Is anyone else of the opinion that everything since XP is actually broken?
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Just had yet another run in with computer browsing, and trying to get it working when switching back to a different local network. And its dead. It did work, you switch networks, come back, and its dead even after enabling computer browsing. This used to work on XP and 2k seamlessly. Vista was a disaster, and IMO there is too much of it inside win7 still.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Just had yet another run in with computer browsing, and trying to get it working when switching back to a different local network. And its dead. It did work, you switch networks, come back, and its dead even after enabling computer browsing. This used to work on XP and 2k seamlessly. Vista was a disaster, and IMO there is too much of it inside win7 still.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
I thought XP started nice and then became quite broken. Windows 7 has been a breath of fresh air. I found Windows 8.x to be amazingly stable (and even grew accustomed to a few of its UI quirks.)
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Just had yet another run in with computer browsing, and trying to get it working when switching back to a different local network. And its dead. It did work, you switch networks, come back, and its dead even after enabling computer browsing. This used to work on XP and 2k seamlessly. Vista was a disaster, and IMO there is too much of it inside win7 still.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
Quite the opposite. Vista got a bad rap, but imho it wasn't all that bad. My only grip with it now is that IE can't be upgraded to current version. I have 8.1 installed on a laptop for testing, but my workhorse is still Win7. To be honest, I pretty much skipped XP altogether moving straight from Win2K to Win7.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Quite the opposite. Vista got a bad rap, but imho it wasn't all that bad. My only grip with it now is that IE can't be upgraded to current version. I have 8.1 installed on a laptop for testing, but my workhorse is still Win7. To be honest, I pretty much skipped XP altogether moving straight from Win2K to Win7.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7. Seems like MS got it right performance wise with 8. Too bad they hung Metro on it.......
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Just had yet another run in with computer browsing, and trying to get it working when switching back to a different local network. And its dead. It did work, you switch networks, come back, and its dead even after enabling computer browsing. This used to work on XP and 2k seamlessly. Vista was a disaster, and IMO there is too much of it inside win7 still.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Vista was a disaster, and IMO there is too much of it inside win7 still.
Try Windows 8. :laugh:
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XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7. Seems like MS got it right performance wise with 8. Too bad they hung Metro on it.......
Ron Anders wrote:
XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7.
That has not been my experience. Windows XP would often freeze up for me. And, while Windows XP had much better performance than Windows Vista, I found that both XP and Vista had worse performance than Windows 7. And, I measure performance. By the way, I either read, or was told, that after the issues with Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft went back to the Windows 2000 code base to develop Windows 7 so that the mistakes made with XP and Vista could be avoided. I dislike Windows 8's UI so much I am staying at Windows 7 until Microsoft either fixes Windows 8 or provides another operating system that makes it easy to switch between multiple applications that are all running simultaneously, just like previous versions of Windows. I am hopeful that the Windows 8.1 update on April 8 will fix this. When, on Ubuntu Linux 12.x, the UI was changed to use the "Unity" by default to support both tablets and desktop system, there were complaints from desktop developers about the new UI. I guess Microsoft developers missed that. I also wish they had read "User Interface Design For Programmers" by Joel Spolsky. This book is like a Cliff's notes version of a UI textbook. An understanding of the book's contents would have avoided lots of the issues with Windows 8. In any event, I don't doubt whatever network issue you're referring to exists. I do wonder what specific issue you're having. There can be more setup for Windows Vista and 7 than XP, because specific security settings have to be bypassed. I don't know if that applies to your situation or not.
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Ron Anders wrote:
XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7.
That has not been my experience. Windows XP would often freeze up for me. And, while Windows XP had much better performance than Windows Vista, I found that both XP and Vista had worse performance than Windows 7. And, I measure performance. By the way, I either read, or was told, that after the issues with Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft went back to the Windows 2000 code base to develop Windows 7 so that the mistakes made with XP and Vista could be avoided. I dislike Windows 8's UI so much I am staying at Windows 7 until Microsoft either fixes Windows 8 or provides another operating system that makes it easy to switch between multiple applications that are all running simultaneously, just like previous versions of Windows. I am hopeful that the Windows 8.1 update on April 8 will fix this. When, on Ubuntu Linux 12.x, the UI was changed to use the "Unity" by default to support both tablets and desktop system, there were complaints from desktop developers about the new UI. I guess Microsoft developers missed that. I also wish they had read "User Interface Design For Programmers" by Joel Spolsky. This book is like a Cliff's notes version of a UI textbook. An understanding of the book's contents would have avoided lots of the issues with Windows 8. In any event, I don't doubt whatever network issue you're referring to exists. I do wonder what specific issue you're having. There can be more setup for Windows Vista and 7 than XP, because specific security settings have to be bypassed. I don't know if that applies to your situation or not.
