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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:

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    Lost User
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    I never got into Git because the name is so stupid. I'm tired of stupid names for technology. I'm relieved that it sucks - now I can allow my curiosity die and think of it no more.

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      MarkTJohnson wrote:

      We have kind of abandoned branching because it looks and feels like stuff vanishes.

      :omg: Branching is the cornerstone of Git (and actually any VCS.) If you don't understand the minimum of how to create, switch, pull and push branches in Git, you shouldn't be using Git. Even with SVN, it's standard to create "dev, test, and prod" branches at a minimum. I'd strongly suggest that your team takes a step back and figures out at least that much of the basics of Git. Marc

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      MarkTJohnson
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      Trust me, if I didn't have to use it I wouldn't. PVCS was wonderful. I could lock the file I was working on and know my changes would go in. If someone had a file I needed locked then I knew I could work on some other item in my queue but we wouldn't be stepping on each other's code.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Never tried it. No plans to try it. Using TFS at work and at least it's a step up from Subversion.

        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          MarkTJohnson wrote:

          We have kind of abandoned branching because it looks and feels like stuff vanishes.

          :omg: Branching is the cornerstone of Git (and actually any VCS.) If you don't understand the minimum of how to create, switch, pull and push branches in Git, you shouldn't be using Git. Even with SVN, it's standard to create "dev, test, and prod" branches at a minimum. I'd strongly suggest that your team takes a step back and figures out at least that much of the basics of Git. Marc

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Branching is evil and should be avoided. It's a sign of a flawed process.

          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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            I never got into Git because the name is so stupid. I'm tired of stupid names for technology. I'm relieved that it sucks - now I can allow my curiosity die and think of it no more.

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            Rage
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            MehGerbil wrote:

            I never got into Git because the name is so stupid.

            ... says MehGerbil... ;P

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:

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              Rage
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              Powerful tool. With power comes responsibility.

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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              • M MarkTJohnson

                Trust me, if I didn't have to use it I wouldn't. PVCS was wonderful. I could lock the file I was working on and know my changes would go in. If someone had a file I needed locked then I knew I could work on some other item in my queue but we wouldn't be stepping on each other's code.

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                Marc Clifton
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                MarkTJohnson wrote:

                I could lock the file I was working on and know my changes would go in. If someone had a file I needed locked

                Ew. I hated locking files. I thought it was a huge improvement to work with something like SVN that didn't require file locking, and was one of the reasons I never adopted TFS because in its early days, it required file locking. Inevitably, someone would leave a file locked at the end of the day and was nowhere to be found. Marc

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Branching is evil and should be avoided. It's a sign of a flawed process.

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  Branching is evil and should be avoided. It's a sign of a flawed process.

                  Why? I'm on the fence (having seen the usefulness of it in Git), but want to know your reasons. Marc

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                    MehGerbil wrote:

                    I never got into Git because the name is so stupid.

                    ... says MehGerbil... ;P

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                    Lost User
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                    *moves Rage over to the 'not nice' column*

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                    • R Rage

                      Powerful tool. With power comes responsibility.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      I could say the same thing about a pneumatic drill, but it doesn't mean I want to use one!

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:

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                        Cristian Amarie
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                        Allow me to bring my modest contribution. (CEF build excerpt) $ git svn find-rev r251746 _ Oh, I forgot to say: this was started 2 hours ago. Thanks, I have my Ctrl/C.

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                        • R Rage

                          Powerful tool. With power comes responsibility.

                          ~RaGE();

                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                          Cristian Amarie
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                          Sure. Let's drive a Panzer VI instead of a car. More power, more responsibility. Heil Git.

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                            Never tried it. No plans to try it. Using TFS at work and at least it's a step up from Subversion.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            Rob Philpott
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                            Er, no.

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              I could say the same thing about a pneumatic drill, but it doesn't mean I want to use one!

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                              Rage
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                              No, but if you do, you'd better understand how it works... Decentralised configuration management systems are not trivial (centralised neither, but state-of-the-art now). Plus if you do not need the decentralized way, you may use it as a plain normal centralized version as well.

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                              • C Cristian Amarie

                                Sure. Let's drive a Panzer VI instead of a car. More power, more responsibility. Heil Git.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                But can it get from Berlin to Warsaw on one tank of fuel?

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                  We have kind of abandoned branching because it looks and feels like stuff vanishes.

                                  :omg: Branching is the cornerstone of Git (and actually any VCS.) If you don't understand the minimum of how to create, switch, pull and push branches in Git, you shouldn't be using Git. Even with SVN, it's standard to create "dev, test, and prod" branches at a minimum. I'd strongly suggest that your team takes a step back and figures out at least that much of the basics of Git. Marc

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                                  Rage
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                                  Well, they want back to the first feature of source control : backup ! I definitely need to write that article about it...

                                  ~RaGE();

                                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:

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                                    Rob Philpott
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                                    Most useful post I've read today. I was under the impression that GIT cured all source control ills, and I was some sort of luddite for not knowing anything about it. Now I know everyone despises it I will let it bother me no more.

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      Most useful post I've read today. I was under the impression that GIT cured all source control ills, and I was some sort of luddite for not knowing anything about it. Now I know everyone despises it I will let it bother me no more.

                                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      Jon Clare
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                                      Chalk up one for not despising it here. I've been using it for the past few months and there's definitely a fairly steep learning curve if you've never used a DVCS before. It certainly has some quirks and annoyances, but as I get used to things I see the benefits. I think the key is finding a workflow that works for what you're doing. I generally use SourceTree as a GUI, which is pretty good, and fall back to the command line when doing some things that aren't supported (interactive rebase being the primary one)

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                                      • M MarkTJohnson

                                        We have kind of abandoned branching because it looks and feels like stuff vanishes. Programmers work with files not directory structures, Linus.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Hear hear!

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                                          Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:

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                                          Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                          Personally I have little issue with Git. But I just knew that someone would come along and tell everybody the difficulty was their own fault. How nauseatingly immature that is, and how self-destructive. Trying to defend, blindly, a piece of software against a chorus of criticism, developer criticism at that, shows total disregard for the end user and I for one would never show any interest in adopting products created by people like that. Did I already mention I have no problem with Git?

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