ;P

                              "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                You said Tuesday was good for COBOL:

                                000010 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
                                000020 PROGRAM-ID. SLEEVE.
                                000030 AUTHOR. NAGY VILMOS.
                                000040 DATE-WRITTEN. 2014-03-25
                                000050 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
                                000060 INPUT-OUTPUT SECTION.
                                000070 FILE-CONTROL.
                                000080 SELECT GRIFF-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSIN
                                000090 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                                000100 SELECT VILMOS-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSOUT
                                000110 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                                000120
                                000130 DATA DIVISION.
                                000140 FILE SECTION.
                                000150 FD GRIFF-FILE
                                000160 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                                000170 DATA RECORD IS GRIFF-IN.
                                000180 01 GRIFF-IN
                                000181 05 SOURCE PIC X(11).
                                000182 05 FILLER PIC X(69).
                                000190
                                000200 FD VILMOS-FILE
                                000210 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                                000220 DATA RECORD IS VILMOS-OUT.
                                000230 01 VILMOS-OUT PIC X(80).
                                000240
                                000250 WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
                                000260 01 DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH PIC X(2) VALUE SPACES.
                                000261 01 RECORDS-WRITTEN PIC 99.
                                000270
                                000320 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
                                000321
                                000330 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                                000340 OPEN INPUT GRIFF-FILE
                                000350 OUTPUT VILMOS-FILE.
                                000351 MOVE ZERO TO RECORDS-WRITTEN.
                                000360 READ GRIFF-FILE
                                000370 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                                000380 END-READ.
                                000390 PERFORM TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE
                                000410 UNTIL DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH = 'NO'.
                                000420 CLOSE GRIFF-FILE
                                000430 VILMOS-FILE.
                                000440 STOP RUN.
                                000450
                                000460 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                                000470 MOVE GRIFF-IN TO VILMOS-OUT.
                                000480 IF SOURCE = 'CODEPROJECT'
                                000490 WRITE VILMOS-OUT.
                                000500 READ GRIFF-FILE
                                000510 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                                000520 END-READ.

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                                BobJanova
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                                #25

                                I don't understand this. I think that makes me young and lucky.

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  In the balance, I'd lean towards COBOL over VB6 just for the novelty value.

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                                  Roger Wright
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                  I'd lean towards COBOL over VB6 just for the novelty value.

                                  Not to mention the increased efficiency!

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  • D DeathByChocolate

                                    Well, I do like a challenge (and I know the way to Griff's heart)! :-D

                                    "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                                    Roger Wright
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    DeathByChocolate wrote:

                                    I know the way to Griff's heart)

                                    Would that be the sheep, or the chocolate? ;)

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      You said Tuesday was good for COBOL:

                                      000010 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
                                      000020 PROGRAM-ID. SLEEVE.
                                      000030 AUTHOR. NAGY VILMOS.
                                      000040 DATE-WRITTEN. 2014-03-25
                                      000050 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
                                      000060 INPUT-OUTPUT SECTION.
                                      000070 FILE-CONTROL.
                                      000080 SELECT GRIFF-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSIN
                                      000090 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                                      000100 SELECT VILMOS-FILE ASSIGN TO SYSOUT
                                      000110 ORGANIZATION IS LINE SEQUENTIAL.
                                      000120
                                      000130 DATA DIVISION.
                                      000140 FILE SECTION.
                                      000150 FD GRIFF-FILE
                                      000160 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                                      000170 DATA RECORD IS GRIFF-IN.
                                      000180 01 GRIFF-IN
                                      000181 05 SOURCE PIC X(11).
                                      000182 05 FILLER PIC X(69).
                                      000190
                                      000200 FD VILMOS-FILE
                                      000210 RECORD CONTAINS 80 CHARACTERS
                                      000220 DATA RECORD IS VILMOS-OUT.
                                      000230 01 VILMOS-OUT PIC X(80).
                                      000240
                                      000250 WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
                                      000260 01 DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH PIC X(2) VALUE SPACES.
                                      000261 01 RECORDS-WRITTEN PIC 99.
                                      000270
                                      000320 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
                                      000321
                                      000330 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                                      000340 OPEN INPUT GRIFF-FILE
                                      000350 OUTPUT VILMOS-FILE.
                                      000351 MOVE ZERO TO RECORDS-WRITTEN.
                                      000360 READ GRIFF-FILE
                                      000370 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                                      000380 END-READ.
                                      000390 PERFORM TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE
                                      000410 UNTIL DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH = 'NO'.
                                      000420 CLOSE GRIFF-FILE
                                      000430 VILMOS-FILE.
                                      000440 STOP RUN.
                                      000450
                                      000460 TRANSFER-LAPTOP-SLEEVE.
                                      000470 MOVE GRIFF-IN TO VILMOS-OUT.
                                      000480 IF SOURCE = 'CODEPROJECT'
                                      000490 WRITE VILMOS-OUT.
                                      000500 READ GRIFF-FILE
                                      000510 AT END MOVE 'NO' TO DATA-REMAINS-SWITCH
                                      000520 END-READ.

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                                      Roger Wright
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #28

                                      Brilliant! :-D I haven't done/seen COBOL since 1975! It took 200 Hollerith cards to do a 'Hello World' program, and my version generated 152 errors while compiling. The computer center expert that 'owned' the sacred COBOL manual could not identify one thing wrong with my code. That was my first and last attempt to use it, and I've never missed it. X|

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                        Brilliant! :-D I haven't done/seen COBOL since 1975! It took 200 Hollerith cards to do a 'Hello World' program, and my version generated 152 errors while compiling. The computer center expert that 'owned' the sacred COBOL manual could not identify one thing wrong with my code. That was my first and last attempt to use it, and I've never missed it. X|

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #29

                                        For five years I was a fully paid up COBOL CODE MONKEY, it took me ages to stop using capitals.

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                                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                                          For five years I was a fully paid up COBOL CODE MONKEY, it took me ages to stop using capitals.

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                                          Roger Wright
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          Oh, you poor man! That explains so much about the way you turned out... :omg:

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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