Bill_Hallahan wrote:
XP would often freeze up for me
That's third party drivers and bloat ware. I bet fresh out of the box it didn't. Cant say the same for win 7 though.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7. Seems like MS got it right performance wise with 8. Too bad they hung Metro on it.......
Yeah. 8 with a third party shell actually feels pretty good. but you need the shell, the stock UI is bollocks.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Ron Anders wrote:
XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7.
That has not been my experience. Windows XP would often freeze up for me. And, while Windows XP had much better performance than Windows Vista, I found that both XP and Vista had worse performance than Windows 7. And, I measure performance. By the way, I either read, or was told, that after the issues with Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft went back to the Windows 2000 code base to develop Windows 7 so that the mistakes made with XP and Vista could be avoided. I dislike Windows 8's UI so much I am staying at Windows 7 until Microsoft either fixes Windows 8 or provides another operating system that makes it easy to switch between multiple applications that are all running simultaneously, just like previous versions of Windows. I am hopeful that the Windows 8.1 update on April 8 will fix this. When, on Ubuntu Linux 12.x, the UI was changed to use the "Unity" by default to support both tablets and desktop system, there were complaints from desktop developers about the new UI. I guess Microsoft developers missed that. I also wish they had read "User Interface Design For Programmers" by Joel Spolsky. This book is like a Cliff's notes version of a UI textbook. An understanding of the book's contents would have avoided lots of the issues with Windows 8. In any event, I don't doubt whatever network issue you're referring to exists. I do wonder what specific issue you're having. There can be more setup for Windows Vista and 7 than XP, because specific security settings have to be bypassed. I don't know if that applies to your situation or not.
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Ron Anders wrote:
XP is leaner meaner and more responsive than 7.
That has not been my experience. Windows XP would often freeze up for me. And, while Windows XP had much better performance than Windows Vista, I found that both XP and Vista had worse performance than Windows 7. And, I measure performance. By the way, I either read, or was told, that after the issues with Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft went back to the Windows 2000 code base to develop Windows 7 so that the mistakes made with XP and Vista could be avoided. I dislike Windows 8's UI so much I am staying at Windows 7 until Microsoft either fixes Windows 8 or provides another operating system that makes it easy to switch between multiple applications that are all running simultaneously, just like previous versions of Windows. I am hopeful that the Windows 8.1 update on April 8 will fix this. When, on Ubuntu Linux 12.x, the UI was changed to use the "Unity" by default to support both tablets and desktop system, there were complaints from desktop developers about the new UI. I guess Microsoft developers missed that. I also wish they had read "User Interface Design For Programmers" by Joel Spolsky. This book is like a Cliff's notes version of a UI textbook. An understanding of the book's contents would have avoided lots of the issues with Windows 8. In any event, I don't doubt whatever network issue you're referring to exists. I do wonder what specific issue you're having. There can be more setup for Windows Vista and 7 than XP, because specific security settings have to be bypassed. I don't know if that applies to your situation or not.
Bill_Hallahan wrote:
By the way, I either read, or was told, that after the issues with Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft went back to the Windows 2000 code base to develop Windows 7 so that the mistakes made with XP and Vista could be avoided.
That's not been the case. They couldn't have done such a thing as the changes to the operating system between Windows 2000/XP and Vista were too enourmous and fundamental, and Windows 7/8/8.1 pretty much build on the foundation that was formed with Vista. The only time they changed the codebase and literally "reset" development was during the Longhorn project: They started building it on the Windows XP codebase, and when it eventually went off track, they restarted on the Windows Server 2003 SP1 codebase and gradually added and refined key parts from the "broken" trunk. I'm using Windows 8.1 on all my machines now (it's actually only two). Before that, I was using Windows 7 since it was in beta. According to my experience, they pretty much got the performance issues of Vista solved with Windows 7 and even improved it with Windows 8/8.1. They only reason I see why a Windows XP machine can be faster compared to a Windows 7 machine is the hardware: XP is very likely to beat Windows 7 on XP-class hardware. But as soon as you're using something newer that's not dating back to 2004, there's no noticeable difference.
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Just had yet another run in with computer browsing, and trying to get it working when switching back to a different local network. And its dead. It did work, you switch networks, come back, and its dead even after enabling computer browsing. This used to work on XP and 2k seamlessly. Vista was a disaster, and IMO there is too much of it inside win7 still.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
