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  • C CBadger

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    I rest my case. :-D

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    • M Mike Winiberg

      Exactly. I've had windows insist on restarting when I was just about to use Hauptwerk (simulated pipe organ) for a public performance, and because the windows 8 machine wasn't (and couldn't be) on-line, it locked during the update process and I had to use some crappy keyboard instead. I might be working away in a large project when it decides a restart is required, but - if this happens (and it did only last week) whilst I'm away from my machine talking to a client, instead of waiting for me to come back and say OK, it waits ten minutes and does it anyway. I always have my stuff set-up to autosave, so no work itself is lost, but it doesn't half waste some time (especially when the client has come along to view progress) whilst I re-open and re-initialise all the underlying VMs etc that got shutdown in the reboot! I notice that there are never unattended manadatory boots on the server OSs - if it's not important enough to force a mandatory, unstoppable reboot on Server 2012, why is it so important that my work has to be damaged or interrupted on a desktop OS - why couldn't a persistent reminder be used instead?

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      Yep, just when you're doing that all-important pitch presentation, $%^^&%$$ Windows decides to update :)

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        I rest my case. :-D

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          When Restart Manager[^] was introduced, MS claimed it would reduce the number of restarts required when updates were applied. Well, I haven't noticed any decrease in the number of times I have to restart after applying updates! It's so annoying..... Thank you.

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          Super Lloyd
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          I can't remember last time I rebooted! ^^ Not even at night, just go to sleep.... Maybe this is Windows 8 effect?

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          • S Super Lloyd

            I can't remember last time I rebooted! ^^ Not even at night, just go to sleep.... Maybe this is Windows 8 effect?

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            rnbergren
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            oh the horror, Suffice it to say every computer will need rebooted once in awhile. I love the Apple iPhonantics who say their phone never needs rebooted and then a day later or I have to reboot. I have one of those phancy iOS devices it gets itself rebooted about once a month on lite usage. My android Note2 yeppers it gets rebooted at least once a week. I use it constantly. My Linux server at home? once in a great while. but then again it isn't used much. My work Windows 7 butt kicker I use for 10 hours a day hard. Once a week. My personal windows 8 surface pro2. once every other week or so. again lightly used but more than the iOS device. so suffice it to say I believe that depending upon usage you probably reboot any operating system depending upon usage at about the same rate. All of my machines have rebooted at very improper times. The only good thing I see about this is Windows at least gives me the option of saying. "Notify me but don't download and don't apply until I tell you too". Seriously any half serious computer geek should always get this option and take it. my Note doesn't allow this. My iPad just about doesn't on occasion. Sooo, for that reason alone I do prefer the windows machine. But seriously they all kind of suck at this.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              I'd reboot anyway. :shrug:

              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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              Lost User
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              Making up for all the reboots you didn't have to do after patching/upgrading VMS? ;P :laugh:

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                I'd reboot anyway. :shrug:

                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                Making up for all the reboots you missed patching/upgrading VMS? ;P :laugh:

                You can go sleep at home tonight if you can get up and walk away

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                • L Lost User

                  Making up for all the reboots you didn't have to do after patching/upgrading VMS? ;P :laugh:

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                  Patches for VMS? What? :confused:

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    Patches for VMS? What? :confused:

                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                    Lost User
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                    :doh: What was I thinking :laugh: Started w/VMS 2.2

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                    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                      When Restart Manager[^] was introduced, MS claimed it would reduce the number of restarts required when updates were applied. Well, I haven't noticed any decrease in the number of times I have to restart after applying updates! It's so annoying..... Thank you.

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      There seemed to be a noticeable reduction in the number of restarts required when it first came out, but that then seemed to climb again. Maybe it's the nature of the bugs being found and fixed...

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                        :doh: What was I thinking :laugh: Started w/VMS 2.2

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                        The first operating system I used was RSTS/E, in high school. I don't recall what versions of VMS I used in college. My first development job was with VMS 5.0.

                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Is a reboot every now and again really that painful?

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                          obermd
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                          Some people seem to think so. Personally I reboot my workstation daily. Servers on the other hand I don't like to reboot.

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                          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                            When Restart Manager[^] was introduced, MS claimed it would reduce the number of restarts required when updates were applied. Well, I haven't noticed any decrease in the number of times I have to restart after applying updates! It's so annoying..... Thank you.

                            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                            Stefan_Lang
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                            The premise in the article you linked may be correct in that files that need updates may be in use. But the solution is wrong! It's about time Program patch managers learned the decades-old lessons from graphics programming and animation: use double buffering! I. e. install a shadow copy of the patched program in the background and just switch to it whenever the time is 'right' - i. e. 'right' for the user!

                            GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto) Point in case: http://www.infoq.com/news/2014/02/apple_gotofail_lessons[^]

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