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    After the leaking explorer incident in my post a few days back, I installed Windows 8.1. Got it set up to boot to Desktop, and since I use the keyboard much more than the mouse, I hardly notice any difference. Some shortcuts like Win+X are actually quite an improvement. Client Hyper-V looks promising, currently fiddling with it to set up some test VMs. Anybody have any experience with it? Any tips on what to watch out for will be much appreciated...

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      After the leaking explorer incident in my post a few days back, I installed Windows 8.1. Got it set up to boot to Desktop, and since I use the keyboard much more than the mouse, I hardly notice any difference. Some shortcuts like Win+X are actually quite an improvement. Client Hyper-V looks promising, currently fiddling with it to set up some test VMs. Anybody have any experience with it? Any tips on what to watch out for will be much appreciated...

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      For one, the Hyper-V manager in Windows 8 won't let you manage VMs running on Server 2008 R2. Which is pretty dumb as the Hyper-V manager you can run on Windows 7 does. Other than that, I can see very little that's different between "client" Hyper-V and the version you run on server OSes.

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        After the leaking explorer incident in my post a few days back, I installed Windows 8.1. Got it set up to boot to Desktop, and since I use the keyboard much more than the mouse, I hardly notice any difference. Some shortcuts like Win+X are actually quite an improvement. Client Hyper-V looks promising, currently fiddling with it to set up some test VMs. Anybody have any experience with it? Any tips on what to watch out for will be much appreciated...

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        One thing about Hyper-V: When you install it, it disables CPU throttling. So the CPU speed won't vary with the load.

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          After the leaking explorer incident in my post a few days back, I installed Windows 8.1. Got it set up to boot to Desktop, and since I use the keyboard much more than the mouse, I hardly notice any difference. Some shortcuts like Win+X are actually quite an improvement. Client Hyper-V looks promising, currently fiddling with it to set up some test VMs. Anybody have any experience with it? Any tips on what to watch out for will be much appreciated...

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          The 1st Generation VMs work well as long as the OS you install has the drivers. I imagine the 2nd Generation VMs work well with a Windows 8 guest, but you need to watch out if installing Linux. While the kernel drivers have been working since 3.10 or 3.11 and Secure Boot can be turned off, the efibootmgr from Intel does not format the entries in a way that complies with the UEFI standard. Thus when it creates entries (and the setup tool for all the boot managers use it) it corrupts the VM config file and renders it unusable. Then Hyper-V stops acknowledging the VM exists and will not even let you delete it. I believe there are some very recent patches in Ubuntu to fix this, but it will be a while before they get to other distros. Till then just name the loader bootx64.efi and put it under "efi/boot" if you care to try.

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            The 1st Generation VMs work well as long as the OS you install has the drivers. I imagine the 2nd Generation VMs work well with a Windows 8 guest, but you need to watch out if installing Linux. While the kernel drivers have been working since 3.10 or 3.11 and Secure Boot can be turned off, the efibootmgr from Intel does not format the entries in a way that complies with the UEFI standard. Thus when it creates entries (and the setup tool for all the boot managers use it) it corrupts the VM config file and renders it unusable. Then Hyper-V stops acknowledging the VM exists and will not even let you delete it. I believe there are some very recent patches in Ubuntu to fix this, but it will be a while before they get to other distros. Till then just name the loader bootx64.efi and put it under "efi/boot" if you care to try.

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            Thanks, that sounds like a hairy situation. I think I'll avoid generation 2 for the moment. --edit-- Integration services for supported Linux operating systems are not included with an installation of Hyper-V. They are distributed through the Microsoft Download Center. For more information, see Linux Integration Components for Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V R2 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=173274) in the Microsoft Download Center. Bummer. I've got no internet connection to my dev PC. More hassle. Stupid paranoid clients. :sigh:

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              Thanks, that sounds like a hairy situation. I think I'll avoid generation 2 for the moment. --edit-- Integration services for supported Linux operating systems are not included with an installation of Hyper-V. They are distributed through the Microsoft Download Center. For more information, see Linux Integration Components for Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V R2 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=173274) in the Microsoft Download Center. Bummer. I've got no internet connection to my dev PC. More hassle. Stupid paranoid clients. :sigh:

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              Those old. Now all Linux guests need is the Hyper-V drivers, which are in the kernel's source tree.

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                After the leaking explorer incident in my post a few days back, I installed Windows 8.1. Got it set up to boot to Desktop, and since I use the keyboard much more than the mouse, I hardly notice any difference. Some shortcuts like Win+X are actually quite an improvement. Client Hyper-V looks promising, currently fiddling with it to set up some test VMs. Anybody have any experience with it? Any tips on what to watch out for will be much appreciated...

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                S u n s h i n e wrote:

                shortcuts like Win+X are actually quite an improvement.

                Yes it is. I use it a lot.

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