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    Marc Clifton
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    so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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      so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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      I dunno - typical Christians, trying to bring religion into Easter! :laugh: Happy Chocolate Egg Day! ;)

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        I dunno - typical Christians, trying to bring religion into Easter! :laugh: Happy Chocolate Egg Day! ;)

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        typical Christians, trying to bring religion into Easter Passover!

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          typical Christians, trying to bring religion into Easter Passover!

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          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

          typical Christians, trying to bring religion into Easter Passover celebrations of fertility and spring!

          ;)

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            so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Which there reveals the gods' creating:

            Interesting possessive apostrophe indicates older, pagan roots. Steiner must have been a smart man to work that in so cleverly. Unless it is a translation error... Nah, couldn't be an error... :rolleyes:

            My website :: My book revealing the forgotten astronomy of our ancestors.

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              so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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              Happy Easter Marc

              Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Which there reveals the gods' creating:

                Interesting possessive apostrophe indicates older, pagan roots. Steiner must have been a smart man to work that in so cleverly. Unless it is a translation error... Nah, couldn't be an error... :rolleyes:

                My website :: My book revealing the forgotten astronomy of our ancestors.

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                David ONeil
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                (For more of those interesting pagan roots, read p. 78 & 79 of The Hibbert Lectures[^]. That the Hebrew authors were aware of the sacrifice of sons is reflected in Micah 6:7[^]. So 'Jesus' being sacrificed has a precedent, and isn't as original as everyone thinks. In spite of these facts, I hope you have a happy Easter! Religious ideas were always meant to make the world better! I support that goal entirely.)

                My website :: My book revealing the forgotten astronomy of our ancestors.

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                  so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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                  Happy Easter Marc!

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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                    Don't get hung up over Easter.

                    We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc.

                      You are forgiven.

                      “I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc.

                        You are forgiven [1]. [1] This specific act of forgiveness by the party of the second part is good for this one (only) specific act of violation by the party of the first part: it is not granted as a plenary indulgence retroactively effective for outstanding previous violations; nor is it granted for any future violations by the party of the second part. Construal of this act of forgiveness as being a comment of any type, positive or negative, on any of the world's organized religions is strictly the responsibility of the forgivee, and the second party granting this forgiveness asserts this offer is proclaimed without malice or intent to criticize said world religions. Local laws and regulations may apply. This offer may be void in your state.

                        “I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc. :) In the early 1900's Rudolf Steiner wrote a series of verses for each week. Here's the Easter week one (one translation) In light, which out of Spirit depth In space fruit-bear weaving, Which there reveals the gods' creating: The essence of the soul appears Expanded to the universe And resurrected From narrow selfhood's inner might. Happy Easter! Marc

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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc.

                          You are forgiven [1]. [1] This specific act of forgiveness by the party of the second part is good for this one (only) specific act of violation by the party of the first part: it is not granted as a plenary indulgence retroactively effective for outstanding previous violations; nor is it granted, ante bellum, for any future violations by the party of the first part. Construal of this act of forgiveness as being a comment of any type, positive or negative, on any of the world's organized religions, humanist and trans-humanist philosophies, cults, etc., is strictly the responsibility of the forgivee, and the second party granting this forgiveness asserts this offer is proclaimed without malice or intent to criticize said collectivities. Local laws and regulations may apply. This offer may be void in your state.

                          “I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges

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                            Don't get hung up over Easter.

                            We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                            Roger Wright
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                            That's really, really bad... ;P

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc.

                              You are forgiven [1]. [1] This specific act of forgiveness by the party of the second part is good for this one (only) specific act of violation by the party of the first part: it is not granted as a plenary indulgence retroactively effective for outstanding previous violations; nor is it granted, ante bellum, for any future violations by the party of the first part. Construal of this act of forgiveness as being a comment of any type, positive or negative, on any of the world's organized religions, humanist and trans-humanist philosophies, cults, etc., is strictly the responsibility of the forgivee, and the second party granting this forgiveness asserts this offer is proclaimed without malice or intent to criticize said collectivities. Local laws and regulations may apply. This offer may be void in your state.

                              “I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges

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                              I'm pretty sure that consulting an attorney on Easter, or even socializing with one, is one of the original 8 cardinal sins.

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                                That's really, really bad... ;P

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                I think it's really really good - can't claim the credit though, Leon Russell said it on the "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" tour.

                                We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                  That's really, really bad... ;P

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  Not as bad as this: Kevin Bl**dy Wilson: Don't be a Bunny This Easter[^] - YouTube, NSFW!

                                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    so forgive me for a complete violation of your personal beliefs, convictions, etc.

                                    You are forgiven [1]. [1] This specific act of forgiveness by the party of the second part is good for this one (only) specific act of violation by the party of the first part: it is not granted as a plenary indulgence retroactively effective for outstanding previous violations; nor is it granted, ante bellum, for any future violations by the party of the first part. Construal of this act of forgiveness as being a comment of any type, positive or negative, on any of the world's organized religions, humanist and trans-humanist philosophies, cults, etc., is strictly the responsibility of the forgivee, and the second party granting this forgiveness asserts this offer is proclaimed without malice or intent to criticize said collectivities. Local laws and regulations may apply. This offer may be void in your state.

                                    “I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges

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                                    It is impossible to vote on the mobile version of CP and is usually not worth the trouble of switching to the full site just to vote. This is one occasion where the trouble is justified.

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                                      (For more of those interesting pagan roots, read p. 78 & 79 of The Hibbert Lectures[^]. That the Hebrew authors were aware of the sacrifice of sons is reflected in Micah 6:7[^]. So 'Jesus' being sacrificed has a precedent, and isn't as original as everyone thinks. In spite of these facts, I hope you have a happy Easter! Religious ideas were always meant to make the world better! I support that goal entirely.)

                                      My website :: My book revealing the forgotten astronomy of our ancestors.

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      David O'Neil wrote:

                                      So 'Jesus' being sacrificed has a precedent, and isn't as original as everyone thinks. In spite of these facts,

                                      The entire Christ story -- virgin birth, crucifixion, resurrection, son of God, etc., is repeated numerous times in pre-Christian mythologies dating back thousands of years. One of the biggest claims against Christianity is in fact that it is a copycat of earlier pagan lore. Marc

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                                        David O'Neil wrote:

                                        So 'Jesus' being sacrificed has a precedent, and isn't as original as everyone thinks. In spite of these facts,

                                        The entire Christ story -- virgin birth, crucifixion, resurrection, son of God, etc., is repeated numerous times in pre-Christian mythologies dating back thousands of years. One of the biggest claims against Christianity is in fact that it is a copycat of earlier pagan lore. Marc

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                                        You probably know that most of the claims are groundless, and based on bad scholarship about 150 years ago by a man who felt like ripping Christianity apart[^]. The example I give in my book is he said Mithras was born from a Virgin, yet in the myth he sprung forth fully formed from a rock! Unfortunately Bill Maher - and others - repeat the claims without going into them in depth and seeing the falseness at their heart. Going to some of the original myths I concluded that Christianity isn't as derivative as many say it is, although it does contain some older roots like the 'sacrificial' one I pointed out. That was never brought to my attention during my religious turbulence, and is something I stumbled on in my own studies. Although I am no longer religious in the usual sense I hold a deep respect for Christianity (and other religions). Religious thinking molded everyones' consciousness (including atheists) in ways we don't even think about. I hope my work helps us comprehend some of those things that have been forgotten till now. Best wishes, David

                                        My website :: My book revealing the forgotten astronomy of our ancestors.

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