Git!
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Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:
I'm using Git with git flow (http://danielkummer.github.io/git-flow-cheatsheet/[^]) and i love it ...
gzo
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Oh Jeez, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. 93. There are 93 different ways in which I hate GIT! I have to use the bloody thing and I'm not sure if I'm pointing to the right repo or not. Elephants! :confused: :sigh: :mad: :wtf: :beer:
Making git easy... http://gitblit.com/[^] http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/[^]
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I'm working with git as an extension to VS's Team Explorer (VS 2012/2013) and had no problem so far (4 months)...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
As far as I knew, VS Team Server Explorer shipped with version control (Last version I had success with was 2010, 2012 didn't play nice with the rest of the team's setup so I threw it out.) From what I've read about GIT, it seemed really unfriendly. The interfaces in VSTS were UI, web link, and command, I thought GIT was console command only.
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Rage wrote:
Decentralised configuration management systems...
Presumably that was a misstatement.
Rage wrote:
Plus if you do not need the decentralized way, you may use it as a plain normal centralized version as well.
Doesn't alter the fact that is missing a primary feature for anything above a small company - that of management of multiple products where there are non-trivial code dependencies between them.
jschell wrote:
Presumably that was a misstatement.
How that ? No, dfinitely Distributed/Decentralised Configuration Management System.
jschell wrote:
here there are non-trivial code dependencies between them
Define "non trivial" ? DCMS can do everything what a normal CMS can do, so either what you are trying to achieve is not feasible with centralised configuration management, or your code structure was not made up properly.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I'm using Git with git flow (http://danielkummer.github.io/git-flow-cheatsheet/[^]) and i love it ...
gzo
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jschell wrote:
Presumably that was a misstatement.
How that ? No, dfinitely Distributed/Decentralised Configuration Management System.
jschell wrote:
here there are non-trivial code dependencies between them
Define "non trivial" ? DCMS can do everything what a normal CMS can do, so either what you are trying to achieve is not feasible with centralised configuration management, or your code structure was not made up properly.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
Rage wrote:
No, dfinitely Distributed/Decentralised Configuration Management System.
Because that isn't what Git is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configuration_management#Overview[^]
Rage wrote:
Define "non trivial" ? DCMS can do everything what a normal CMS...
If we are talking about Git then it does not have a mechanism for dealing with independent deliverables which share code (not other deliverables) because each repository is optimized for dealing with a single deliverable. This works well for open source internet projects. It doesn't work for a company with different product lines because the end up kludging solutions either with multiple repositories or a single repository. Other source control systems do.
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MarkTJohnson wrote:
I could lock the file I was working on and know my changes would go in. If someone had a file I needed locked
Ew. I hated locking files. I thought it was a huge improvement to work with something like SVN that didn't require file locking, and was one of the reasons I never adopted TFS because in its early days, it required file locking. Inevitably, someone would leave a file locked at the end of the day and was nowhere to be found. Marc
"someone would leave a file locked at the end of the day and was nowhere to be found"
Same happened in my org, someone left entire directory (containing a big project) locked (reserved checked-out) in ClearCase on his last working day and we had to copy the dir with dir_new :-) I really hate ClearCase, when it take 5 seconds just to show the diff. Git is fast.
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Rage wrote:
No, dfinitely Distributed/Decentralised Configuration Management System.
Because that isn't what Git is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configuration_management#Overview[^]
Rage wrote:
Define "non trivial" ? DCMS can do everything what a normal CMS...
If we are talking about Git then it does not have a mechanism for dealing with independent deliverables which share code (not other deliverables) because each repository is optimized for dealing with a single deliverable. This works well for open source internet projects. It doesn't work for a company with different product lines because the end up kludging solutions either with multiple repositories or a single repository. Other source control systems do.
jschell wrote:
Because that isn't what Git is
Source control is one part of configuration management. To be precise, since this is what you are after, let's call it a distributed version control system instead of configuration management system, even if one can argue a version control system in software development can handle about everything required by configuration management.
jschell wrote:
If we are talking about Git then it does not have a mechanism for dealing with independent deliverables which share code
Still do not understand what Git cannot do. How would you do that with Subversions ? Or ClearCase ? or SourceSafe ? or Vault ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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jschell wrote:
Because that isn't what Git is
Source control is one part of configuration management. To be precise, since this is what you are after, let's call it a distributed version control system instead of configuration management system, even if one can argue a version control system in software development can handle about everything required by configuration management.
jschell wrote:
If we are talking about Git then it does not have a mechanism for dealing with independent deliverables which share code
Still do not understand what Git cannot do. How would you do that with Subversions ? Or ClearCase ? or SourceSafe ? or Vault ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
Rage wrote:
Source control is one part of configuration management
Yes - so git is one part of configuration management.
Rage wrote:
Still do not understand what Git cannot do. How would you do that with Subversions
I can manage (check out, version, etc) only one directory under a tree of directories in Subversion. Git requires multiple repositories for the same ability.
