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Zero privacy in healthcare.gov. It's in the source code.

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    enhzflep
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    I just saw a short video segment of the House of Representatives hearing into concerns for the privacy healthcare.gov In it, there's a comment in the code that states that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy - a statement that is in direct contravention of HIPA. A representative of the contractor has admitted knowledge of its inclusion in the source, yet claims that the responsibility for it lies elsewhere, which it may or may not in a legal sense. But my question is: If the programmer that inserted it knew it was at odds to HIPA, should they also themselves be held to account?

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    • enhzflepE enhzflep

      I just saw a short video segment of the House of Representatives hearing into concerns for the privacy healthcare.gov In it, there's a comment in the code that states that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy - a statement that is in direct contravention of HIPA. A representative of the contractor has admitted knowledge of its inclusion in the source, yet claims that the responsibility for it lies elsewhere, which it may or may not in a legal sense. But my question is: If the programmer that inserted it knew it was at odds to HIPA, should they also themselves be held to account?

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      Brisingr Aerowing
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      I think the company that did healthcare.gov should be held accountable for this entire mess.

      What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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      • enhzflepE enhzflep

        I just saw a short video segment of the House of Representatives hearing into concerns for the privacy healthcare.gov In it, there's a comment in the code that states that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy - a statement that is in direct contravention of HIPA. A representative of the contractor has admitted knowledge of its inclusion in the source, yet claims that the responsibility for it lies elsewhere, which it may or may not in a legal sense. But my question is: If the programmer that inserted it knew it was at odds to HIPA, should they also themselves be held to account?

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        enhzflep wrote:

        should they also themselves be held to account

        This, taken to extremes, leads to the Nuremberg trials. Should a grunt (programmer) be responsible for executing decisions taken by his superiors (managers/designer/business).

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          enhzflep wrote:

          should they also themselves be held to account

          This, taken to extremes, leads to the Nuremberg trials. Should a grunt (programmer) be responsible for executing decisions taken by his superiors (managers/designer/business).

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          enhzflep
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          Indeed, that was precisely the comparison I'd hoped to elicit in people's mind. There's no threat of death to the public or the employees concerned, which in my mind, makes it a question of morals.

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            Indeed, that was precisely the comparison I'd hoped to elicit in people's mind. There's no threat of death to the public or the employees concerned, which in my mind, makes it a question of morals.

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Personally I think the programmer has done precisely the correct thing, implemented the requirement and left a comment pointing out it's inadequacies. I know I would sack a programmer that refused to implement such a requirement bit I would expect the comment to appear in the doco and kudos to the programmer. I would also want the guy to be a little more explicit about the details as to why the requirement is inadequate, I know simply saying it does not work annoys the shit out of me I imagine it does those further up the food chain.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • enhzflepE enhzflep

              I just saw a short video segment of the House of Representatives hearing into concerns for the privacy healthcare.gov In it, there's a comment in the code that states that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy - a statement that is in direct contravention of HIPA. A representative of the contractor has admitted knowledge of its inclusion in the source, yet claims that the responsibility for it lies elsewhere, which it may or may not in a legal sense. But my question is: If the programmer that inserted it knew it was at odds to HIPA, should they also themselves be held to account?

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              Lost User
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              Why is it even a big deal? It's a comment, comments have no semantics.

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                Personally I think the programmer has done precisely the correct thing, implemented the requirement and left a comment pointing out it's inadequacies. I know I would sack a programmer that refused to implement such a requirement bit I would expect the comment to appear in the doco and kudos to the programmer. I would also want the guy to be a little more explicit about the details as to why the requirement is inadequate, I know simply saying it does not work annoys the shit out of me I imagine it does those further up the food chain.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                RTek23
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                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                Personally I think the programmer has done precisely the correct thing

                That was my take on it as well. Kudo's to the programmer for recognizing the situation and doing what they can to expose it. After all, the Gov't is still trying to gut the last big whistle blower.... Ken

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                • enhzflepE enhzflep

                  I just saw a short video segment of the House of Representatives hearing into concerns for the privacy healthcare.gov In it, there's a comment in the code that states that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy - a statement that is in direct contravention of HIPA. A representative of the contractor has admitted knowledge of its inclusion in the source, yet claims that the responsibility for it lies elsewhere, which it may or may not in a legal sense. But my question is: If the programmer that inserted it knew it was at odds to HIPA, should they also themselves be held to account?

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                  Corporal Agarn
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                  It is the government. They can do whatever they want. Look at the IRS giving bonuses to employees that own the IRS.

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